Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:14 pm
Cliff wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:51 am
Flip was a big change, that's true.
Still, all it sounds like you're saying to me is the window was firmly shut after 2017 and spending a bunch of money on a good but not elite QB wasn't a good idea.
Right now the defense is more or less in rebuilding mode. The offense lost a major weapon. Will Kirk help the offense overcome those things? Probably not. Whether or not it's his fault is irrelevant, really. By the time this team is ready to compete for a superbowl again we'll be on the hunt for a QB again. Probably a new coaching staff too.
That's not at all what I was saying. Nobody expected a dip in our defense come 2018. But nobody knew Griffen would go off the deep end, Rhodes would go from shutdown to horrendous, nobody expected Elflein to fall off a cliff, nobody expected Berger to retire, nobody expected Cook to go down again, nobody expected Flip to be that horrendous of a play caller and game manager, etc. Luck was not on our sides by any means in 2018. That team was nowhere near the same and a lot of that was unexpected.
As for right now, I dont think you'll see near the dropoff from Diggs to Jefferson as much as some think. And I dont think the defense is rebuilding. The CBs did but outside of that, I can still see us resigning Griff. Pierce is a younger version of Linval. Safeties are still the same. We still have plenty of good foundational pieces there, Hunter, Pierce, Barr, Kendricks, Smith and Harris. A defensive rebuild is when you gut your core and start from scratch. I would say we reloaded on defense, not rebuild.
Hold on a second here.
The passing defense was #3 in yards, #1 in TDs given up in 2018. Identical in yards per game given up to 2017, 2 more passing TDs, but still under 1 per game, and 2 fewer ints. It wasn't quite the pass defense we had in 2017, but it was still really good despite the "horrendous" play of its number 1 CB.
Cook started 7 more games in 2018 versus 2017. He was pretty much a non-factor in 2018, but that is more true in 2017.
The defense had 7 more sacks in 2018 versus 2017. Griffen not being there for a few games hurt the D, especially against LA and Buffalo, but Hunter was a much better pass rusher in 2018 verus 2017 and more than made up for it.
On the
flip side, where you are correct :
The OC was worse
The interior Oline was worse
And...
The QB played worse in 2018 than 2017