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I don't care if they put him on the roster, but can you imagine what would happen if they started him and they lost the playoff game? That would go down as one of the most egregious coaching blunders of all time.


If we lost 41-0? Sure.
If we lost 41-35 in a shootout? Probably not.


Where did you come up with a hypothetical score of 41-0? I'm not aware of ANY conference championship game ever ending with that score. Not one. Nope. Never happened.

Never. Happened.


This is funny because even though I've been a Vikings fan since 1995, I took a few years off where I didn't watch or even follow them (high school years) and so I never saw the 2000 NFCC and didn't even know about it until I started watching again in 2002-2003.


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It would be a MAJOR coaching blunder to switch starting QBs in the playoffs after Keenum has been at the helm since week 2.

I really want to believe that Zimmer and his staff are too smart to do something that colossally stupid with all the marbles on the table and the best defense in the playoffs.

That article was daily norseman, so curious if they are just pontificating or if they have a source. My guess is they are just being stupid.

The original source was a tweet from Courtney Cronin, the ESPN Vikings beat reporter.

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Saw Sam Bradford in the Vikings locker room moments ago. First time I’ve seen him in more than two months.

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Even if Bradford is activated I don't see how he gets back on the field. Bridgewater should be the backup at this point in the season.


If he's activated and (knock on wood) we need a QB change, why wouldnt he get on the field. Teddy hasnt played in over a year and a half. Do you really want him running this offense in the playoffs?? This is why I said earlier in the year that if Teddy didnt play when he was activated, we should've held him out the rest of the year. Which we've done so far but we are now at the point where the playoffs are about to be here and he has no IN GAME experience other than 2 check downs. Hopefully he can get some burn in the next two games but right now, IF Sam is healthy, he needs to be the #2. I feel 100% comfortable with Sam running the show if it ever came down to that in the playoffs. I dont feel that with Teddy

Here's something else.

Sam came in here last year in late August. Fifteen days later -- with an entirely new team, system, coaching staff, terminology, everything -- he was destroying Green Bay. In other words, it didn't take him long to get up to speed.

This time, he's had the entire 2016 season, offseason, preseason, and a couple games to prepare mentally. And it was obvious by his stellar performance against New Orleans that Shurmur's system fit his skills very well.

I'm pretty sure he could be up and running in short order IF (big if) he's healthy.

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This is funny because even though I've been a Vikings fan since 1995, I took a few years off where I didn't watch or even follow them (high school years) and so I never saw the 2000 NFCC and didn't even know about it until I started watching again in 2002-2003.


You saved yourself some pain. :)


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Even if Bradford is activated I don't see how he gets back on the field. Bridgewater should be the backup at this point in the season.


If he's activated and (knock on wood) we need a QB change, why wouldnt he get on the field. Teddy hasnt played in over a year and a half. Do you really want him running this offense in the playoffs?? This is why I said earlier in the year that if Teddy didnt play when he was activated, we should've held him out the rest of the year. Which we've done so far but we are now at the point where the playoffs are about to be here and he has no IN GAME experience other than 2 check downs. Hopefully he can get some burn in the next two games but right now, IF Sam is healthy, he needs to be the #2. I feel 100% comfortable with Sam running the show if it ever came down to that in the playoffs. I dont feel that with Teddy


I guess it depends. If Sam is truly healthy and he's been working with the offense at some level, he'd probably be the guy. On the other hand, Bridgewater has been active for the last several weeks and presumably getting all the backup reps during that time. So in terms of what the coaches know about every QB on the roster at this point, they know more about Bridgewater than Bradford assuming Bradford hasn't been able to take any snaps during his recovery.

But I get where you're coming from and to be honest, the thought of either Bradford or Bridgewater having to step into a playoff game where the Vikings are not blowing their opponent out is a disturbing thought right now. I'm not sure I'd trust either one physically or mentally at this point. Let's hope that situation doesn't occur and Keenum can see this thing through to the end, whatever that may be this year.


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I was at the opening game against the Saints, and Bradford was fantastic. I was also at the Bears game here in Chicago, and Bradford was gawdawful. If Bradford is 100% healthy, his arm is arguably one of the top 3-4 best in the league. I would put him in as Keenum's backup. If he is anything less than 100% healthy, however, I would be afraid of a repeat of the Bears debacle. That first half was one of the worst halves of football I have ever seen.


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I was at the opening game against the Saints, and Bradford was fantastic. I was also at the Bears game here in Chicago, and Bradford was gawdawful. If Bradford is 100% healthy, his arm is arguably one of the top 3-4 best in the league. I would put him in as Keenum's backup. If he is anything less than 100% healthy, however, I would be afraid of a repeat of the Bears debacle. That first half was one of the worst halves of football I have ever seen.
I think Keenum win his teammates over in that Chicago game. He came in and had it not been for a couple of lucky-ass plays by the Bears, the Vikings would have won handily.

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Keenum for sure deserves to start but I agree with Sam being the number two. As for next year I'd let Sam go and draft a QB .

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From what I've seen, I trust Bridgewater's knee more than Bradford's. Won't change my mind until I see Bradford drop back without limitation.

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From what I've seen, I trust Bridgewater's knee more than Bradford's. Won't change my mind until I see Bradford drop back without limitation.
That I will agree with.

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If they put Bradford in for nno other reason then he is supposedly healthy, over Case, I am going to be very upset. Unless Case gets injured, I dont want to see Sam. Even if injured, I think Teddy is more ready to play. Heck we dont even know what was wrong with his knee fully.


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Sam Bradford expected back at practice next week after 8 weeks on injured reserve; Mike Zimmer says his availability for the playoffs will be determined after he practices espn.com/nfl/story/_/id…




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Would they have to waive Sloter though? Can't see them carrying 4 Qs into the playoffs or is it different rules for playoff teams?


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Would they have to waive Sloter though? Can't see them carrying 4 Qs into the playoffs or is it different rules for playoff teams?


They should just have to get down to 53 somehow. I wonder if McDermont sits out this week then is healthy enough to come back they simply waive Overbaugh (who took Easton's place) and use that spot for Bradford.

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I was at the opening game against the Saints, and Bradford was fantastic. I was also at the Bears game here in Chicago, and Bradford was gawdawful. If Bradford is 100% healthy, his arm is arguably one of the top 3-4 best in the league. I would put him in as Keenum's backup. If he is anything less than 100% healthy, however, I would be afraid of a repeat of the Bears debacle. That first half was one of the worst halves of football I have ever seen.



I was the bears game as well! Something seemed off with Bradford that game.


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I was at the opening game against the Saints, and Bradford was fantastic. I was also at the Bears game here in Chicago, and Bradford was gawdawful. If Bradford is 100% healthy, his arm is arguably one of the top 3-4 best in the league. I would put him in as Keenum's backup. If he is anything less than 100% healthy, however, I would be afraid of a repeat of the Bears debacle. That first half was one of the worst halves of football I have ever seen.



I was the bears game as well! Something seemed off with Bradford that game.


In addition to his knee issues, he got sacked and the back of his head hit the ground HARD... Pretty sure he had a concussion. Coaches should have pulled him out immediately, but he played a few more series.

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Forgot to mention they have 3 weeks to decide when he starts practice. So we have some time to make a decision.

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Forgot to mention they have 3 weeks to decide when he starts practice. So we have some time to make a decision.
They can decide earlier than rhat right?

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Forgot to mention they have 3 weeks to decide when he starts practice. So we have some time to make a decision.
They can decide earlier than rhat right?

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Yep. Any time during that window.

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Sam has some unique skill sets, quite frankly it is the only reason why he is still in the NFL commanding that type of money.

I would rest easier knowing if Case gets hurt, Sam will come in and relieve him. I'm not going to give him excuses about being rusty, I expect the Vikings to win if he gets in.


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If we see Sam coming in, odds are we either blew the other team out, or they blew us out. And I would bet its the latter. Why would they put Sam in over Teddy, who has been practicing for the past month?


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If we see Sam coming in, odds are we either blew the other team out, or they blew us out. And I would bet its the latter. Why would they put Sam in over Teddy, who has been practicing for the past month?

Sam is the better QB. And if I was being honest, skill set wise, he's better then Case.

Playoffs are win or you're out. I would trust Bradford's skill sets over Bridewater's 2 month's practice. And again, I won't use the excuse of Sam's rustiness. I expect Vikings to win if he gets in.


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I hope we can agree that our dilemma is that we have 3 QBs that are potential starters for most NFL teams and as a whole, we are a tad bit indecisive on who can take us to the trophy.


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I hope we can agree that our dilemma is that we have 3 QBs that are potential starters for most NFL teams and as a whole, we are a tad bit indecisive on who can take us to the trophy.


I'm not. Case has showed he can get the job done. Sam isn't 'healed'. I doubt anyone really knows what happened, except he has a BAD knee. Why hurt what we have with Case to even have a debate as to who is going to be the QB in the playoffs, because thats what its going to come down to. Case is calm under pressure, a leader. I was skeptical of him at first, as most of us were, but he has shown he can play in big games, if he has a little protection. He doesnt deserve to be yanked. I have zero hope in Sam. I dont see him coming on the field to do anything good, and Case is going to have him in the back of his mind, its natural. Lets case finish what he started, not Sam and not Teddy.


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I attended spring training camp in Mankato this year and you could really see Keenum's competitiveness and drive. Sam didn't seem to have it. Something just didn't seem right. I think healthwise Sam is an NFL bust, there were a number of us in the stands talking about this and commenting on the possiblity of Keenum rising in the ranks. We all agreed that Sam was too gangly and didn't really have the physique that would protect him from big hits.

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I attended spring training camp in Mankato this year and you could really see Keenum's competitiveness and drive. Sam didn't seem to have it. Something just didn't seem right. I think healthwise Sam is an NFL bust, there were a number of us in the stands talking about this and commenting on the possiblity of Keenum rising in the ranks. We all agreed that Sam was too gangly and didn't really have the physique that would protect him from big hits.


I mean his problems have always been his knees. I'm not sure being bulkier would really do much to prevent that.

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I attended spring training camp in Mankato this year and you could really see Keenum's competitiveness and drive. Sam didn't seem to have it. Something just didn't seem right. I think healthwise Sam is an NFL bust, there were a number of us in the stands talking about this and commenting on the possiblity of Keenum rising in the ranks. We all agreed that Sam was too gangly and didn't really have the physique that would protect him from big hits.


I mean his problems have always been his knees. I'm not sure being bulkier would really do much to prevent that.


It's obviously too late now, but at a younger age some lower body strengthening would definitely help to not only strengthen tendons/ligaments/joints but would also add some protection.

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I attended spring training camp in Mankato this year and you could really see Keenum's competitiveness and drive. Sam didn't seem to have it. Something just didn't seem right. I think healthwise Sam is an NFL bust, there were a number of us in the stands talking about this and commenting on the possiblity of Keenum rising in the ranks. We all agreed that Sam was too gangly and didn't really have the physique that would protect him from big hits.


I mean his problems have always been his knees. I'm not sure being bulkier would really do much to prevent that.


It's obviously too late now, but at a younger age some lower body strengthening would definitely help to not only strengthen tendons/ligaments/joints but would also add some protection.


Not to belabor the point but how do we know he doesn't or didn't have a good lower body workout? I don't know if his lower body is any less strong than guys like Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, etc.

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Yeah, that's definitely unfair to say and mostly conjecture. Some people for whatever are more susceptible to knee injuries. Injuries in general, really.


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It's obviously too late now, but at a younger age some lower body strengthening would definitely help to not only strengthen tendons/ligaments/joints but would also add some protection.


Not to belabor the point but how do we know he doesn't or didn't have a good lower body workout? I don't know if his lower body is any less strong than guys like Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, etc.
I can't speak to his workouts or work ethic obviously, but I feel like if you look at his legs they are thinner than the other guys you mentioned. He's always had a weird body type/gait in my opinion, so even if it hs nothing to do with his effort, I think the gangliness (I made that word up) is there.


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