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mansquatch wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:34 am What does "hobbled" really mean?

We've got 6 weeks before we play a game that counts. Are our guys going to be hobbled 6 weeks from now? I for one would rather see them banged up now than in September. Obviously the preference would be for all of them to be healthy now, but they are not.

Seems a little premature to start talking trades without knowing the extent of the injuries. I don't think Elflein being hurt right now was much of a surprise to anyone.

I know that leading up the 2017 campaign this unit was the glaring weakness of the team. However, in 2017 this unit performed. Didn't it give up the 4th fewest sacks last year? Cook was leading the league in rushing when he got hurt. How much of the fear is "memory" of prior seasons and how much is the current reality? I get we have questions, most notably coach and RT, but I don't feel like we are an across the board dumpster fire. There are strong contributors on this unit from last year. We are not in a crisis yet.

Cliff wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:10 am It's a good point that we've got some time before the season starts but even one injury is going to be really hard on this line. Especially Elflein. who is one of the few bright spots on it. He had shoulder surgery and ankle surgery in the off season. Can he be relied on to stay healthy? Remmers is walking around in a boot. If he's back and ready to go can we count on him to stay healthy? What happens if they're both injured at the same time?

We don't have an across the board dumpster fire but we aren't far from being pretty terrible.

I'm not saying we should trade the farm for someone but I won't be angry if we can get more talent and depth on the line.

dead_poet wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:18 am I think corner is our best bet and Waynes specifically. Unfortunately I don't think he's played well enough long enough to generate enough in return to probably get anyone better than what we have. I'm wondering just how retired Berger is or if the prospect of another couple of million could persuade him to return if we find ourselves in a pinch. Probably unlikely. Best-case may be scooping up someone after cut day.

mansquatch wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:18 pm It is WAY TOO early to freak out. We've got over a month of training camp and pre-season. We haven't really seen how some of the new depth guys play in pre-season games or when/if they get to rotate in with the starters.

I agree on the scenario being less than optimal in the sense that somebody vs. nobody is hurt and the fact that Sparano died so tragically. However, in terms of the players things could be A LOT worse. We are not hearing "so and so is favoring his knee" or like we had with Riley Reiff last year where he missed some time due to some knee issue. We've got a guy sick, a guy recovering from known and expected surgeries and a guy slightly hobbled.

All I'm saying is give it some time. I bet in two weeks we'll have a MUCH clearer picture of where we are headed in terms of the OL in 2018.

I'd be on freak out watch if Reiff suddenly tore up a knee or something. We are not anywhere near that.

fiestavike wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:06 pm I will be quite surprised if Trae Waynes isn't traded, given that he is the most logical place to find cap relief next season, and that the 9 million due to him is only guaranteed in the event of an injury, and that his value is solid right now. With Rhodes, Alexander, Hill, Hughes, Richardson and Sherels, it is Waynes cap room that could be used to keep Anthony Barr in house. I doubt they'll trade Waynes for anything other than picks, however.

808vikingsfan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:22 pm What about Rudolph for making cap space next year? Judging by how Zimmer likes to keep db's, I have a hard time seeing him let Waynes go.