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Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:47 am
by Pondering Her Percy
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:41 am
The point is, that all the arguments, rationalizations and statistics being bandied about don't change the simple fact that Kirk Cousins is a stiff.
Ok good analysis
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:46 pm
by CharVike
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:41 am
The point is, that all the arguments, rationalizations and statistics being bandied about don't change the simple fact that Kirk Cousins is a stiff.
Based on that in his next stop he'll be a backup making nothing. Well see.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:43 pm
by fiestavike
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:47 am
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:41 am
The point is, that all the arguments, rationalizations and statistics being bandied about don't change the simple fact that Kirk Cousins is a stiff.
Ok good analysis
Thanks!
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:44 pm
by fiestavike
CharVike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:46 pm
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:41 am
The point is, that all the arguments, rationalizations and statistics being bandied about don't change the simple fact that Kirk Cousins is a stiff.
Based on that in his next stop he'll be a backup making nothing. Well see.
I wouldn't say that. I think a team will give up 1st round pick(s) for him and he will be starting. He brings what he brings, which is some good and some bad, but the bad ultimately stems from the fact that he is a stiff. Nobody wants to follow a panicky Ned Flanders into battle.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:03 pm
by CharVike
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:44 pm
CharVike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:46 pm
Based on that in his next stop he'll be a backup making nothing. Well see.
I wouldn't say that. I think a team will give up 1st round pick(s) for him and he will be starting. He brings what he brings, which is some good and some bad, but the bad ultimately stems from the fact that he is a stiff. Nobody wants to follow a panicky Ned Flanders into battle.
Do players follow Dak into battle. Good teams beat them. They lose in the playoffs and they only make the playoffs because of that division. That's a 40 million stiff. Watson won 4 games his last season starting. Nobody followed him either. Maybe the team sucked? Or they knew he was about to have all these civil cases filed. People talk about things to each other and players spend alot of time together. I'm sure plenty knew but nobody was going to talk about it.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:58 am
by fiestavike
CharVike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:03 pm
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:44 pm
I wouldn't say that. I think a team will give up 1st round pick(s) for him and he will be starting. He brings what he brings, which is some good and some bad, but the bad ultimately stems from the fact that he is a stiff. Nobody wants to follow a panicky Ned Flanders into battle.
Do players follow Dak into battle. Good teams beat them. They lose in the playoffs and they only make the playoffs because of that division. That's a 40 million stiff. Watson won 4 games his last season starting. Nobody followed him either. Maybe the team sucked? Or they knew he was about to have all these civil cases filed. People talk about things to each other and players spend alot of time together. I'm sure plenty knew but nobody was going to talk about it.
I'm not sure what you are talking about as pertains to my point, but I think you are conflating various opinions into a strawman.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:26 pm
by VikingsVictorious
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:58 am
CharVike wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:03 pm
Do players follow Dak into battle. Good teams beat them. They lose in the playoffs and they only make the playoffs because of that division. That's a 40 million stiff. Watson won 4 games his last season starting. Nobody followed him either. Maybe the team sucked? Or they knew he was about to have all these civil cases filed. People talk about things to each other and players spend alot of time together. I'm sure plenty knew but nobody was going to talk about it.
I'm not sure what you are talking about as pertains to my point, but I think you are conflating various opinions into a strawman.
The Simple fact is Cousins is a top 10 QB in the world. Those don't grow on trees.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:54 pm
by Frozen Rope
VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:26 pm
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:58 am
I'm not sure what you are talking about as pertains to my point, but I think you are conflating various opinions into a strawman.
The Simple fact is Cousins is a top 10 QB in the world. Those don't grow on trees.
He just signed a 1 year extension. News will be out shortly
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:22 pm
by CharVike
VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:26 pm
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:58 am
I'm not sure what you are talking about as pertains to my point, but I think you are conflating various opinions into a strawman.
The Simple fact is Cousins is a top 10 QB in the world. Those don't grow on trees.
Thanks for your help. You explained it better than me. We have a good QB which is something the majority of teams don't have. That gives us an advantage. People want that advantage tossed in the garbage. Yes you can find faults with any player if you want to.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:29 pm
by fiestavike
VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:26 pm
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:58 am
I'm not sure what you are talking about as pertains to my point, but I think you are conflating various opinions into a strawman.
The Simple fact is Cousins is a top 10 QB in the world. Those don't grow on trees.
By whatever your metrics are, perhaps so.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:21 pm
by VikingsVictorious
Frozen Rope wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:54 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:26 pm
The Simple fact is Cousins is a top 10 QB in the world. Those don't grow on trees.
He just signed a 1 year extension. News will be out shortly
I'm almost afraid to see the numbers.

Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:22 pm
by VikingsVictorious
fiestavike wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:29 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:26 pm
The Simple fact is Cousins is a top 10 QB in the world. Those don't grow on trees.
By whatever your metrics are, perhaps so.
Yep.

Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:32 pm
by fiestavike
And yet, Cousins is a stiff.

Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:32 pm
by VikingsVictorious
fiestavike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:32 pm
And yet, Cousins is a stiff.
I don't care if he's a stiff as long as he's one of the 10 best QBs in the world.
Re: Vikings "a good quarterback on a cheaper contract away from being dangerous"
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:40 pm
by JJBreaksRecords
VikingsVictorious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:32 pm
fiestavike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:32 pm
And yet, Cousins is a stiff.
I don't care if he's a stiff as long as he's one of the 10 best QBs in the world.
Ive heard anywhere from the 12th to 14th QB in the NFL. His record against winning teams or in important game to get into the playoffs. Or his choking and being afraid of a rush where hes going to get hit, he's about at 31st. Isnt it fun making things up or just using certain stats and forgetting others. Do you remember or record the past 2 seasons from the one and only cousins? Not too are they. Or when they lose irs the D's fault and when they win its Kirks grit.
