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Convince me that Mike Zimmer should still be the head coach of the Vikings...GO!!!

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Go......
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Post by Foreman44 » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:42 pm

I was for him getting the boot last year
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Who would be a good replacement?
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Post by makila » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:43 am

I'd like to see Bieniemy given a chance here. He has obvious ties to the organization. I have no clue what kind of terms/relationship he has with current ownership. Realize there are mixed results with Reid's OCs. Not some retread though. Go hire someone who understands today's offenses.

Few others in that same mold; Leftwich, Daboll, and Brady. I think Bieniemy is a little more proven. Those guys have some nice track records so far though with upside.

Riley from OU was a hot commodity recently. Being a supporter of OU I know I have internal bias. Ha. He has his flaws though. Young with potential. Better offensive mind than KK in Arizona imo. I like that model, go out and get a proven DC, and lets him do his thing.
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Post by VikingLord » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:35 am

I think psjordan discussed this about as well as I've seen it discussed in the Browns post-game thread. Zimmer's teams have generally had the same problems over and over and generally have failed to win against better teams while mopping up against worse teams. It's produced a long track record of middling results pretty much every year he's been the head coach with the exception of 2017 when both Spielman and he lucked into a once-in-a-lifetime performance from their 3rd string journeyman QB. They were middling again last year and appear to be well on their way to middling again this year.

So no, I can't convince you Zimmer should be head coach after this year.

However, I think before they find a new coach they need to get a new GM. Spielman hasn't produced a team capable of consistently winning either. So get a new GM first, then let the GM find his coach.

Zimmer will get this year, as will Cousins. Cousins might get another year due to his contract, but if the Vikings do make big offseason moves at GM and head coach it probably isn't realistic to expect the first year under the new regime to be a great year.

Although...

What if Aaron Rodgers wanted to come to Minnesota next year ala Brett Favre in 2009? Let's say for kicks and giggles Rodgers wants to stick it to the Packers GM the same way Favre did. Could the Vikings even make that happen with Cousins' contract hanging over their heads?
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Post by chicagopurple » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:23 pm

Until the coach AND GM are gone, the Vikes will remain a hopeless mess.
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Post by J. Kapp 11 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:51 pm

Because Mike Zimmer is a tough, hard-nosed warrior whose players both love and fear him, much like General George S. Patton.

No?

OK, because he is the creator of the dreaded Double A-Gap Pressure Defense, which no team has solved in all the years he’s been using it.

Not buying it?

Well then, because he’s an X and O mastermind whose in-game adjustments and clock management skills are without peer in the history of the NFL.

Or how about this? Because he would never stoop to nepotism such as making his own kid defensive coordinator, or his best bud’s kid the offensive coordinator.

Wait. I know. Because he’s a savant-like motivator of kickers. A master developer of offensive linemen? Stand-up guy who always accepts blame and never throws his players under the bus?

Is great with the media?

Dang guys. I’m running out of ideas. I give up.
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Re: Convince me that Mike Zimmer should still be the head coach of the Vikings...GO!!!

Post by RandyMoss84 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:06 pm

VikingLord wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:35 am
I think psjordan discussed this about as well as I've seen it discussed in the Browns post-game thread. Zimmer's teams have generally had the same problems over and over and generally have failed to win against better teams while mopping up against worse teams. It's produced a long track record of middling results pretty much every year he's been the head coach with the exception of 2017 when both Spielman and he lucked into a once-in-a-lifetime performance from their 3rd string journeyman QB. They were middling again last year and appear to be well on their way to middling again this year.

So no, I can't convince you Zimmer should be head coach after this year.

However, I think before they find a new coach they need to get a new GM. Spielman hasn't produced a team capable of consistently winning either. So get a new GM first, then let the GM find his coach.

Zimmer will get this year, as will Cousins. Cousins might get another year due to his contract, but if the Vikings do make big offseason moves at GM and head coach it probably isn't realistic to expect the first year under the new regime to be a great year.

Although...

What if Aaron Rodgers wanted to come to Minnesota next year ala Brett Favre in 2009? Let's say for kicks and giggles Rodgers wants to stick it to the Packers GM the same way Favre did. Could the Vikings even make that happen with Cousins' contract hanging over their heads?
No since Vikings would have to take a 95 million cap hit if Vikings release Cousins and Rodgers
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Post by CharVike » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:37 am

65-50-1 W-L, 2-3 W-L in playoffs, 0 SB won. Per ESPN stadium attendance through 2 games avg 66,716 / 100.4 pct. From a business perspective the attendance is full+ which means the product is good which means Zimmer stays. The Wilf family couldn't expect anymore than that. That's money in their pocket and in the end that's the game. If this year follows Zimmers past years we should make the playoffs. That means the stadium will stay full. I don't see a benefit to the Wilf family business by axing Zimmer. Him and Speilman are filling the joint up. Washington is at 62 pct full. That's pathetic for a division winner. Those fans are smart and know their team blows and they have a joke at QB who has been around forever and sucks. Not a good way to sell tickets.
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Post by Foreman44 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:32 pm

As I stated earlier. I wanted him gone last year.

Viking luck will be he finishes strong and we are stuck with him another year, worse, more than one year.
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Post by StumpHunter » Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:30 pm

The only one who can convince me Zimmer should remain the HC is Zimmer.
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Post by StanM » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:18 am

J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:51 pm
Because Mike Zimmer is a tough, hard-nosed warrior whose players both love and fear him, much like General George S. Patton.

No?

OK, because he is the creator of the dreaded Double A-Gap Pressure Defense, which no team has solved in all the years he’s been using it.

Not buying it?

Well then, because he’s an X and O mastermind whose in-game adjustments and clock management skills are without peer in the history of the NFL.

Or how about this? Because he would never stoop to nepotism such as making his own kid defensive coordinator, or his best bud’s kid the offensive coordinator.

Wait. I know. Because he’s a savant-like motivator of kickers. A master developer of offensive linemen? Stand-up guy who always accepts blame and never throws his players under the bus?

Is great with the media?

Dang guys. I’m running out of ideas. I give up.
Hilarious reply. You threw Zim a real zinger. I wouldn’t expect that, my memories of Kapp’s passes are more like wounded waterfowl attempting to fly.
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Post by Foreman44 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:40 pm

StanM wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:18 am
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:51 pm
Because Mike Zimmer is a tough, hard-nosed warrior whose players both love and fear him, much like General George S. Patton.

No?

OK, because he is the creator of the dreaded Double A-Gap Pressure Defense, which no team has solved in all the years he’s been using it.

Not buying it?

Well then, because he’s an X and O mastermind whose in-game adjustments and clock management skills are without peer in the history of the NFL.

Or how about this? Because he would never stoop to nepotism such as making his own kid defensive coordinator, or his best bud’s kid the offensive coordinator.

Wait. I know. Because he’s a savant-like motivator of kickers. A master developer of offensive linemen? Stand-up guy who always accepts blame and never throws his players under the bus?

Is great with the media?

Dang guys. I’m running out of ideas. I give up.
Hilarious reply. You threw Zim a real zinger. I wouldn’t expect that, my memories of Kapp’s passes are more like wounded waterfowl attempting to fly.
But Joe Kapp had to have a leadership quality, getting the best out of the team..


Like 40 for 60 for 70.

I liked Joe
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Post by J. Kapp 11 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:46 pm

StanM wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:18 am
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:51 pm
Because Mike Zimmer is a tough, hard-nosed warrior whose players both love and fear him, much like General George S. Patton.

No?

OK, because he is the creator of the dreaded Double A-Gap Pressure Defense, which no team has solved in all the years he’s been using it.

Not buying it?

Well then, because he’s an X and O mastermind whose in-game adjustments and clock management skills are without peer in the history of the NFL.

Or how about this? Because he would never stoop to nepotism such as making his own kid defensive coordinator, or his best bud’s kid the offensive coordinator.

Wait. I know. Because he’s a savant-like motivator of kickers. A master developer of offensive linemen? Stand-up guy who always accepts blame and never throws his players under the bus?

Is great with the media?

Dang guys. I’m running out of ideas. I give up.
Hilarious reply. You threw Zim a real zinger. I wouldn’t expect that, my memories of Kapp’s passes are more like wounded waterfowl attempting to fly.
Why would you do my hero like that?

He may have thrown ducks, but he was the MVP quarterback of the only NFL championship team in Vikings history. When Mike Zimmer accomplishes anything close to that, he can be mentioned in the same stratosphere.
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