Lions @ Vikings Game Day DiscussionThread -- Week 17

[MrPurplenGold]

For you cap experts out there, how much of Carlson's remaining contract is guaranteed?

This Chase Ford looks like a potential cheap replacement!

If I remember correctly the contract was really only a 2 year contract such that if they cut him after this year he wouldn't have a cap hit

[CalVike]

I don't remember but I don't think it's much. He's suffered enough concussions that I can imagine him considering retirement.

I think John Carlson restructured after 2012 to avoid being cut after his terrible year.


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[VikingPaul73]

I don't remember but I don't think it's much. He's suffered enough concussions that I can imagine him considering retirement.

Good point. I think Ford looks like a decent backup to Rudolph next year.

[Webbfann]

What's up with Cassel getting so many passes knocked down every game from the line of scrimmage

As mentioned, his passes just seem to come off his hand low and then rise. I noticed that all year.

[Hunter Morrow]

It would be just like the vikings to give up a touchdown and get outcoached in the second half to lose the game.

[PurpleKoolaid]

If it wasn't for Patterson's rushing ability, this would be one boring half.

[VikingPaul73]

Someone call up sauce!

LOL, I wonder what Joe Senser and Steve Jordan are up to these days

[S197]

That plus Cassel has a slow release. Almost like a wind up.

And he stands in the pocket.

[Lash Man]

Is Walsh injured? That's two in his range and they punted.

thats Frazier playing not to lose the game instead of to win it , even when its pretty obvious the Kitties aren't really into the game . There is no reason not to attempt those field goals inside the dome in a meaningless game .

[PotGoblin]

actually I was wrong earlier - we could theoretically move up to the number 3 spot. But We have better odds to go undefeated next year and win the SB - we would have to lose and Atlanta, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Oakland, and Tampa Bay would all have to win vs Carolina, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Denver and New Orleans respectively.

[Eli]

If it wasn't for Patterson's rushing ability, this would be one boring half.

Yeah, these definitely look like a couple of teams that won't be playing after today.

[Lash Man]

I wish JA would have given this effort all season .

[MrPurplenGold]

Good point. I think Ford looks like a decent backup to Rudolph next year.

John Carlson's five-year, $25 million contract with the Minnesota Vikings could end up being a two-year, $11 million pact, depending how the veteran tight end produces.

According to a source with access to NFL salary data, only $9.1 million of the deal Carlson signed on Wednesday is truly guaranteed -- a $5 million signing bonus, plus Carlson's full $2.9 million base salary in 2012 and $1.2 million of his $2.9 million base salary in 2013.

http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/3/16/ ... -year-deal

[Mothman]

I think John Carlson restructured after 2012 to avoid being cut after his terrible year.

Now that you mention it, I think you're right.

[Mothman]

thats Frazier playing not to lose the game instead of to win it , even when its pretty obvious the Kitties aren't really into the game . There is no reason not to attempt those field goals inside the dome in a meaningless game .

He's just playing a field position game and since they have a shutout going, it's not exactly a failing strategy.