Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:28 am
S197 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:31 pm
I meant losing someone based on injury. Our corners are young and we lost Griffen because of the cap situation that they decided was the best route for the team. That’s a case of strategy, looking more and more like the wrong one, but that is entirely self-inflicted. They don’t get a pass for that. It was their choice to extend and pay Cousins and several other individuals. Every team has the same cap space, you allocate your resources as you see fit.
The Vikings are in cap hell and have a serious deficiency of talent. That’s squarely on Rick and Zimmer. And Zygi for extending them. We have a top down problem. Until you try and fix the top, you can bring in as many OCs, free agents, former head coaches you want, it won’t make a material difference. They’re just scapegoats to the real problem.
I feel like you're speaking out of pure frustration due to yesterdays loss.
Losing Griffen is a wash given they traded for Ngakoue. If anything, Ngakoue should be better for us long term. I'm not sure why that is looking "more and more like the wrong decision"?
As for the Vikings having a deficiency for talent. I dont entirely agree with that. One spot I will say that is true is at guard and defensive tackle. But nobody can expect rookie CBs to walk right in and be shut down corners against Aaron Rodgers. No less when you have no pass rush due to Hunter being out. This team is still very talented, they are just very young. They are young at WR, young at CB and young in other areas.
Cousins
Cook
Mattison
Thielen
Bisi (as a #3 option)
Rudy/Irv
Oneill
Hunter
Ngakoue
Pierce (even though he opted out)
Kendricks
Barr
Harris
Smith
......that's talent no matter how you want to lay it out. And a lot of it. Add in guys like Jefferson, Gladney, Dantzler, Cleveland, etc. You have to give these guys time and room to grow. You're saying we're severely lacking in talent when #1, the list of talent above proves that to be wrong and #2, these rookies didnt even get a chance to play preseason games and have 1 game of NFL experience under their belt. I'm sorry but that is just an overreaction. Are their "areas" lacking talent. 100%. Like I said, DT and OG. Outside of that, this team has plenty of talent across the board.
If you think it's out of frustration from just this game, you haven't been reading anything I've written since last season. I was already very much strongly against the extensions of Cousins, Zimmer, and Spielman.
When I say, "looking more and more like the wrong decision," I'm not talking about Ngakoue, I'm talking about the decision to put us in cap hell.
As for your list of talent, it's once again padded. Pierce hasn't played a down here. What has Irv done? I think he caught one pass yesterday. And that list seems to change all the time. Prior to the season, I'm pretty sure Hughes and Hill were both given as reasons why the dropoff from Rhodes/Waynes/Alexander might not be so bad. But now they're conveniently left off. And what exactly is the excuse with Hughes? He's in his third year and he's a 1st round pick. A pick that could've gone to a guard like many of us said should have happened 3 years ago. But he was this amazing prospect that Rick/Zimmer had to have, right? And here we are 3 years later with Dakota Dozier and a guy that looks like Asher Allen 2.0.
If I sound frustrated, it's because I am frustrated. But it doesn't stem from one game. It stems from a systemic lack of accountability and inability to put a consistent product on the field.
0-7 against Nagy and Lafluer is not acceptable. Getting embarrassed by the Eagles in the NFCC is not acceptable. Getting embarrassed by the Bears, at home, when they have nothing to play for and we're fighting for a wildcard is not acceptable. Getting embarrassed by the 49ers in the playoffs is not acceptable. I didn't expect them to win all those games, but they should have been competitive. Again, the product that Rick and Zimmer trots out year after year isn't acceptable. I know it is to you, and that's fine, but I'm simply not content with a wildcard team (give or take) year after year. Zygi took the safe approach and so here we are, stuck in this endless feedback look of mediocrity.