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Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by dead_poet » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:11 pm

So apparently having good offensive linemen is still important.

Vikes giving up chunk runs.

Case came back down to Earth.

Hopefully none of the injuries (Reiff specifically) are significant.
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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by S197 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:14 pm

Dropped balls, big penalties, turnovers, D gave up big plays, decimated O-line, hack kicker.

And we still lost by only a TD.

It was a brutal road schedule, just need to pick themselves up and hope some of these guys can come back from their injuries.

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Post by VikingLord » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:18 pm

S197 wrote:Dropped balls, big penalties, turnovers, D gave up big plays, decimated O-line, hack kicker.

And we still lost by only a TD.

It was a brutal road schedule, just need to pick themselves up and hope some of these guys can come back from their injuries.
Fundamentally solid defenses just don't give up plays like the Vikings defense gave up today. Either this is that one 1-in-a-100 bad games for the defense, or they're really susceptible to simple inside running plays.

I'd go with the former given nobody has done anything like that to them so far, but maybe the Panthers found a way that can be replicated and we'll see it replicated going forward.

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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by VikingLord » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:19 pm

S197 wrote:Dropped balls, big penalties, turnovers, D gave up big plays, decimated O-line, hack kicker.

And we still lost by only a TD.

It was a brutal road schedule, just need to pick themselves up and hope some of these guys can come back from their injuries.
Also, the offense has the injury excuse. The defense doesn't.

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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by dead_poet » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:22 pm

Of course the Browns have to Browns so Rodgers will be back next week.

We'll have to fight for every yard, won't we. Ugh.
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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:24 pm

VikingLord wrote: Fundamentally solid defenses just don't give up plays like the Vikings defense gave up today. Either this is that one 1-in-a-100 bad games for the defense, or they're really susceptible to simple inside running plays.

I'd go with the former given nobody has done anything like that to them so far, but maybe the Panthers found a way that can be replicated and we'll see it replicated going forward.
I’ve said this before, it happens. Look at the 2000 Ravens. Just because we have one bad defensive game doesn’t mean this defense isn’t an elite defense. I don’t buy the “good defenses just don’t do that”. Yeah they do. Look it up. We didn’t play well but we fought. I’m not worried. I’m more worried about the OL than anything. The defense should be the least of our worries
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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by Purple Domination » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:24 pm

3rd road game often results in let downs. Hopefully that’s all it was. Reiff and Elflein returning to the lineup will be key.

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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by dead_poet » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:25 pm

@christomasson Riley Reiff ankle is in a boot Left without comment
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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by PurpleMustReign » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:25 pm

Well we were all waiting for the other shoe to fall. I think the injury bug is finally here for us. Our OL is maybe in shambles now.
The defense has been healthy, but this is the third game in the last four or five where they just stop anyone.

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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by TSonn » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:25 pm

I don't mind the loss but if Reiff is out for the season, we're probably done. Keenum didn't necessarily lose this game but he sure could have won it with a few better placed balls.

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Post by S197 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:27 pm

Honestly Forbath is my main worry right now. These games are going to be tight and you need a reliable guy who can at least make a 50 yard FG look respectable. We need to grab a guy from the CFL, not let Priefer talk to him at all, and hope for the best.

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Post by 808vikingsfan » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:35 pm

Watching the Newton run replay, what was Griffen doing?
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Post by A.D_blazing » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:39 pm

TSonn wrote:I don't mind the loss but if Reiff is out for the season, we're probably done. Keenum didn't necessarily lose this game but he sure could have won it with a few better placed balls.
Amen...If R. Reif is out next week then the oline wont be the same, and Keenum will show us what he's really made of.

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Post by Boon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:42 pm

VikingLord wrote: Fundamentally solid defenses just don't give up plays like the Vikings defense gave up today. Either this is that one 1-in-a-100 bad games for the defense, or they're really susceptible to simple inside running plays.

I'd go with the former given nobody has done anything like that to them so far, but maybe the Panthers found a way that can be replicated and we'll see it replicated going forward.
Opposing teams cant replicate drops, facemask penalties and shanked field goals

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Post by VikingLord » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:42 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote: I’ve said this before, it happens. Look at the 2000 Ravens. Just because we have one bad defensive game doesn’t mean this defense isn’t an elite defense. I don’t buy the “good defenses just don’t do that”. Yeah they do. Look it up. We didn’t play well but we fought. I’m not worried. I’m more worried about the OL than anything. The defense should be the least of our worries
I agree the offensive line is easily going to be the biggest factor going forward.

But I'm still worried about the defense for some reason. They looked unprepared.

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Post by VikingLord » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:46 pm

dead_poet wrote: Vikes giving up chunk runs.
216 total rushing yards given up today with a 6.0 yards per carry average.

That is eye-watering bad.

Vikes better focus on getting that buttoned up or it's going to be a long December and a short January.

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Post by 808vikingsfan » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:47 pm

Not one holding penalty in this game. Has this ever happened before?
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Post by DavidKarki » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:48 pm

S197 wrote:Honestly Forbath is my main worry right now. These games are going to be tight and you need a reliable guy who can at least make a 50 yard FG look respectable. We need to grab a guy from the CFL, not let Priefer talk to him at all, and hope for the best.
The Panthers got a piece of that ball on the kick...CBS replay was clear on that. So the same issues we saw at Detroit on Thanksgiving, likely made worse by O-line injuries, crop up again.

I'm not saying I fully trust Forbath...merely that the FG blocking has been shaky as of late as well. And the O-line injuries will only cause that to fester all the more.
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Post by PurpleMustReign » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:48 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote: I’ve said this before, it happens. Look at the 2000 Ravens. Just because we have one bad defensive game doesn’t mean this defense isn’t an elite defense. I don’t buy the “good defenses just don’t do that”. Yeah they do. Look it up. We didn’t play well but we fought. I’m not worried. I’m more worried about the OL than anything. The defense should be the least of our worries
But this is the third time it has happened. They couldn't stop Washington, Detroit, and now Carolina. I don't understand why Zimmer isn't blitzing more. I get we are getting pressure, but we need to hit the QB. It seems like something is missing right now.

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Re: Week 14 Reaction Thread

Post by halfgiz » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:48 pm

S197 wrote:Honestly Forbath is my main worry right now. These games are going to be tight and you need a reliable guy who can at least make a 50 yard FG look respectable. We need to grab a guy from the CFL, not let Priefer talk to him at all, and hope for the best.
I agree I kind of feel Forbath is the weak link. That FG miss didn't loose the game for us, but it hurt.

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Post by Knoxx » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:05 pm

S197 wrote:Honestly Forbath is my main worry right now. These games are going to be tight and you need a reliable guy who can at least make a 50 yard FG look respectable. We need to grab a guy from the CFL, not let Priefer talk to him at all, and hope for the best.
Would settle for a guy that you could rely on at 35 yards

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Post by 808vikingsfan » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:10 pm

dead_poet wrote: pleasebeprecautionary

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Post by PurpleKoolaid » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:22 pm

S197 wrote:Honestly Forbath is my main worry right now. These games are going to be tight and you need a reliable guy who can at least make a 50 yard FG look respectable. We need to grab a guy from the CFL, not let Priefer talk to him at all, and hope for the best.
Im afraid you are right. I said the same thing about Walsh, and Rick didnt replace him until it was too late. I cant imagine Zimmer relying on Forbath to kick a game winning FG. It would give me a heart attack personally. I am not a Priefer fan either. Im also not a Quigly fan. Not really a ST fan at all except for Sherels who just keeps on ticking.

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Post by PacificNorseWest » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:32 pm

So much for the Barr vs. Kendrics back and forth...They both sucked today. Thielen, crap. Rudolph, no good. Diggs done disappeared from the playmaking spectrum weeks ago. Forbath is shook...And the offensive line: back to being a problem...

And they still had a chance to win...I hate what I saw today, but L's happen, so given what I saw of this team all season, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. That won't last long if they play like that again though.

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Post by John_Viveiros » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:47 pm

My take is that we played an awful game. Bad play calling, more dropped passes in one game than in the rest of the season, injured linemen, lots of bad bounces, lots of plays inches away from going the other way, poor defense on critical plays, turnovers, etc. And to do this on the road against a team that is now 9-4 is always going to cost you.

On the other hand, I was expecting a fluky game, so to find ourselves tied with Carolina at the two-minute warning was oddly satisfying for me. Really, I wouldn't have minded today's outcomes if only the Packers would have lost. Again they pull a game out of their butts in overtime against a really bad team.

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Post by DavidKarki » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:50 pm

PurpleKoolaid wrote: Im afraid you are right. I said the same thing about Walsh, and Rick didnt replace him until it was too late. I cant imagine Zimmer relying on Forbath to kick a game winning FG. It would give me a heart attack personally. I am not a Priefer fan either. Im also not a Quigly fan. Not really a ST fan at all except for Sherels who just keeps on ticking.

And Blair Walsh misses a 38-yard FG at the end of the first half. 3-0 Jags going to the locker room. Walsh will run himself out of Seattle at year's end, I think. After having run himself out of MN.

Whatever issues Forbath may have, Walsh is worse. At least Seattle gets to suffer for it now...
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Post by PurpleMustReign » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:10 pm

The worst part of the day... #### Green Bay beat Cleveland. Now we have to listen to that crap for another week.

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Post by Pondering Her Percy » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:12 pm

This OL is going to be the weak link if they don’t get healthy
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Post by A.D_blazing » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:19 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote:This OL is going to be the weak link if they don’t get healthy
It's ok the vikings have Case Keenum.

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Post by PacificNorseWest » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:24 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote:This OL is going to be the weak link if they don’t get healthy

I honestly wouldn't give an issh about Remmers except for depth reasons, but now with Elfein being hampered forcing Eason to move over and with whatever happened to Reiff going down...I'm concerned.

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