Trent Williams

[Pondering Her Percy]

Per my info given to me from William'sdmgreat friend and ex teammate , the Vikes are working very seriously at getting him under contract with us. The Browns are also coming at him very aggressively. I can also tell you for sure that he himself is definitely hoping to have it work out for him to be a Viking.
Another thing, yes he us 32 yrs old. But , and this comes from from the guy who played right beside him for 6 seasons, he is healthy, very well rested and very hungry to get away from the Skins debacle and play for a good organization.
So I know he wants to be a Viking, and its gonna be interesting to see if we are able to do enough maneuvering without hurting the roster to get it done.
Guess we will know before too long possibly.
If I hear anything before its announced publicly I will post it here.

I don't like that it is the Browns we are competing with. They are an organization that is typically willing to overpay for players in trades, they are drafting higher than us in every round so their picks have more value, and Washington would much rather send him to Cleveland than to the Vikings.

But we have more to dangle out there in terms of players is my guess. Washington has zero leverage so both teams could be low balling the crap out of them. I know I would.

[Rhodes Closed]

I don't like that it is the Browns we are competing with. They are an organization that is typically willing to overpay for players in trades, they are drafting higher than us in every round so their picks have more value, and Washington would much rather send him to Cleveland than to the Vikings.

But we have more to dangle out there in terms of players is my guess. Washington has zero leverage so both teams could be low balling the crap out of them. I know I would.

If I were the Vikings GM, I'd be working out a three-way trade. Reiff to the Browns, Trent to the Vikings, and a Browns player to the Redskins.

[RandyMoss84]

But we have more to dangle out there in terms of players is my guess. Washington has zero leverage so both teams could be low balling the crap out of them. I know I would.

If I were the Vikings GM, I'd be working out a three-way trade. Reiff to the Browns, Trent to the Vikings, and a Browns player to the Redskins.

That could work

[Bowhunting Viking]

By no means am I saying it's a done deal or saying that anything is imminent. But I got a text from an ex Skins O linemans brother about 1 min ago that said " Well Proff ( my nickname) it's now a closer possibility than it was a few hrs ago, that your early Christmas present may be a big All Pro left OT who is very familiar with your franchise OB. Wil let u know if it gets done"
So maybe it just might happen.

[Pondering Her Percy]

By no means am I saying it's a done deal or saying that anything is imminent. But I got a text from an ex Skins O linemans brother about 1 min ago that said " Well Proff ( my nickname) it's now a closer possibility than it was a few hrs ago, that your early Christmas present may be a big All Pro left OT who is very familiar with your franchise OB. Wil let u know if it gets done"
So maybe it just might happen.

I feel like I have a first hand connection to Adam Schefter right now You’ve got me on the edge of my seat right now Brett!

[Bowhunting Viking]

By no means am I saying it's a done deal or saying that anything is imminent. But I got a text from an ex Skins O linemans brother about 1 min ago that said " Well Proff ( my nickname) it's now a closer possibility than it was a few hrs ago, that your early Christmas present may be a big All Pro left OT who is very familiar with your franchise OB. Wil let u know if it gets done"
So maybe it just might happen.

I feel like I have a first hand connection to Adam Schefter right now You’ve got me on the edge of my seat right now Brett!

That's some funny stuff Mike. Just weird to think I am in a position of knowing a player and his whole family so well that allows me to be able to keep tabs on a situation like this that affects our beloved Vikes like this. Just crazy that a guy from such a small rural school was able to have the success that he did. Pretty beat to be able to talk to him and get an insight about alot of the stuff that goes on in the league. The good amd the bad.
I have also been able to see first hand the price that alot if these guys do pay for all the riches and prestige that does come with the career. Especially the guys in the trenches, the O and D lineman, the LBs and the RBs. Thise guys are the ones the pay the heavy price by the toll they take on their bodies. My friend played 9 seasons, but 2 seasons were lost to injury. Hes just turned 35 last week, and has already had 2 knee surgeries, neck surgery, elbow surgery, a hip replacement, has severe elbow issues and major arthritis issues in his fingers and hands, and also some other things I will not share. He was very intelligent with his money and has made some VERY wise investments. Trust me , you won't read of him going through bankruptcy or losing his fortunes. His kids, kids ,kids will never have to want doe anything. But believe me the will be raised working on the different family farms and will learn the value of hard work and to use your resources to help others. He has built a full gym and improved all of the sports facilities, but also hemoed improve the Arts and scholastic facilities, and provided college scholarships, all with his own money. He is a great example of a true pro and a great human being.
I've also heard him talk with a heavy heart about the guys that are making the "serious superstar money' who end up hitting teammates up all the time by the end if the week because they blew through their game checks in less than a week and have bills that need to be paid before they lose their toys. It's just in unreal the things that I have heard. Actually its sickening and sad.

Well hopefully I can keepngettingbtge breaking news and be our forums Adam Schefter, Ian Rappaport or Jay Glazer. As long as nobody refers to me as Ed Werder I will continue to try and keep the news coming.
If it ends up not coming to fruition and the deal falls through, please , all of you , just remember that this isn't my real job, and honestly.. I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! So dont hold me accountable

[Maelstrom88]

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Trent at 16 would be a steal.

[Vikings09]

I think getting Williams is very important...it gives a chance to make this OL a strength and not a weakness. Plus it gives us more options of how to use our two first round picks and I’m in favor of using them both for the DT from South Carolina and that would sure up both lines.

[Bowhunting Viking]

We can't discount the vocal leadership, the credibility and the teachable knowledge that he would immediately being the 1st day that he stepped into the locker room, in the position room and on the field. His teammate told me that he is very respected teammate who is very well liked and carries alot of weight. The most important thing is that he is the type of leader thst is a very good teacher, and is so respected that his leadership carries alot of weight with teammates. He is the type of leader that guys not only listen to and want to learn from, but respect so much that they don't want to disappoint him, so they will listen to him and bust their #### to essentially do what he asks of them because they know it is all for the good of the team. NOW THAT is the type of guy we need to bring in for our line. Seriously we really do have a pretty young line, with Bradbury, O'Neil, Elf,Dozier and Dru. What a great leader to add to help solidify this group of young guys and help mold them into solid line and become a close group on off the field. I will be happy to see it happen if we are fortunate to be able to sign him.

[S197]

The more I think about it the more I think Williams is a pass. He’s better off with another team, someone that is in the window now. The Vikings are better off drafting someone and hoping in 2-3 years he’s starter worthy. It’s basically what we’re doing with half the team right now. Williams age and also injury history isn’t conducive to a team in rebuild mode.

I gotta respectfully disagree. I don’t think we are out of that window at all. We still have a good QB, two stud RB, a stud WR, two solid TEs, a few building blocks on the OL, one of the best DEs in the nfl, a top 3 run stuffer, one of the better LB duos in the league, easily the best safety duo in the league. Like yeah there are holes but this is still 100% a playoff team IMO. Especially given that 7 teams make it now. And I think if we play our cards right and Spielman drafts well, we can be more than just a playoff team in a year.

Williams is 32. As long as he proves to be fairly healthy, whoever he goes to he will play for them for another 5+ years. It’s not like he’s a 1-2 year contract guy that only win now teams can take. He’s in the category of Staley, Joe Thomas, Whitworth, Jason Peters, Tyron Smith. They play a long time and are successful for a long time. That’s Williams

Also, you have to take into consideration that if we don’t make that deal it’s just one more position we HAVE to address this year or at the latest, next year. By getting Williams, we shouldn’t have to touch the tackle spot for another 4+ years. We already have WR, LG, RG, DT, DE, CBx2 and possibly safety to fill. Why add left tackle to that list when we don’t need to. Given the Williams deal I suggested (Reiff and a 4th) we lose minimal draft capital and drastically improve a position. If we make this deal, we’d have arguably the best pass blocking tackle duo in the nfl. When was the last time we could say that? Stringer and Steussie? McKinnon and Loadholt maybe? I think we are out of our minds if we don’t find a way to make this deal the more I look at it.

I’m working on an updated mock which should be out within the next few days

I figured you would, which of course is totally fine. You may be right.

But Zimmer has yet to put together back to back playoff seasons and now he's going to have to do it with a lot less than he had last year. Maybe they've upgraded at DT but really other than that it's a big drop that will need to be filled with rookies and low tier FAs. Just feels like another 8-8 season, give or take a win/loss.

Williams hasn't played 16 games since 2013. I don't know the circumstances behind every season but I know at least a few were health related. So it's a bit of a different circumstance from some of the other tackles mentioned.

For this to pan out, you'd have to believe Zimmer can get over the hump, Spielman crushes the draft, and Williams stays healthy. Seems a lot to ask for considering all the history to the contrary. I'd rather move Oneill to LT and look for a RT in the draft.

[VikingsVictorious]

By no means am I saying it's a done deal or saying that anything is imminent. But I got a text from an ex Skins O linemans brother about 1 min ago that said " Well Proff ( my nickname) it's now a closer possibility than it was a few hrs ago, that your early Christmas present may be a big All Pro left OT who is very familiar with your franchise OB. Wil let u know if it gets done"
So maybe it just might happen.

Wow that is big. I wonder what it will take.

[VikingsVictorious]

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Trent at 16 would be a steal.

Assuming he is fully healthy and hasn't lost anything after his year off 16 would be OK, but Tunsil is much younger and that accounts for something.

[IIsweet]

I would love to see Williams, but also understand he is 32yrs old. Although at this rate, he should have at least 5 good years in him.
We are not getting the 26 year old phenom either. However, he is plug and play and an upgrade as a true LT. I like moving O'Neill also, and it is A LOT cheaper to do so. Surely he will want big $$$ after this season too!
I am torn.
Move ONeill and draft best OT at 22 or 25.... Or sign TWill, solidify the OL, and draft BPA at 22 and 25.

[Frozen Rope]

By no means am I saying it's a done deal or saying that anything is imminent. But I got a text from an ex Skins O linemans brother about 1 min ago that said " Well Proff ( my nickname) it's now a closer possibility than it was a few hrs ago, that your early Christmas present may be a big All Pro left OT who is very familiar with your franchise OB. Wil let u know if it gets done"
So maybe it just might happen.

This is a fact. Cousins and Trent Williams have a great relationship. Washington never had a running game when Cousins played there. They were a passing team and TW played hurt to protect him. They never appreciated his value and worth to the team. Then when he was hurt, he never felt he got the right medical advice and felt marginalized. I would guess he would love the Vikings world class medical team and the culture here. I know he would love playing with Kirk again. He’s one of the best LT I’ve seen. I hope the Vikings can pull off a deal. We really need him.

[Pondering Her Percy]

For this to pan out, you'd have to believe Zimmer can get over the hump, Spielman crushes the draft, and Williams stays healthy. Seems a lot to ask for considering all the history to the contrary. I'd rather move Oneill to LT and look for a RT in the draft.

I hear ya, I liked the idea of O'Neill at LT but again, we're doing nothing but creating more holes. If they were going to do that, they'd cut Reiff by now. We have too many holes entering the draft. If we look for a RT in the draft, we now would need to find 2 starting guards and a starting tackle in 1 draft, plus need a few corners, WRs and more. We cant create any more holes at this point. By trading Reiff and a pick for Williams, we arent creating a hole, we're just making one position significantly better.