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Really sucks.

We've grown accustomed to the Vikings NOT doing the things they did today.

• 5 drops, including two consecutive in the end zone by Thielen.
• Untimely penalties -- two consecutive facemasks.
• Poor play coming out of the locker room at halftime.
• Missed tackles.
• Interceptions.
• Getting absolutely gashed in the running game.

And still we had this game tied after trailing by 11 late. Lot of fight in this team. Unfortunately, we beat ourselves.

The injuries along the offensive line are very disconcerting. Elflein missing this game really hurt the team. If Reiff is out for any length of time, it's going to be tough. I get so tired of our team always losing its offensive linemen. Especially true this season ... they're really good when they're all healthy, and we have good depth. Just hard to overcome the loss of 3 out of 5 starters.

Cam is a TERRIBLE passer. Wow. I'd actually welcome facing the Panthers in the playoffs, especially at home.

Onward and upward. Let's get better at home against a pretty bad Bengals team.


I'm glad you said that about Cam because I have always felt the same way. IMO, he's one of the most overrated QBs in the game today. No less I cant stand his antics. His career completion percentage is around 58% which is awful. He has no touch or accuracy on a lot of his passes. He just throws it as hard as he can and hopes someone comes down with it. Has a 17:12 TD to INT ratio which isnt great. But he can run so he's good :roll: Give me a break

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It was ugly. Guys couldn't hold on to the ball (which resulted in an INT in one case), we missed the offensive line starters a *lot* and it really goes to show just how important that is in general and was last year. This team could have easily been a Super Bowl contender last year had the line held up. How about that first bomb from Case? That was uggggllly. It really goes to enforce the view that his long ball is awful.

The defense was ugly against the run. Seemed like they spent quarters 1-3 selling out to stop Cam at the expense of other players. Then when they stopped doing that Cam burned them. Of course those face mask penalties didn't help. The sack going away especially hurt.

We really need our offensive line healthy down the stretch. We are not a super bowl caliber team without them - especially Elflein. The running game was basically nothing with the injuries to the oline.

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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Really sucks.

We've grown accustomed to the Vikings NOT doing the things they did today.

• 5 drops, including two consecutive in the end zone by Thielen.
• Untimely penalties -- two consecutive facemasks.
• Poor play coming out of the locker room at halftime.
• Missed tackles.
• Interceptions.
• Getting absolutely gashed in the running game.

And still we had this game tied after trailing by 11 late. Lot of fight in this team. Unfortunately, we beat ourselves.

The injuries along the offensive line are very disconcerting. Elflein missing this game really hurt the team. If Reiff is out for any length of time, it's going to be tough. I get so tired of our team always losing its offensive linemen. Especially true this season ... they're really good when they're all healthy, and we have good depth. Just hard to overcome the loss of 3 out of 5 starters.

Cam is a TERRIBLE passer. Wow. I'd actually welcome facing the Panthers in the playoffs, especially at home.

Onward and upward. Let's get better at home against a pretty bad Bengals team.


I'm glad you said that about Cam because I have always felt the same way. IMO, he's one of the most overrated QBs in the game today. No less I cant stand his antics. His career completion percentage is around 58% which is awful. He has no touch or accuracy on a lot of his passes. He just throws it as hard as he can and hopes someone comes down with it. Has a 17:12 TD to INT ratio which isnt great. But he can run so he's good :roll: Give me a break

I'd be more worried about the Rams or Eagles or Saints in the playoffs than Carolina because they have actual passers at quarterback (well, the Eagles did). Cam got the benefit of a lot of bad play by the Vikings yesterday, in the form of untimely penalties, missed gap assignments, and Vikings drops. He was terrible except for two plays ... the touchdown to Funchess and the long run at the end of the game. Otherwise, Cam was awful. Talk about ball placement -- Cam misses the area code.

But hey, he's the 2015 MVP, so there you go.

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Did the Vikings get any turnovers?

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Also, how did Carolina get the ball back so quick after their last TD?

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OL injuries are my biggest concern going forward.

They laid an egg. Statistically when a team plays three road games in a row, the 3rd one often is a disaster. We just had ours. It happens. Like someone above said: WR making uncharacteristic mistakes, the Defense blowing gap integrity, Facemask penalties, etc. are all things that an opposing team cannot replicate. We beat ourselves in Charlotte.

Consider that we gave up 3 turnovers yesterday, yet we were maybe 3 plays from winning.
If Rudolph catches that seam route in the first half it is probably 3 points. If Thielen doesn't drop the first pass in the red zone (which he normally doesn't do) that is 6 points. Those two alone win the game. One of the picks was off of a poor play by Diggs. There are more. Even Romo talked about it, how the game was about 2-3 plays.

Let's see if they can right the ship on Sunday. The silver lining is that with both ATL and CAR winning yesterday it is going to be even harder for the Packers to make the playoffs. They are going to be competing against ATL, CAR, and either SEA or LAR for the spots. DET is in the mix also. Packers are on the outside looking in. They also need to play us again.

@The guy saying our run defense bad: Through 12 games the Vikings D had not allowed a single 100 yard rusher, and that collection includes Bell in Pittsburgh. We played poorly yesterday, but we are not a bad defense.

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OL injuries are my biggest concern going forward.

They laid an egg. Statistically when a team plays three road games in a row, the 3rd one often is a disaster. We just had ours. It happens. Like someone above said: WR making uncharacteristic mistakes, the Defense blowing gap integrity, Facemask penalties, etc. are all things that an opposing team cannot replicate. We beat ourselves in Charlotte.

Consider that we gave up 3 turnovers yesterday, yet we were maybe 3 plays from winning.
If Rudolph catches that seam route in the first half it is probably 3 points. If Thielen doesn't drop the first pass in the red zone (which he normally doesn't do) that is 6 points. Those two alone win the game. One of the picks was off of a poor play by Diggs. There are more. Even Romo talked about it, how the game was about 2-3 plays.

Let's see if they can right the ship on Sunday. The silver lining is that with both ATL and CAR winning yesterday it is going to be even harder for the Packers to make the playoffs. They are going to be competing against ATL, CAR, and either SEA or LAR for the spots. DET is in the mix also. Packers are on the outside looking in. They also need to play us again.

@The guy saying our run defense bad: Through 12 games the Vikings D had not allowed a single 100 yard rusher, and that collection includes Bell in Pittsburgh. We played poorly yesterday, but we are not a bad defense.

Let's be real here.

We gave up 122 rushing yards on two plays. The rest of the game, we gave up 94 yards on 34 carries (2.8 YPA), and 137 yards passing. Cam had a 64 passer rating. This was not like they were gashing us repeatedly, and don't tell me our defense stinks because of this game.

You're right. This loss came down to a handful of plays. We didn't make them. It sucks, but one loss does not spell doom for the season.

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I'd be more worried about the Rams or Eagles or Saints in the playoffs than Carolina because they have actual passers at quarterback (well, the Eagles did). Cam got the benefit of a lot of bad play by the Vikings yesterday, in the form of untimely penalties, missed gap assignments, and Vikings drops. He was terrible except for two plays ... the touchdown to Funchess and the long run at the end of the game. Otherwise, Cam was awful. Talk about ball placement -- Cam misses the area code.

But hey, he's the 2015 MVP, so there you go.


Exactly so everyone still crowns him like he's an MVP. Not anymore. Far from it. Like I said, he's overrated and I'm sick of his antics and dancing around like an idiot. I really hope we meet them again at our place in the playoffs and hand him a beating

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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
I'd be more worried about the Rams or Eagles or Saints in the playoffs than Carolina because they have actual passers at quarterback (well, the Eagles did). Cam got the benefit of a lot of bad play by the Vikings yesterday, in the form of untimely penalties, missed gap assignments, and Vikings drops. He was terrible except for two plays ... the touchdown to Funchess and the long run at the end of the game. Otherwise, Cam was awful. Talk about ball placement -- Cam misses the area code.

But hey, he's the 2015 MVP, so there you go.


Exactly so everyone still crowns him like he's an MVP. Not anymore. Far from it. Like I said, he's overrated and I'm sick of his antics and dancing around like an idiot. I really hope we meet them again at our place in the playoffs and hand him a beating

And yet ... Good Morning Football declared the Panthers the "scariest" team in the playoff picture. Why? Because other than Drew Brees, they say, Cam is the best quarterback left playing among likely playoff teams in the NFC.

It sucks. Good Morning Football, I mean. I really like that show normally (mostly because I'm in love with Kay Adams, but I digress). Knock on them today.

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OL injuries are my biggest concern going forward.

They laid an egg. Statistically when a team plays three road games in a row, the 3rd one often is a disaster. We just had ours. It happens. Like someone above said: WR making uncharacteristic mistakes, the Defense blowing gap integrity, Facemask penalties, etc. are all things that an opposing team cannot replicate. We beat ourselves in Charlotte.

Consider that we gave up 3 turnovers yesterday, yet we were maybe 3 plays from winning.
If Rudolph catches that seam route in the first half it is probably 3 points. If Thielen doesn't drop the first pass in the red zone (which he normally doesn't do) that is 6 points. Those two alone win the game. One of the picks was off of a poor play by Diggs. There are more. Even Romo talked about it, how the game was about 2-3 plays.

Let's see if they can right the ship on Sunday. The silver lining is that with both ATL and CAR winning yesterday it is going to be even harder for the Packers to make the playoffs. They are going to be competing against ATL, CAR, and either SEA or LAR for the spots. DET is in the mix also. Packers are on the outside looking in. They also need to play us again.

@The guy saying our run defense bad: Through 12 games the Vikings D had not allowed a single 100 yard rusher, and that collection includes Bell in Pittsburgh. We played poorly yesterday, but we are not a bad defense.


Well said! There are a lot of fans out there freaking out thinking a collapse is coming, so on and so forth. I dont buy it. We lost a road game by 7 to an 8-4 team and fans are acting like the world is ending. The only thing concerning to me is Reiff. Maybe Forbath a bit but Reiff mostly. I think Elflein is back. Hill at RT is tolerable. Reiff is a massive blow because it changes up our entire front.

And like I said before regarding our defense, I get so sick of hearing fans say "Great/Elite defense just dont play like that". YES THEY DO. The 2000 Ravens gave up 36 points to the Jags in week 2. Brunell threw for 386 and Jimmy Smith had 15 catches for 291 and 3 TDs. NOBODY has came anywhere near that against this defense. So please, spare me with that argument because it's not true that elite defense dont play like that so stop saying it!!!

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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
I'd be more worried about the Rams or Eagles or Saints in the playoffs than Carolina because they have actual passers at quarterback (well, the Eagles did). Cam got the benefit of a lot of bad play by the Vikings yesterday, in the form of untimely penalties, missed gap assignments, and Vikings drops. He was terrible except for two plays ... the touchdown to Funchess and the long run at the end of the game. Otherwise, Cam was awful. Talk about ball placement -- Cam misses the area code.

But hey, he's the 2015 MVP, so there you go.


Exactly so everyone still crowns him like he's an MVP. Not anymore. Far from it. Like I said, he's overrated and I'm sick of his antics and dancing around like an idiot. I really hope we meet them again at our place in the playoffs and hand him a beating

And yet ... Good Morning Football declared the Panthers the "scariest" team in the playoff picture. Why? Because other than Drew Brees, they say, Cam is the best quarterback left playing among likely playoff teams in the NFC.

It sucks. Good Morning Football, I mean. I really like that show normally (mostly because I'm in love with Kay Adams, but I digress). Knock on them today.


Cam is the best QB other than Brees :lol: :lol: I take Goff, Ryan, Wilson and Keenum all over that bum.

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Reiff is a huge concern, hopefully it is a short term deal. If they implode against CIN then it is time to panic.

Wentz going down is interesting. Everyone is saying Foles will be this great thing, but we shall see.

Kapp I wasn't arguing for the guys beating down on our defense. I was agreeing that one bad game does not equal a crisis.


PIT looked vulnerable last night. Their defense is not nearly as fast without #50. They are going to have problems against teams that cna get to the edge and defense their passing attack.

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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
mansquatch wrote:
OL injuries are my biggest concern going forward.

They laid an egg. Statistically when a team plays three road games in a row, the 3rd one often is a disaster. We just had ours. It happens. Like someone above said: WR making uncharacteristic mistakes, the Defense blowing gap integrity, Facemask penalties, etc. are all things that an opposing team cannot replicate. We beat ourselves in Charlotte.

Consider that we gave up 3 turnovers yesterday, yet we were maybe 3 plays from winning.
If Rudolph catches that seam route in the first half it is probably 3 points. If Thielen doesn't drop the first pass in the red zone (which he normally doesn't do) that is 6 points. Those two alone win the game. One of the picks was off of a poor play by Diggs. There are more. Even Romo talked about it, how the game was about 2-3 plays.

Let's see if they can right the ship on Sunday. The silver lining is that with both ATL and CAR winning yesterday it is going to be even harder for the Packers to make the playoffs. They are going to be competing against ATL, CAR, and either SEA or LAR for the spots. DET is in the mix also. Packers are on the outside looking in. They also need to play us again.

@The guy saying our run defense bad: Through 12 games the Vikings D had not allowed a single 100 yard rusher, and that collection includes Bell in Pittsburgh. We played poorly yesterday, but we are not a bad defense.

Let's be real here.

We gave up 122 rushing yards on two plays. The rest of the game, we gave up 94 yards on 34 carries (2.8 YPA), and 137 yards passing. Cam had a 64 passer rating. This was not like they were gashing us repeatedly, and don't tell me our defense stinks because of this game.

You're right. This loss came down to a handful of plays. We didn't make them. It sucks, but one loss does not spell doom for the season.


Panthers was 5-15 on 3rd down. Which isn't to good.
It's the 2 big plays that hurt us...Was that because missed assignments or missed tackles.
Early on the facemask penalties also hurt us.


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It's confirmed. Torn ACL for Wentz

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Not one holding penalty in this game. Has this ever happened before?

I wondered about this too. How was there no holding penalties with two very good defensive fronts playing?

Also, just an observation on Treadwell:

2016 NFL WR Draft picks 2017 stats
Pick # 15 Corey Coleman.......20-268-2
Pick # 21 Will Fuller.............20-352-7
Pick # 22 Josh Doctson.........27-388-5
Pick # 23 Laquon Treadwell...17-184-0


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At this point I dont even like hearing Treadwell's name, hes starting to become like Ponder to me. He should be as big of an endzone threat as Kyle, but they rarely target him. He is too slow and cant run routes.


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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
mansquatch wrote:
OL injuries are my biggest concern going forward.

They laid an egg. Statistically when a team plays three road games in a row, the 3rd one often is a disaster. We just had ours. It happens. Like someone above said: WR making uncharacteristic mistakes, the Defense blowing gap integrity, Facemask penalties, etc. are all things that an opposing team cannot replicate. We beat ourselves in Charlotte.

Consider that we gave up 3 turnovers yesterday, yet we were maybe 3 plays from winning.
If Rudolph catches that seam route in the first half it is probably 3 points. If Thielen doesn't drop the first pass in the red zone (which he normally doesn't do) that is 6 points. Those two alone win the game. One of the picks was off of a poor play by Diggs. There are more. Even Romo talked about it, how the game was about 2-3 plays.

Let's see if they can right the ship on Sunday. The silver lining is that with both ATL and CAR winning yesterday it is going to be even harder for the Packers to make the playoffs. They are going to be competing against ATL, CAR, and either SEA or LAR for the spots. DET is in the mix also. Packers are on the outside looking in. They also need to play us again.

@The guy saying our run defense bad: Through 12 games the Vikings D had not allowed a single 100 yard rusher, and that collection includes Bell in Pittsburgh. We played poorly yesterday, but we are not a bad defense.

Let's be real here.

We gave up 122 rushing yards on two plays. The rest of the game, we gave up 94 yards on 34 carries (2.8 YPA), and 137 yards passing. Cam had a 64 passer rating. This was not like they were gashing us repeatedly, and don't tell me our defense stinks because of this game.

You're right. This loss came down to a handful of plays. We didn't make them. It sucks, but one loss does not spell doom for the season.


Panthers was 5-15 on 3rd down. Which isn't to good.
It's the 2 big plays that hurt us...Was that because missed assignments or missed tackles.
Early on the facemask penalties also hurt us.

Both.

On Stewart's run, Anthony Barr overpursued and lost gap integrity.

On Cam's run, Sendejo totally whiffed, but Barr also overpursued again and allowed himself to get blocked by (gulp) Matt Kalil.

Anthony Barr has definitely had better games.

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808vikingsfan wrote:
Not one holding penalty in this game. Has this ever happened before?

I wondered about this too. How was there no holding penalties with two very good defensive fronts playing?

Also, just an observation on Treadwell:

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Pick # 15 Corey Coleman.......20-268-2
Pick # 21 Will Fuller.............20-352-7
Pick # 22 Josh Doctson.........27-388-5
Pick # 23 Laquon Treadwell...17-184-0


I remember hoping Josh Doctson would fall to the Vikings.


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At this point I dont even like hearing Treadwell's name, hes starting to become like Ponder to me. He should be as big of an endzone threat as Kyle, but they rarely target him. He is too slow and cant run routes.


Too slow and cant run routes?? And your sources are? Clearly what I said regarding him earlier went completely over your head. He was completely wide open vs Washington in the red zone and toasted his guy on a double move vs. Baltimore. Those are ones I just saw at the time they happened. I'm sure there are alot more. It's not his fault they dont throw to him. Keenum is looking at 3 others options (Thielen, Diggs and Rudy) before Laquon. So do you really expect them to be targeted. I will say, I can tell you have zero idea what a bust actually is. No less you just put Treadwell's name in the same sentence as Ponder.

Ponder was given PLENTY of opportunity to perform. And failed. Where is Laquons opportunity when he has Thielen and Diggs in front of him???? Please tell me. I mean the two games Diggs was out he went 7 for 79 yards. But where and when is he suppose to get targets when there are 3 stud pass catchers in front of him. Can you really not see that?? Because you seem oblivious to it. I'll admit when guys are busts. Ponder was a bust. But to say Treadwell is when he's been given very little opportunity is an absolute joke. You take nothing into consideration but just love throwing the word bust out there and saying how "he's slow and cant run routes". Your source.... nothing

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720pete wrote:
808vikingsfan wrote:
Not one holding penalty in this game. Has this ever happened before?

I wondered about this too. How was there no holding penalties with two very good defensive fronts playing?

Also, just an observation on Treadwell:

2016 NFL WR Draft picks 2017 stats
Pick # 15 Corey Coleman.......20-268-2
Pick # 21 Will Fuller.............20-352-7
Pick # 22 Josh Doctson.........27-388-5
Pick # 23 Laquon Treadwell...17-184-0


Again, Washington, Cleveland and Houston all have awful WRs outside of Hopkins. So again, who do those guys have to compete with?? Nobody. Who does Treadwell have? Thielen and Diggs. They are all drawing #1/#2 targets every game. Treadwell draws less than both our top WRs and obviously Rudy. So he's seeing around the 4th most targets of anyone. The guys above are all seeing top 2. HUGE difference

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At this point I dont even like hearing Treadwell's name, hes starting to become like Ponder to me. He should be as big of an endzone threat as Kyle, but they rarely target him. He is too slow and cant run routes.


Too slow and cant run routes?? And your sources are? Clearly what I said regarding him earlier went completely over your head


Yeah Im just too stupid to understand your excuses for him.


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At this point I dont even like hearing Treadwell's name, hes starting to become like Ponder to me. He should be as big of an endzone threat as Kyle, but they rarely target him. He is too slow and cant run routes.


Too slow and cant run routes?? And your sources are? Clearly what I said regarding him earlier went completely over your head


Yeah Im just too stupid to understand your excuses for him.


I'm starting to think that. I mean I'm giving you FACTS that you refuse to take into consideration. You never address them. You just continue to complain. But I'm "giving excuses" and you're providing the "facts" by saying he's "slow and cant run routes" according to your unnamed source. Makes total sense :confused:

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Both.

On Stewart's run, Anthony Barr overpursued and lost gap integrity.

On Cam's run, Sendejo totally whiffed, but Barr also overpursued again and allowed himself to get blocked by (gulp) Matt Kalil.

Anthony Barr has definitely had better games.


IIRC, on Stewarts run, Sendejo was the lone safety, and he followed Cam after the hand off then was not able to get back to tackle Stewart. On Cams run it looked like Barr got held pretty egregiously. Not an excuse.

Most of my reactions are already covered throughout this thread.

One play that stood out to me was on a 2nd down scramble by Keenum, where instead of continuing forward and running for or diving for a first down, he slowed up to do a pump fake 5 yards pass the line of scrimmage and ended up getting caught from behind by Captain. This led to a 3rd and 2 that we did not convert. Had he just dove the last two yards that would have bought us 3 more downs on that drive.

We lost, but despite all that went wrong for us we kept clawing ourselves back in it. Its very rare for 10+ things to go wrong in one game, a couple fewer things go wrong and we most likely win that game. Being able to fight through adversity and keep ourselves in it until the very end is a good quality to have going into the playoffs.

Hopefully Reiff is alright. At this point (whether we won or lost yesterday) I expect us to win out our last 3 games and still enter the playoffs with a first round bye.

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Both.

On Stewart's run, Anthony Barr overpursued and lost gap integrity.

On Cam's run, Sendejo totally whiffed, but Barr also overpursued again and allowed himself to get blocked by (gulp) Matt Kalil.

Anthony Barr has definitely had better games.


IIRC, on Stewarts run, Sendejo was the lone safety, and he followed Cam after the hand off then was able to get back to tackle Stewart. .

You may be referencing a different run. When Stewart scored a TD on a 61 yard run, Sendejo went towards Cam to the opposite side of the field and was completely out of the play

Sendejo(#34) is last line of the defense right at the 50 and goes to his right towards Cam as stewart blows by him on his left side. Sendejo is nowhere close to making even an attempted tackle. Sendejo really bit on the play fake there and as the last guy, I do think he maybe should have stayed more center there, but don't know what his specific assignment is. Maybe he was supposed to really focus on shadowing cam
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There are quite a few members of the Vikings D that had bad games, and Sendejo was one of them. Barr was another but Im getting kind of used to that by now. I thought Kendricks had a good day, but he too wasnt perfect. One of these days Barr has GOT to stop over pursing. Its happening quite a few times a game. And the people that aernt worried about Forbath, why? Dont you remember Walsh. Its the exact same story. He went from hitting everything, to not being able to make chip shots. Thats all in kickers heads.


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There are quite a few members of the Vikings D that had bad games, and Sendejo was one of them. Barr was another but Im getting kind of used to that by now. I thought Kendricks had a good day, but he too wasnt perfect. One of these days Barr has GOT to stop over pursing. Its happening quite a few times a game. And the people that aernt worried about Forbath, why? Dont you remember Walsh. Its the exact same story. He went from hitting everything, to not being able to make chip shots. Thats all in kickers heads.


Since when did missing a 54 yard FG classify as missing a "chip shot"??

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I mentioned this in the game thread but it should be repeated. The last time a team won 3 consecutive road games against .500+ teams was in the 1960's. It was a tough stretch and the Vikings didn't come out that badly. It does suck when a team beats themselves but absent long-term injuries, I think we'll be okay. Honestly, rest Reiff and Elflein as long as needed so they're good to go for the playoffs. We should be able to beat Cin, GB, and Chi down a guy or two.


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J. Kapp 11 wrote:
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On Stewart's run, Anthony Barr overpursued and lost gap integrity.

On Cam's run, Sendejo totally whiffed, but Barr also overpursued again and allowed himself to get blocked by (gulp) Matt Kalil.

Anthony Barr has definitely had better games.

Pretty sure that first one was on kendricks.


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Reiff is a huge concern, hopefully it is a short term deal. If they implode against CIN then it is time to panic.



Pretty sure the reasonpeople are freaking out is we have all seen this before.

I have grown numb to this teams shenanigans. I told my coworker "watch garbage #### cincy come into minn and blow us out".

Do i expect a flat, bs show? Absolutely. Do i want one? No. But we have seen this before. I was a bag of salt yesterday. For starters i dont think carolina is that good. This should have been a win. Like someone else said the game came down to essentially 2 plays. Rest of the game was a tossup. But AGAIN, here we go. Green bay lingering around, talk of rodgers returning. Dont even get me started on him, i am so sick of that dude its not even funny and the last thing i want minnesota to do is have to face him in a playoff game, even at home.

But everything is just setting itself up for a letdown yet again. Every team we needed to win yesterday, lost.same thing will happen in the last three games. Im just tired of setting myself up for letdowns. I expect it now. As well as alot of other folks. An overreaction is one thing, like regarding a player who has a bad game , omg cut him, etc.... But when people seem a bit unsupportive given the decades of letdowns, i dont blame them, im in the same boat


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At this point I dont even like hearing Treadwell's name, hes starting to become like Ponder to me. He should be as big of an endzone threat as Kyle, but they rarely target him. He is too slow and cant run routes.


I agree, and he's getting more snaps than Michael Floyd. I don't get it.

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