I believe I’ve done exactly what you just said.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 8:44 amI have made it very clear I am not a Zimmer supporter and believe his time in MN has run its course. What I am, is a fan who looks at his team realistically and uses logic and facts instead of emotion to form opinions on what the issues are on this team. So when someone says Zimmer is against the offense making big plays or scoring a lot of points, I disagree with that poster because that statement is ludicrous. When someone says Zimmer doesn't know how to develop talent on defense, I point out all of the successes he has had doing just that, and then ask which defensive players have gotten better, not worse after leaving MN. When someone says Zimmer holds back his QBs, I point out that EVERY QB who has ever played for him has had their best years by quite a large margin. When people blame him for making decisions every other HC in the NFL makes, I point out that Zimmer just did what the top 32 football coaches in the world do.
What I don't do is disagree with people who feel Zimmer has lost his edge, who claim his defense is not as good as it once was, and who claim that he is not doing a good enough job helping his GM find players in the draft to help his D. Those statements are all true and good enough reasons to move on.
If people would just stick with reasonable knocks on Zimmer, instead of illogical ones not backed up by anything other than a hope that they are true so that they don't have to believe there are other, more serious issues with their favorite team, I wouldn't come off as defending Zimmer. I would be right there agreeing with them.
My assessment of Zimmer has been fair and reasonable, and if you disagree, then there’s no point in carrying on a conversation with you.
As I said, I was excited when they hired him. I was among his biggest fans in 2017, even after the debacle in Philly. I said that above.
But I disagree with you wholeheartedly when you say there are other more serious issues with the Vikings. He’s the head coach, and he’s lost his touch. Or the team is tuning him out. Something is wrong, and it’s the head coach’s job to identify it and fix it. He has failed to do that. This team has been below .500 for more than 700 consecutive days. Not even one game over. If Mike Zimmer can’t fix that, and it appears he can’t, then it’s time to move on.
That does not mean Cousins gets a pass. I agree with Doug Pederson, who says the head coach-quarterback relationship is the most important in football. It is my belief that the two men share equal responsibility in a relationship that has never worked — more accurately, that has failed spectacularly. It is my fervent hope that we can trade Cousins and get a fresh start. Short of that, I want the Vikings to ride out his contract and let him walk. But my preference would be to trade him. If they extend him, I may very well put my fanhood on hold. He’s not a leader. I want a leader at the game’s most important position.
If you don’t see that as a reasonable assessment of the situation, especially considering the mountain of evidence I’ve offered to support it, then again, I don’t know what to say.