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I happen to agree with the Powers article. The Vikes and MN have given AP as much support as one could expect for someone who has been acting like a fool...reckless driving, smokin dope, abusing a kid.....

AP would have a much better life if he talked less.

I wonder if this is our chance to get even with Dallas and a pawn a RB off on THEM for a monster trade ala Herschel Walker redux??

chicagopurple wrote:I happen to agree with the Powers article. The Vikes and MN have given AP as much support as one could expect for someone who has been acting like a fool...reckless driving, smokin dope, abusing a kid.....

AP would have a much better life if he talked less.

I wonder if this is our chance to get even with Dallas and a pawn a RB off on THEM for a monster trade ala Herschel Walker redux??

I am curious, do you think that AP understands that if the Vikings don't get an acceptable offer from a team that he HAS to play with the Vikings or not play at all?

Part of me assumes that all NFL players understand what the contract is but with how insulated all of them are (not just going after AP here) I wonder if he really doesn't get what a "contract" means in this case?

IrishViking wrote: I am curious, do you think that AP understands that if the Vikings don't get an acceptable offer from a team that he HAS to play with the Vikings or not play at all?

Part of me assumes that all NFL players understand what the contract is but with how insulated all of them are (not just going after AP here) I wonder if he really doesn't get what a "contract" means in this case?

He does have options in that situation though. For example, he could still suit up for every game, collect his paycheck, and put in sub-average effort. He doesn't have to just 'play or not', there's some gray in between those options. Now, I don't know if it's in Peterson's DNA to be able to 'phone it in' ... but that's a possibility if he is frustrated with the front office but they won't deal him. Disgruntled players just aren't worth it, in my opinion. Not saying he is one for sure, but if he is, take what you can get for him and move on.

I dont assume AP understands Anything in life.......pass blocking included.

Cliff wrote: He does have options in that situation though. For example, he could still suit up for every game, collect his paycheck, and put in sub-average effort. He doesn't have to just 'play or not', there's some gray in between those options. Now, I don't know if it's in Peterson's DNA to be able to 'phone it in' ... but that's a possibility if he is frustrated with the front office but they won't deal him. Disgruntled players just aren't worth it, in my opinion. Not saying he is one for sure, but if he is, take what you can get for him and move on.

Clearly That's true but in this case I would bank on the "Not in his DNA"and the old adage "winning cures everything". Even is a disgruntled AP suits up next year and phones it in. I don't think he would be able to do so for very long if Teddy showed him we could win. To me that is worth the gamble barring an amazing offer from a team this off season which I doubt and even if it does happen I don't think AP would be fan of it. Like if the offers were say. stay at 15 million and play with the Vikings or take 10-12 million and play with the Browns, raiders, Buffalo. Because I doubt a team that AP wants is going to come out and offer the most draft picks and quality. I think if AP is confronted with the reality of a poor team or the Vikings he'll stay.

IrishViking wrote:I am curious, do you think that AP understands that if the Vikings don't get an acceptable offer from a team that he HAS to play with the Vikings or not play at all?

Part of me assumes that all NFL players understand what the contract is but with how insulated all of them are (not just going after AP here) I wonder if he really doesn't get what a "contract" means in this case?

I have no doubt that he understands what it means to be under contract. However, he probably also understands (and his agent certainly understands) that if he doesn't want to play for the Vikings, he could put them in a very difficult situation and likely force a trade. I doubt it will come to that but it's a possibility.

Tensions rise between Adrian Peterson's agent, Vikings exec in Indy

The decaying relationship between Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson and the organization took a dramatic turn during the combine last week in downtown Indianapolis: Peterson's agent, Ben Dogra, had to be separated from a member of Minnesota's front office during a heated verbal altercation about the former Pro Bowler, according to numerous sources with knowledge of the situation.

According to the sources, Dogra engaged in a heated exchange with Vikings vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski during which the agent made it clear that Peterson would never play there again.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jas ... ec-in-indy

The more closely I pay attention to this situation the more clearly I get Peterson's concern about playing in Minnesota. This seems less about the Vikings and more about the open hostility still being directed at him from lots of different places in the community.

IMO someone in the FO should step up to a guy like Powers publicly and say, 'hey!, lay off our guy. any attack on him is an attack on our organization'.....not because it will cause opinions to cease but because it would show that someone besides his coaches, fans and teammates actually has his back. I know he himself sparked the cause of his main problem....but he and his family have been torn up by this whole thing and it really seems like it's time to mend fences versus cast stones, regardless of where he winds up. Peterson is well within his rights to express concern in that regard. The responses to his comments prove his point. I don't think it's a point of coddling him either...that's not what he's requesting.

All this PR crap of saying 'we would welcome him back' is just that. He's under contract for crying out loud....if they didn't want him back they would have cut him rather than pay him to sit at home the whole season. The language and posture of the FO continually makes it sound like it's not up to them where he winds up when it truly is either way. If AD decides to hold out or retire it will be the result of the FO regarding his concerns, right or wrong. Maybe their plan has been to trade him all along. Then a least their comments would make more sense, 'we would welcome him back with open arms...except we plan on trading him ASAP after he's reinstated'

His latest comments puzzled me, but after reading the Powers piece, the freakin governor's comment and sampled some of the tones here and there....I get where he's coming from and I think his concerns are legit.


I can only assume that resentment is the cause for some to view AD as an enemy of the Viking community. The guy has what many might consider a narrow world view which can cause him to sound unintelligent when he opns his yap but he is not a malicious person from what I can see.

I'm not sure I can claim the same about Tom Powers.. Two wrongs don't make a right and intention has more of a say in most cases about the truth of peoples actions than the outcomes.

And all of this would probably be a moot point by now if it weren't for the jack- assed -ness of Roger Goodell.
What a clown.

dead_poet wrote:

Tensions rise between Adrian Peterson's agent, Vikings exec in Indy
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jas ... ec-in-indy

holy crap

what a debacle



pass the jameson

The Breeze wrote: holy crap

what a debacle



pass the jameson

The Breeze wrote: holy crap

what a debacle



pass the jameson

I am simply tired of it. I used to be a huge Peterson fan, so was my son. He is only 10, and I told him two days ago that Peterson probably won't be playing for the vikings this year, he was on the verge of Tears.

I am not sure what Peterson expected the Vikings to do. He has created such a ####, I just want him gone now, trade him if you can, cut him if you can't trade him. The team is bigger than him.

Losing Peterson sucks no matter what way you look at it but the worst part about this might be that these public comments and stories could be killing any trade value he has. I think getting a second round pick would be a huge win for Spielman but it'll probably end up being even less than that.

Seems odd that this would happen in such a public forum and Jason La Canfora would be the first to break it, but who knows.

Breaking down the pros and cons from a football perspective, unless the Vikings are going to contend next year, it probably makes more sense to trade him anyway.

I think its to everyones advantage at this point.

Ben Goessling ‏@GoesslingESPN 3m3 minutes ago
Had heard from several people that Ben Dogra had shouting match w/a Vikings official on Thursday. @JasonLaCanfora says it was Rob Brzezinski

Rumors, rumors, rumors... These guys all keep throwing you-know-what at the wall to see what will stick. Maybe it happened. Maybe an alternate version of it happened. I don't care. I'm getting really tired of rumors from undisclosed sources and NFL "insiders". We're a month and a half away from the point where Peterson can be reinstated and the Vikings can talk to him directly and that's a lot of time. I wouldn't be surprised if the media has him cut, traded and back with the Vikings at least 2 or 3 times by then. Meanwhile, he's under contract and not going anywhere unless the Vikes allow it. Peterson seems to respect Zimmer and Zimmer seems to want to talk to Peterson so after April 15th, assuming Peterson gets reinstated, that conversation will probably happen and then we'll see where things go from there. Up to that point, unless the Vikings decide to trade Peterson before ever getting a chance to talk to him, all these rumors and claims from the media are probably meaningless.

All the rumours and speculation from media might be meaningless but look at the comments Peterson has made. Doesn't sound like someone who is too eager to get back to the Vikings.