2024 Free Agents

[CharVike]

The game has changed. It might as well be called QB ball, not football. A great QB is worth more to a team than all the rest of their players combined.

It's always been like that. If you have nothing at QB your done. Look at that crap we fielded after Cousins was hurt. We couldn't score and it was an embarrassment. Not even worth watching that BS. Our team never would have went to those SB if we didn't get Fran back. We wasted better teams in 70 and 71 because nothing at QB. But picking a QB top 5 gets fans excited. They think that's all you need. We have a top 5 now this year in Darnold. He can't throw an accurate ball. Useless.

[CharVike]

Texans, DE Danielle Hunter agree to terms on two-year, $49M contract

Good for Hunter. I always liked him. The guy plays hard. I didn't think he would get much attention. I was wrong. Looks like the Texans is going for it. Out with the old in with the new.

[CharVike]

The game has changed. It might as well be called QB ball, not football. A great QB is worth more to a team than all the rest of their players combined.

Gotcha! I don't agree. Game favors passing offense now, absolutely. Still think the trenches are the most important. I follow your logic if that's end all, be all, though. Thanks for reasonably discussing. : )

The trenches are a must have. There's no way around that.

[CharVike]

I'd frame it this way, it isn't "a franchise qb". It's the opportunity to try and swing for one. Absolutely no guarantee.

They miss and I suspect most fans would be livid in that scenario. And they lose their jobs.

It's about how confident THEY are if they think they can get a franchise qb.

To play devils advocate if qb is a position of need and a gm doesn’t take a swing and draft a qb, and then some of those QBs turn out to be good would be enough to get you fired as well as a gm. You neglected the most important position cause you were scared of losing your job and another team got him. That would be bye bye imo.

How many QBs does a gm usually get to draft before they lose their job? May as well make it a good one.

Well the 49ers picked a franchise guy number 3 who basically is worthless and a 3rd string QB. It didn't get them fired because they understand that you need to draft well. If KAM starts hitting on a bunch of picks he will be safe. He has proven he can't do that based on his 1st 2 drafts. Sure you can say that's not enough time. It's more than enough time.

[CharVike]

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If they are tanking why sign this guy? He's basically finished. What's wrong with Chandler or the guy they drafted last year or the eventual pick this year. They are moving in every direction. That tells me there is no overall plan in place.

[makila]

We basically traded hunter (2/50) for Greenard and Cashman. Seems like less risk and guaranteed money, and more years. Will see how it plays out...

Posted this a while ago...

Who would you rather have? Hunter or the other 2?

I don't know enough about Greenard to fairly give an opinion.

On the surface it seems like good moves. Multiple evaluators are fans of both Greenard and Van Ginkel. We got younger which is a positive. Greenard's stock seems to be on the rise.

I like Hunter a lot. He's been awesome here. I don't fully understand why they didn't trade him for an asset during the season. With us giving out the Greenard contract I think it minimizes any comp pick for Hunter. If the whole polling the locker room rumor is true. Yikes.

[VikingsVictorious]

Darnold is only 26 years old. Relatively still young, can McCown do anything with him?
Hopefully we can get a good bridge year out of him.

I HATE, HATE, HATE, the Darnold signing with a passion. Wasted $10 million that we can't afford to waste.

[VikingsVictorious]

Expect this year's 1st round selection to be the last 1st round selection the vikings will have until 2027 or 2028.

Very good chance you are correct. I hate that.

[VikingsVictorious]

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I like the Jones signing. I think he has gas left in the tank.

[VikingsVictorious]

Expect this year's 1st round selection to be the last 1st round selection the vikings will have until 2027 or 2028.

100% agree. Clearing out the books and doing it right! Finally it appears they have some competent leadership. Team Building in Todays NFL starts with a QB, Priority 1!. Period! Coaching is Priority 1B. The Team appears to be willing to spend money on quality coaching. The Team facilities and organization is one of the most appealing to players in the League. With the books being cleared out of big dead weight contracts for ageing, overvalued players they will be in a position to sign younger proven talent in Free agency going forward (at least while the Franchise guy is on a rookie deal). They will have all the pieces around him for him to thrive early in his career.

For the first time in 6-7 seasons I feel some excitement as a fan. Its time to roll the dice! Enough being OK with being an average organization.

I think we are going to give up future first round picks for a player we could have drafted at 11. I'm almost certain of this.

[VikingsVictorious]

That's the challenge.

2024 1st
2024 2nd
2025 1st
2025 2nd
2026 1st
2027 1st

Probably take something like that. Or one of those teams liking a qb likely available at 11 and still able to collect a haul to drop down.

There's no way they drop 4 1st rounders.

That is the likely cost to move up to 2.

[Cliff]

There's no way they drop 4 1st rounders.

That is the likely cost to move up to 2.

If it is they won't pay it.

[VikingsVictorious]

I am a proponent of moving up if you've identified your guy. Four first is too much imho. That type of trade rarely works well for the time giving up that much.

I hate the idea of trading up for a qb in this draft. Williams and Daniel's will cost too much and we can get as good or better at 11 than we can trading up.

[VikingsVictorious]

What would the Vikings be giving up ALLLLLLLLLL of that for?

Whichever QB prospect they see as a transcendent talent?

There's no Luck or Elway in this draft.

[VikingsVictorious]

Are 1st and 2nd rounders really that valuable if you don’t have the Priority 1 missing piece to the puzzle? Quality coaching, tenure of said coaching staff, continuity in the system’s put in place by the coaching staff and drafting and signing FA players that fit those systems are far more important than draft position IMO. A little research on the analytics of draft bust rates will show you that. It’s not to say that 1st and 2nds aren’t more valuable than 6th’s and 7ths, but as it relates to getting your franchise QB it is a no brainer. If you think you have your guy in this draft……go get him! Don’t settle. What have they got to lose by not going after him? More mediocrity?……..because that’s where this franchise has been stuck

Unless the Vikings expect to tank and grab a qb with a top 2-3 pick next year, they have to do something.

3-4 1st round picks for your franchise QB is a small price to pay...you just can't whiff on the pick.

I expect the Vikings will do what it takes to move up for their top guy if he is available at 2-3, pretty much whatever the cost.

You get it wrong you've destroyed your team and odds are 90% you get it wrong. There's a point where it's too expensive.