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Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:48 am

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:55 am

My mistake.

Kirk Cousins is a fountain of charisma. He has a magnetism that just draws people in. When people think of toughness, courage, moxie, it is the face of Kirk Cousins that leaps to the mind's eye. You can tell in the way he interacts with the media that he is loose, natural comfortable in his own skin. He's got the kind of people skills that just scream 'natural born leader'.

On the field, his composure under pressure is inspiring. Whether spiking it or downing it, sliding short of the sticks or past them, facing pressure up the middle and throwing the ball forward or backward, he is always cool as a cucumber.

If you're not going to post something to actually discuss and just continue this childish sarcasm, please spare us all.

Post with sincerity and I'm trolling, post with sarcasm and I'm childish. It's almost like you just dont like my perspective but rather than address it or ignore, want to criticize me and shut me up. That's informative.

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:58 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:48 am

If you're not going to post something to actually discuss and just continue this childish sarcasm, please spare us all.

Post with sincerity and I'm trolling, post with sarcasm and I'm childish. It's almost like you just dont like my perspective but rather than address it or ignore, want to criticize me and shut me up. That's informative.

I wasnt addressing those as two separate posts. Both posts are childish and you're simply trolling. It has nothing to do with me liking your perspective or not. It's just senseless posting with zero backing where you're trying to get a rise out of people. If you want to have a meaningful discussion, have one. But I ask, if you're going to post senseless garbage like this, please spare us all. Simple as that.

JJBreaksRecords wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:07 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:48 am

If you're not going to post something to actually discuss and just continue this childish sarcasm, please spare us all.

Cant he write what he wants? I think he is dead on, just like I think the Cousins people are dead wrong. We have had a lot of time to see kirk, to see if he can flourish in the face of adversity, help win the close games enough so we can at least go to the playoffs, to be a leader, to rally the troops, etc. I havent seen that. I think I remember some posts later last season you wearnt real excited with kirk either. A lot of people wearnt. And check into just how team friendly his last contract really is.

This is what I'm referring to....

Kirk Cousins is a fountain of charisma. He has a magnetism that just draws people in. When people think of toughness, courage, moxie, it is the face of Kirk Cousins that leaps to the mind's eye. You can tell in the way he interacts with the media that he is loose, natural comfortable in his own skin. He's got the kind of people skills that just scream 'natural born leader'.

Sure there were times last year where I didnt think he was playing great. I can say the same about most QBs in the NFL. The close games is not a true tell or accurate if you ask me. When you look at the close games we had this year, was the problem really Kirk Cousins? I dont see that as being the problem at all. Our defense was historically bad in the final two minutes of games. Choking multiple times. Kirk gave us the go ahead lead or put us in position to win in multiple games. The fact that other factors blew that multiple times, is not on Kirk. I'm not saying that was the only problem all year, but most people were saying how well Cousins was playing most of the year and saying Zimmer and the defense were terrible and then we dont make the playoffs, zimmer is fired and now everyone is going sour on Cousins (or even more sour for that matter).

He has his limitations, but I truly want to see him under an modern offensive minded head coach. Not a dinosaur that builds his team around running the ball and playing good defense. If Cousins has a down season the next two years, I will criticize then, but I want to see him under O'Connell.

JJBreaksRecords wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:07 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:48 am

If you're not going to post something to actually discuss and just continue this childish sarcasm, please spare us all.

Cant he write what he wants? I think he is dead on, just like I think the Cousins people are dead wrong. We have had a lot of time to see kirk, to see if he can flourish in the face of adversity, help win the close games enough so we can at least go to the playoffs, to be a leader, to rally the troops, etc. I havent seen that. I think I remember some posts later last season you wearnt real excited with kirk either. A lot of people wearnt. And check into just how team friendly his last contract really is.

What do you call team friendly QB deal. Give an example. Tribisky just signed with the Steelers could make 27 million if he hits all incentives. The balls in his court. If he plays well he'll make a ton. And he sucks. A backup. You act like QBs are free. Kirk has had bad games. Every player on this team has had bad games. It's part of playing sports. Flourish in the face of adversity. What does that even mean. Help win the close games? He has never done that. Look it up. One example we hit the road to AZ this year he leads us for the win and our FG can't make an easy one. That's Kirk's fault? Nobody else needs to help? He lead us with 22 4th qtr points against Green Bay to tie the game. Our FG kicker missed 2 OT FGs. Kirk's fault. We beat GB this year with Kirk. Our D sucked but he pulled it out of adversity. Fans always get excited and unexcited about players. How many are excited by Hunters contributions the last 2 seasons? Nobody. He's a great player. Some Packers fans think Rodgers should get the boot because he's a loser. It always works that way. You're like other who claim we can't sign anybody with his contract. Hello. That's wrong also. Look it up. We sign our own good players. Look it up. Plus we overpay like H Smith who isn't close to what he was. Tell me how many top players left our team because we were broke?

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:55 am

Frozen Rope wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:28 am

Just stop before you lose the little thread of credibility you have left. You have no idea of what you are talking about to make an absurd comment like that. You couldn’t be further from the truth

My mistake.

Kirk Cousins is a fountain of charisma. He has a magnetism that just draws people in. When people think of toughness, courage, moxie, it is the face of Kirk Cousins that leaps to the mind's eye. You can tell in the way he interacts with the media that he is loose, natural comfortable in his own skin. He's got the kind of people skills that just scream 'natural born leader'.

On the field, his composure under pressure is inspiring. Whether spiking it or downing it, sliding short of the sticks or past them, facing pressure up the middle and throwing the ball forward or backward, he is always cool as a cucumber.

Excellent post. You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

JJBreaksRecords wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:07 am

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:48 am

If you're not going to post something to actually discuss and just continue this childish sarcasm, please spare us all.

Cant he write what he wants? I think he is dead on, just like I think the Cousins people are dead wrong. We have had a lot of time to see kirk, to see if he can flourish in the face of adversity, help win the close games enough so we can at least go to the playoffs, to be a leader, to rally the troops, etc. I havent seen that. I think I remember some posts later last season you wearnt real excited with kirk either. A lot of people wearnt. And check into just how team friendly his last contract really is.

In the first half of last season Cousins led so many game tying or game leading drives in the last minutes or OT it was downright astounding.

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:09 am

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:58 am

Post with sincerity and I'm trolling, post with sarcasm and I'm childish. It's almost like you just dont like my perspective but rather than address it or ignore, want to criticize me and shut me up. That's informative.

I wasnt addressing those as two separate posts. Both posts are childish and you're simply trolling. It has nothing to do with me liking your perspective or not. It's just senseless posting with zero backing where you're trying to get a rise out of people. If you want to have a meaningful discussion, have one. But I ask, if you're going to post senseless garbage like this, please spare us all. Simple as that.

If you think your post about a bunch of horse **** stats are informative and "backed up" with evidence, good for you. I can respond to them by ignoring the rationalizations and statistics and point to the obvious. Kirk Cousins is a stiff. Good day.

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:15 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:09 am

I wasnt addressing those as two separate posts. Both posts are childish and you're simply trolling. It has nothing to do with me liking your perspective or not. It's just senseless posting with zero backing where you're trying to get a rise out of people. If you want to have a meaningful discussion, have one. But I ask, if you're going to post senseless garbage like this, please spare us all. Simple as that.

If you think your post about a bunch of horse **** stats are informative and "backed up" with evidence, good for you. I can respond to them by ignoring the rationalizations and statistics and point to the obvious. Kirk Cousins is a stiff. Good day.

I mean yeah, statistics are actual facts so yeah I've provided plenty that is backed up ..... But you saying "Kirk is a stiff" and throwing in a bunch of sarcasm literally provides nothing other than you just trolling. I mean I'm not sure how much longer the crying is going to continue that Kirk got an extension? Like move on or actually provide some meaningful talking points .... Good day

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:40 pm

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:15 pm

If you think your post about a bunch of horse **** stats are informative and "backed up" with evidence, good for you. I can respond to them by ignoring the rationalizations and statistics and point to the obvious. Kirk Cousins is a stiff. Good day.

I mean yeah, statistics are actual facts so yeah I've provided plenty that is backed up ..... But you saying "Kirk is a stiff" and throwing in a bunch of sarcasm literally provides nothing other than you just trolling. I mean I'm not sure how much longer the crying is going to continue that Kirk got an extension? Like move on or actually provide some meaningful talking points .... Good day

Ah yes....'backed up'. And backed up with 'actual stats'. Who can withstand such mighty analysis, such meandering and pointless metrics?! Clearly my childish, trollish opinions are no match. Alas, were it not for the fact that Kirk Cousins is a stiff, I might begin to doubt myself in the face of such evidence. But my eyes and ears do not deceive me, and I am hearted to know that I do not stand alone in ignorance against that torrential onslaught that is ...... PHP!

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:40 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:40 pm

I mean yeah, statistics are actual facts so yeah I've provided plenty that is backed up ..... But you saying "Kirk is a stiff" and throwing in a bunch of sarcasm literally provides nothing other than you just trolling. I mean I'm not sure how much longer the crying is going to continue that Kirk got an extension? Like move on or actually provide some meaningful talking points .... Good day

Ah yes....'backed up'. And backed up with 'actual stats'. Who can withstand such mighty analysis, such meandering and pointless metrics?! Clearly my childish, trollish opinions are no match. Alas, were it not for the fact that Kirk Cousins is a stiff, I might begin to doubt myself in the face of such evidence. But my eyes and ears do not deceive me, and I am hearted to know that I do not stand alone in ignorance against that torrential onslaught that is ...... PHP!

I think I’m more upset that I just wasted 10 seconds of my life reading that

If we have to trade Hunter because we can’t afford him. Then why extend Cousins?
Should of just reloaded.
I think that Kwesi underestimated the Hunter signing.

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:55 am

Frozen Rope wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:28 am

Just stop before you lose the little thread of credibility you have left. You have no idea of what you are talking about to make an absurd comment like that. You couldn’t be further from the truth

My mistake.

Kirk Cousins is a fountain of charisma. He has a magnetism that just draws people in. When people think of toughness, courage, moxie, it is the face of Kirk Cousins that leaps to the mind's eye. You can tell in the way he interacts with the media that he is loose, natural comfortable in his own skin. He's got the kind of people skills that just scream 'natural born leader'.

On the field, his composure under pressure is inspiring. Whether spiking it or downing it, sliding short of the sticks or past them, facing pressure up the middle and throwing the ball forward or backward, he is always cool as a cucumber.

So Cam Newton is the guy. He's a walking billboard. Always has some slogan to make some extra money. Last year it was the "I'm Back" mantra looking for a few dollars and publicity. IMO who cares if you are back. Play some football and be back for good. Problem is he's a gimmick player. He'll sign with any team. Doesn't care if they are a winner or a loser. But it's a paycheck and he can chant another mantra I'm Back Again for Good or some other BS. Is that what will draw you? Or do you like Kirk's "Take That" better? I don't even know what you mean by toughness. The guy plays game in and game out. Does that show nothing? His ribs where F upped last year and he still played. He didn't wuss out and ribs trying to throw isn't easy. So call him a wuss and has zero toughness. I don't think that's the case. He plays the game when the whistle blows. If you think any of these players aren't tough I think your wrong. They all takes shots and have been doing it since pee wee. The people who lack toughness never make it to the top of this sport. When he was a backup he said the following.
Kirk Cousins, backup quarterback for the Washington Redskins, said he would welcome an openly gay teammate and try and lead him to Jesus, saying, "nobody's perfect."
That's about as loose as you can be. IMO it was to loose.

CharVike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:37 am

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:55 am

My mistake.

Kirk Cousins is a fountain of charisma. He has a magnetism that just draws people in. When people think of toughness, courage, moxie, it is the face of Kirk Cousins that leaps to the mind's eye. You can tell in the way he interacts with the media that he is loose, natural comfortable in his own skin. He's got the kind of people skills that just scream 'natural born leader'.

On the field, his composure under pressure is inspiring. Whether spiking it or downing it, sliding short of the sticks or past them, facing pressure up the middle and throwing the ball forward or backward, he is always cool as a cucumber.

So Cam Newton is the guy. He's a walking billboard. Always has some slogan to make some extra money. Last year it was the "I'm Back" mantra looking for a few dollars and publicity. IMO who cares if you are back. Play some football and be back for good. Problem is he's a gimmick player. He'll sign with any team. Doesn't care if they are a winner or a loser. But it's a paycheck and he can chant another mantra I'm Back Again for Good or some other BS. Is that what will draw you? Or do you like Kirk's "Take That" better? I don't even know what you mean by toughness. The guy plays game in and game out. Does that show nothing? His ribs where F upped last year and he still played. He didn't wuss out and ribs trying to throw isn't easy. So call him a wuss and has zero toughness. I don't think that's the case. He plays the game when the whistle blows. If you think any of these players aren't tough I think your wrong. They all takes shots and have been doing it since pee wee. The people who lack toughness never make it to the top of this sport. When he was a backup he said the following.
Kirk Cousins, backup quarterback for the Washington Redskins, said he would welcome an openly gay teammate and try and lead him to Jesus, saying, "nobody's perfect."
That's about as loose as you can be. IMO it was to loose.

Yes! Absolutely. I love Cam Newton. That's exactly what I'm talking about! I bet he would accept gay teammates too!

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:15 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:09 am

I wasnt addressing those as two separate posts. Both posts are childish and you're simply trolling. It has nothing to do with me liking your perspective or not. It's just senseless posting with zero backing where you're trying to get a rise out of people. If you want to have a meaningful discussion, have one. But I ask, if you're going to post senseless garbage like this, please spare us all. Simple as that.

If you think your post about a bunch of horse **** stats are informative and "backed up" with evidence, good for you. I can respond to them by ignoring the rationalizations and statistics and point to the obvious. Kirk Cousins is a stiff. Good day.

Not obvious in any way.

CharVike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:37 am

fiestavike wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:55 am

My mistake.

Kirk Cousins is a fountain of charisma. He has a magnetism that just draws people in. When people think of toughness, courage, moxie, it is the face of Kirk Cousins that leaps to the mind's eye. You can tell in the way he interacts with the media that he is loose, natural comfortable in his own skin. He's got the kind of people skills that just scream 'natural born leader'.

On the field, his composure under pressure is inspiring. Whether spiking it or downing it, sliding short of the sticks or past them, facing pressure up the middle and throwing the ball forward or backward, he is always cool as a cucumber.

So Cam Newton is the guy. He's a walking billboard. Always has some slogan to make some extra money. Last year it was the "I'm Back" mantra looking for a few dollars and publicity. IMO who cares if you are back. Play some football and be back for good. Problem is he's a gimmick player. He'll sign with any team. Doesn't care if they are a winner or a loser. But it's a paycheck and he can chant another mantra I'm Back Again for Good or some other BS. Is that what will draw you? Or do you like Kirk's "Take That" better? I don't even know what you mean by toughness. The guy plays game in and game out. Does that show nothing? His ribs where F upped last year and he still played. He didn't wuss out and ribs trying to throw isn't easy. So call him a wuss and has zero toughness. I don't think that's the case. He plays the game when the whistle blows. If you think any of these players aren't tough I think your wrong. They all takes shots and have been doing it since pee wee. The people who lack toughness never make it to the top of this sport. When he was a backup he said the following.
Kirk Cousins, backup quarterback for the Washington Redskins, said he would welcome an openly gay teammate and try and lead him to Jesus, saying, "nobody's perfect."
That's about as loose as you can be. IMO it was to loose.

Kirk is tough as nails. I don't see how anybody wouldn't see that.