StumpHunter wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:08 am
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:55 am
Did you miss the part where I said Mahomes was drafted at 10 and we would have picked at 14?? Saying you wanted us to draft Teddy's replacement is one thing. Saying you wanted Pat Mahomes from the start is another. Because like I said above, KC would have still picked Mahomes and we would have been stuck with Paxton Lynch. Not sure why you arent seeing that. We didnt technically pass on Mahomes. He would have been off the board at our pick. And if teams knew how good he really was, he would have went first overall. But either way, you can go down the "we'd have a ring" road all you want but Mahomes wouldnt have been on this team regardless. That's like saying "we should have drafted Russell Wilson in 2012". Nobody knew if Wilson was going to be good or not. But since I know he's good now, I'm going to say we should have picked him! lol. Like that's just not reality. Sure we could have passed on Bradford and drafted but I could almost guarantee you we werent landing Mahomes. So why are you even going down that road? Because it's the only string you have left to hang onto. You picked a once in a decade QB to help your argument against not signing Kirk Cousins.....weird....
Again you make my argument for me. Missing out on a "once in a decade QB" is why I think our GM sucks. KC traded up from 27 for Mahommes, we couldn't trade up from 14, (assuming we win just as many games with Hill as Bradford, which makes that trade even worse)?
You don't think our GM would have gotten us a "once in a decade QB" even if he had had the ammunition to get him, guarantee it in fact, but you defend him as a top GM and trust that he made the right decision in Cousins? Something doesn't add up there.
First of all, if you somehow think Shaun Hill wins 8 games with this team I really dont know what to tell you. The guy was 36 and could barely move. No less he wasnt a good QB to begin with.
Second, If our GM sucks, then so do the GMs for the rest of the teams in the NFL. Because 9 teams passed on him and plenty others missed trading up for him. So I guess they suck too. Because they ALL missed on a once in a decade type player. We could have traded up, sure. But you also have no idea who is coming from behind you. Not a soul out there thought KC would be coming up from that far to snag him. You also have to worry about who is in front of you. You make it sound like a walk in the park and we should have know Mahomes was an elite QB talent and traded up for him. NOBODY knows and neither did you as much as you might think you did. Why did teams pass on Aaron Rodgers? Why did the Chargers trade Drew Brees? Why did Russell Wilson get passed up by all 32 teams 2 times or more before he was drafted in the 3rd? Why did every GM and coach in the NFL pass on Tom Brady 6-7 times before he was drafted? Because NOBODY TRULY KNOWS. Not because "they suck".
But yeah sure, I guess our GM sucks because he traded for Sam Bradford well ahead of the 2017 NFL draft, not thinking that he would have been able to eventually land Pat Mahomes the following year if (and only if) he traded up for him. What an idiot! What was he even thinking?!! I could literally go back 10 years and pick apart every draft saying, we should have passed on Barr for Aaron Donald in 2014, we shouldnt have passed on Wilson in 2012, we should have passed on Floyd and drafted Hopkins in 2013, etc and literally make myself an all star team by doing that. It doesnt make you sound like you know what you're talking about because anyone could do that and that's what you're doing with Mahomes.
But like come on dude....welcome back to reality. You went from hating on Kirk Cousins trying to find any spec of dirt you could on him and saying he wasnt worth the contract (but somehow couldnt name anyone better than him we should have gotten after multiple people called you out for it and ignored them) to then pulling Pat Mahomes out of your as#. Ok

And we should have traded up for Peyton Manning in 1998

GM of the year here.....