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Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:09 am
by fiestavike
720pete wrote:We currently have $21 million in cap space for 2017. If we cut AP we free up another $18 million, nearly doubling our cap space instantly.
Getting rid of Peterson, Floyd, Lamur, Crichton, Clemmings and Beavers would get them to 50.69million in cap space. I expect Robison will re-structure his deal, but he could be worth almost 6 million in cap space if they cut him. As I said, I think he'll do the full Chad Greenway and work 2 or 3 million off his deal.
Players like Sendejo and Sherels are in the 2-3 million range with no guaranteed money. They are both worth keeping at that price, but depending on how they address FA (say they target a Safety or a guy who can return punts) they have 5 million sitting there in a piggy bank which they could put toward an upgrade elsewhere.
Jarius Wright and his 3 million could be shipped of via trade, but half his salary is guaranteed so I don't think they'll cut him.
That's about is much cap space as they can generate this season. Somewhere around 64.5 million tops, more likely around 52 million.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:15 am
by Mothman
fiestavike wrote:I'm guessing they'd really like to trade him, even if they only get a 7th, so they can have some control over where he goes (and especially where he doesn't go). Obviously he'd have to work out a deal with a team. It could even explain why Peterson is publicly courting teams. The brass might be encouraging him to see if he can work out a deal so they can ship him off.
I think there is a chance that his pride won't let him play next season if the market for his services is as soft as I think it could be.
If it works out that way, it could even be more than just pride. Peterson has made a lot of money and taken a lot of physical punishment. When you've already made millions, it's one thing to keep playing and taking that punishment for another $8+ million a year and it's another to do it for $1 or $2 million a year. I feel silly saying that because to most of us, that's still an enormous amount of money. My point is simply that pride could be a factor but short and long term health considerations could start weighing more heavily if the market for Peterson ends up being
really soft.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:18 am
by fiestavike
Mothman wrote:
If it works out that way, it could even be more than just pride. Peterson has made a lot of money and taken a lot of physical punishment. When you've already made millions, it's one thing to keep playing and taking that punishment for another $8+ million a year and it's another to do it for $1 or $2 million a year. I feel silly saying that because to most of us, that's still an enormous amount of money. My point is simply that pride could be a factor but short and long term health considerations could start weighing more heavily if the market for Peterson ends up being really soft.
That's a fair point Jim.
I think he could get as much as 6 million or as little as 4 million. If a team pays more, it would be a 1 year deal and they would have plenty of cap room to just take a gamble. Nobody is going to pay a 32 year old RB coming off season ending surgery like they are counting on him to carry the load. Even if it is Adrian Peterson.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:28 am
by Mothman
fiestavike wrote:That's a fair point Jim.
I think he could get as much as 6 million or as little as 4 million. If a team pays more, it would be a 1 year deal and they would have plenty of cap room to just take a gamble. Nobody is going to pay a 32 year old RB coming off season ending surgery like they are counting on him to carry the load. Even if it is Adrian Peterson.
Agreed.
Adrian set to be a free agent Vikes decline option
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:28 pm
by Maelstrom88
https://www.google.com/amp/profootballt ... tract/amp/
We all knew it was coming. I don't see him returning.
Re: Adrian set to be a free agent Vikes decline option
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:30 pm
by Boon
yep, clears up 17 mil though, give or take
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:37 pm
by halfgiz
With that, Jerick McKinnon, C.J. Ham and Bishop Sankey are the only Vikings backs under contract in 2017.
Vikings declined AP's option. It will give AP and the Vikings a chance to see what his market value is.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:47 pm
by fiestavike
halfgiz wrote:With that, Jerick McKinnon, C.J. Ham and Bishop Sankey are the only Vikings backs under contract in 2017.
Vikings declined AP's option. It will give AP and the Vikings a chance to see what his market value is.
I wonder what Peterson thinks his market value is at this point.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:53 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
So this gives us how much in cap space right now?? Roughly ~$38 million??
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:31 pm
by Raptorman
Pondering Her Percy wrote:So this gives us how much in cap space right now?? Roughly ~$38 million??
Somewhere around $40 million, depending on the source.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:44 pm
by S197
When Peterson entered NFL in 2007, no team had ever used shotgun on more than 50% of plays.
2016 season: shotgun on 79% of passing plays.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:56 pm
by fiestavike
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:31 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
S197 wrote:
Wow. Pretty crazy stat
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:18 pm
by TSonn
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Wow. Pretty crazy stat
Wait, that stat doesn't really mean anything, right? In 2016, if a team passed 50% of the time and ran it the other 50% of the time, wouldn't the the 2007 stat still be true (that shotgun was used on less than 50% of the plays) if teams use shotgun on 79% of passing plays?
It would be a crazy stat if it was 79% of ALL plays in 2016.
Re: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson wants to return, open to pay
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:06 am
by allday1991
Yay we got 40 million we will do nothing with, miss out of the best F/A on the spot we need just to settle for another B- type player like Boone. Because we rebuild through the draft! Another year of a non-existent running game yay! This Franchise better have a few surprises this year after a season like the last...