Jordysghost wrote:
Im on a Wii U gamepad, I cannot post links, Blandino explained the call on NFL Network, can somone who can post links back me up here? He said it was questionable and that it would typically be called, but also that taylors thumb hooking the facebar and jarring the facemask constitutes a penalty, however slight.
There was not 'demonstrably' no hook, here you go with you 'Im right your wrong' crap, sigh, Again you should go look at cutups from NFL Network unless they put his words in writing by now, I want ever so bad to prove without any doubt that your accusations are 100% wrong but alas, Ill have to wait till im on a computer. Blandino, thinks, it is a penalty, you should just get used to it now because I absolutely assure you it is the truth and you will see as much.
EDIT: Sorry, i missed it, you posted it right in your post, yes, Blandino in that very post concedes what constitutes a hook.
I guess it depends on if you dont think conceding what constitutes the penalty in the first place and then admitting that it would be called that way most the time is an act of concession that the call was correct, I honestly don't see why one wouldn't.
Let me break down what Blandino says
"Hand up near the face mask" certainly does not suggest hooking the facemask.
"Finger caught on the bottom bar, head does turn" this is probably where you're getting your assertion that Blandino is saying the finger hooked and caused the head to turn. Maybe that is what he's saying, but to me he's simply explaining why the call was made, and not why it was correct. He does not say finger grasps the facemask, nor does he say it's caught inside the bottom bar, things that would constitute a facemask call. You can see from the replay the finger never enters the facemask, it gets VERY briefly "caught" on the outside of the mask. Nothing more than what I would classify as touching or a graze. And he says the "head does turn". Again he's not saying the finger or hand CAUSED the head to turn, simply that it did turn. Thus why it understandable that the ref would make the call.
Honestly this is as clear cut as any call I've seen in football when looking at the replay. In real time, as I've said before, I can understand the call. Rodgers played it up well and in real time it's hard to really see where the hand lands. When slowed down, you can clearly see the hand never grasps the facemask, and you can clearly see that his finger never "hooks" it either, it's nothing more than a graze. The rules are very clear on this, in fact they were changed a few years ago for this very type of play. Facemasks have to be blatant. It's in the rules that you can indeed grab the facemask, as long as you immediate let go. The Detroit player never comes even close to grabbing the facemask, and Rodgers head moves clearly because the hand is being swiped from the right towards his face, that is just simple reflex.
The call was wrong, period. Understandable given the circumstance. But none the less wrong. Anyways, I'm done with this argument, I've stated my case pretty clearly, take it or leave it.