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by phantom
Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:01 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Plus nobody can get that lucky Case had an amazing season for us and I was in favor of resigning him rather than bringing in Cousins. Case has never been good since and it's very questionable if he would have played well for us again, but I thought he earned the shot at it. Nope no Guarantee Case w...
by phantom
Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:37 am
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

phantom wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:40 pm
JJBreaksRecords wrote: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:01 pm

I do too. But some fans thought it was just Case being lucky.
Everyone has gotten some luck to win.
Plus nobody can get that lucky
by phantom
Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:09 am
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Nothing to ignore. Kirk has always been a better QB than Stafford. If Stafford can win the big one so can Kirk. I'm sure you would be massively disappointed if that happened. You can continue to debate in bad faith all you want, but all the evidence that you completely ignore points to Kirk being a...
by phantom
Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:13 am
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Here are some of Cousins tough conditions since 2015: OCs 4 of his 7 seasons who had either won a SB in the past as a HC, won one later on or won coach of the year. 6 of 7 seasons with receivers ranked in the top 9, with his worst receiver group coming in at 16th. An elite run game 3 of the 4 past ...
by phantom
Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:04 am
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

You know you have NOTHING to stand on. I'm basing my stance on the facts/Stats. I'm going along with you on winning does matter so I'm also including Wins and Losses since they are so important to you. Cousins has been better in pretty much every way throughout both of their careers. All you want t...
by phantom
Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:28 am
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

You know you have NOTHING to stand on. I'm basing my stance on the facts/Stats. I'm going along with you on winning does matter so I'm also including Wins and Losses since they are so important to you. Cousins has been better in pretty much every way throughout both of their careers. All you want t...
by phantom
Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:28 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

I guess your going to ignore the fact I said there a big difference. If you think the League values Kirk as much as Stafford or Wilson, The Vikes would have got as much for him if they wanted. Instead the Vikes have to pick up 10 million of his contract just to trade him and you think your making a...
by phantom
Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:26 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Nothing homer about Cousins having been a better QB than Stafford throughout their careers. Stats and W/L document that very easily. I guess your going to ignore the fact I said there a big difference. If you think the League values Kirk as much as Stafford or Wilson, The Vikes would have got as mu...
by phantom
Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:47 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Man, the temperature in the VMB house goes up about 30 degrees whenever Kirk Cousins is the center of conversation. I will try to be level-headed here and go back to what I said earlier. We've argued for four years about what kind of quarterback Kirk Cousins is. But hopefully everyone agrees that h...
by phantom
Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:22 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Stafford took over a 0-16 team, big difference from taking over a 13-3 Super Bowl contender. Cousins and Cousins Camp got faced when Stafford got a Super Bowl contender an won the 1st year. One of the desired and expected results when Cousins got here. He couldn't run the Offense better and keep th...
by phantom
Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:19 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

I provided the numbers. Kirk comes out ahead of Stafford and quite easily. Since you like W/L and consider W/L to be on the QB Cousins comes out well ahead in that stat also. Once again my statement shows up as Phantom's. I have no idea why that's happening. I have to believe it's a site problem. S...
by phantom
Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:14 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

LMAO Stump taking one of his Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepest dives ever to come up with stats that have Stafford ahead of Kirk, and you reposting it. LMAO is all I can say. Let's go to every year the two of them have been in the league. Check W/L, yardage, TDs, Int, QBR you...
by phantom
Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:15 am
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

In what world was Stafford ever better than Cousins other than last year maybe. Don't call my beliefs based on pretty much all evidence delusions or lies. Go back and check the stats and the results. If you'd like we can check the w/l record and stats year by year by year. All you can do about that...
by phantom
Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:43 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Really is that why they gave up so much for Stafford, and the Vikes would have had to pick up 10 million of Kirks 45 Million contract if the traded before the year started. Read some those articles. The only one who is delusional is you. Kirk has always been better than Stafford. No delusions whats...
by phantom
Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:10 pm
Forum: Vikings Talk
Topic: Top Tier QB's
Replies: 334
Views: 11779

Re: Top Tier QB's

Regardless of your rhetoric, Cousins hasnt gotten the job done. See, I call it like it is. All you do is find excuses for Cousins. And Case was just lucky when he helped this team further in the playoffs than Kirky has ever seen (and imo, will EVER see). Any QB is going to do well if a QB has a goo...