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Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:08 pm
by MrPurplenGold
VikingPaul73 wrote:For you cap experts out there, how much of Carlson's remaining contract is guaranteed?
This Chase Ford looks like a potential cheap replacement!
If I remember correctly the contract was really only a 2 year contract such that if they cut him after this year he wouldn't have a cap hit
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:09 pm
by CalVike
Mothman wrote:
I don't remember but I don't think it's much. He's suffered enough concussions that I can imagine him considering retirement.
I think John Carlson restructured after 2012 to avoid being cut after his terrible year.
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Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:09 pm
by VikingPaul73
Mothman wrote:
I don't remember but I don't think it's much. He's suffered enough concussions that I can imagine him considering retirement.
Good point. I think Ford looks like a decent backup to Rudolph next year.
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:10 pm
by Webbfann
Purple bruise wrote:What's up with Cassel getting so many passes knocked down every game from the line of scrimmage

As mentioned, his passes just seem to come off his hand low and then rise. I noticed that all year.
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:10 pm
by Hunter Morrow
It would be just like the vikings to give up a touchdown and get outcoached in the second half to lose the game.
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:10 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
If it wasn't for Patterson's rushing ability, this would be one boring half.
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:10 pm
by VikingPaul73
S197 wrote:
Someone call up sauce!
LOL, I wonder what Joe Senser and Steve Jordan are up to these days

Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:10 pm
by S197
808vikingsfan wrote:
That plus Cassel has a slow release. Almost like a wind up.
And he stands in the pocket.

Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:11 pm
by Lash Man
S197 wrote:Is Walsh injured? That's two in his range and they punted.
thats Frazier playing not to lose the game instead of to win it , even when its pretty obvious the Kitties aren't really into the game . There is no reason not to attempt those field goals inside the dome in a meaningless game .
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:12 pm
by PotGoblin
actually I was wrong earlier - we could theoretically move up to the number 3 spot. But We have better odds to go undefeated next year and win the SB - we would have to lose and Atlanta, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Oakland, and Tampa Bay would all have to win vs Carolina, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Denver and New Orleans respectively.
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:12 pm
by Eli
PurpleKoolaid wrote:If it wasn't for Patterson's rushing ability, this would be one boring half.
Yeah, these definitely look like a couple of teams that won't be playing after today.
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:13 pm
by Lash Man
I wish JA would have given this effort all season .
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:13 pm
by MrPurplenGold
VikingPaul73 wrote:
Good point. I think Ford looks like a decent backup to Rudolph next year.
John Carlson's five-year, $25 million contract with the Minnesota Vikings could end up being a two-year, $11 million pact, depending how the veteran tight end produces.
According to a source with access to NFL salary data, only $9.1 million of the deal Carlson signed on Wednesday is truly guaranteed -- a $5 million signing bonus, plus Carlson's full $2.9 million base salary in 2012 and $1.2 million of his $2.9 million base salary in 2013.
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/3/16/ ... -year-deal
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:15 pm
by Mothman
CalVike wrote:
I think John Carlson restructured after 2012 to avoid being cut after his terrible year.
Now that you mention it, I think you're right.
Re: Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17
Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:16 pm
by Mothman
Lash Man wrote:
thats Frazier playing not to lose the game instead of to win it , even when its pretty obvious the Kitties aren't really into the game . There is no reason not to attempt those field goals inside the dome in a meaningless game .
He's just playing a field position game and since they have a shutout going, it's not exactly a failing strategy.