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You mean hall of famer Sage Rosenfels?

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Don't think you need to be a hall of famer to know how long it takes to shake the rust off. In fact, being a career backup qb probably has more experience with rust than a hall of famer that starts almost every game


This.

Just sharing perspective from an NFL quarterback on the issue. Felt relevant.

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You mean hall of famer Sage Rosenfels?

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Don't think you need to be a hall of famer to know how long it takes to shake the rust off. In fact, being a career backup qb probably has more experience with rust than a hall of famer that starts almost every game
Shaking off rust from being a backup is way different than shaking off rust from an injury that kept you out of football for 1.5 years.

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You mean hall of famer Sage Rosenfels?

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Don't think you need to be a hall of famer to know how long it takes to shake the rust off. In fact, being a career backup qb probably has more experience with rust than a hall of famer that starts almost every game
Shaking off rust from being a backup is way different than shaking off rust from an injury that kept you out of football for 1.5 years.

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Oh, OK. Sure, what does an NFL quarterback know. I'm sure he had no idea the context and couldn't comment adequately.

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Link to the interview then. Was it about Teddy?

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I am honestly starting to wonder what it would take for that Keenum wagon to come to halt :tongue:

If he goes 10/22 84 yds 0TD 0INT and we win 14-13 will that be enough to "win" and leave him in?

Its why I hate the "if they are winning" argument. his play has zero impact on how our defense does. Basically none on the running game (Idc about his audibles, if you don't think Bradford or Bridgewater are smart enough to us audibles you are deep down the keenum rabbit hole) or special teams. In the passing game he has been middling to straight up terrible. He LOST us the Steelers games and the Lions game "team effort" aside, you think if a healthy Bradford or potentially a Teddy in those games we possibly win. Keenum LOST those games for us MORE than he won against the Packers or Browns etc.

He is windmilling a tightrope with no net and everyone is saying "look at that form! Promised land ho!"

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I am honestly starting to wonder what it would take for that Keenum wagon to come to halt :tongue:

If he goes 10/22 84 yds 0TD 0INT and we win 14-13 will that be enough to "win" and leave him in?

Its why I hate the "if they are winning" argument. his play has zero impact on how our defense does. Basically none on the running game (Idc about his audibles, if you don't think Bradford or Bridgewater are smart enough to us audibles you are deep down the keenum rabbit hole) or special teams. In the passing game he has been middling to straight up terrible. He LOST us the Steelers games and the Lions game "team effort" aside, you think if a healthy Bradford or potentially a Teddy in those games we possibly win. Keenum LOST those games for us MORE than he won against the Packers or Browns etc.

He is windmilling a tightrope with no net and everyone is saying "look at that form! Promised land ho!"

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I just don't want them to mess with chemistry if they don't have to, especially with Teddy. Keenum isn't doing that bad. He isn't Tom Brady but he isn't Spergeon Wynn either.

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I am honestly starting to wonder what it would take for that Keenum wagon to come to halt :tongue:

If he goes 10/22 84 yds 0TD 0INT and we win 14-13 will that be enough to "win" and leave him in?

Its why I hate the "if they are winning" argument. his play has zero impact on how our defense does. Basically none on the running game (Idc about his audibles, if you don't think Bradford or Bridgewater are smart enough to us audibles you are deep down the keenum rabbit hole) or special teams. In the passing game he has been middling to straight up terrible. He LOST us the Steelers games and the Lions game "team effort" aside, you think if a healthy Bradford or potentially a Teddy in those games we possibly win. Keenum LOST those games for us MORE than he won against the Packers or Browns etc.

He is windmilling a tightrope with no net and everyone is saying "look at that form! Promised land ho!"

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The bottom line is Teddy and Sammy wasn't available. It was either Case or Sloter.
For you to say Teddy would have won them games is just your opinion.
Practice returns this week and the coaches have some decisions to make. Whatever they decide we should be rooting for the starter.
Also wondering who gets cut when Teddy moves to the roster.
Wondering if TE Bell gets cut.


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I am honestly starting to wonder what it would take for that Keenum wagon to come to halt :tongue:

If he goes 10/22 84 yds 0TD 0INT and we win 14-13 will that be enough to "win" and leave him in?

Its why I hate the "if they are winning" argument. his play has zero impact on how our defense does. Basically none on the running game (Idc about his audibles, if you don't think Bradford or Bridgewater are smart enough to us audibles you are deep down the keenum rabbit hole) or special teams. In the passing game he has been middling to straight up terrible. He LOST us the Steelers games and the Lions game "team effort" aside, you think if a healthy Bradford or potentially a Teddy in those games we possibly win. Keenum LOST those games for us MORE than he won against the Packers or Browns etc.

He is windmilling a tightrope with no net and everyone is saying "look at that form! Promised land ho!"

:?


The bottom line is Teddy and Sammy wasn't available. It was either Case or Sloter.
For you to say Teddy would have won them games is just your opinion.
Practice returns this week and the coaches have some decisions to make. Whatever they decide we should be rooting for the starter.
Also wondering who gets cut when Teddy moves to the roster.
Wondering if TE Bell gets cut.


I didn't say they would have. Couldn't have done worse than the hot #### show Keenum put on though. Thats my point. Keenum is playing like a great back up. Who is just a back up.


I really couldn't care less who they cut. Its not like its going to be someone important.

"Harrison smith sent to practice squad to make room for Teddy" XD

My guess is Bradford is the one in the that seat though.


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Has an NFL team ever gone 5-1 and then changed their starting QB?


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Has an NFL team ever gone 5-1 and then changed their starting QB?


Not sure about this, but they might change a back up that has been starting for a QB they believe has more starter ability.

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Bell can't be cut, according to S197 before. I can't remember the rule but he was claimed some way which prevents it.

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Bell can't be cut, according to S197 before. I can't remember the rule but he was claimed some way which prevents it.

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Thanks I didn't know that.


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Teddy brought on, and Sam to IR. Seems most logical to me.


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Bell can't be cut, according to S197 before. I can't remember the rule but he was claimed some way which prevents it.

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I think he can be cut. The question previously asked was if he would be put on the 53-man roster or practice squad and I mentioned that when you pick someone up, they have to be put on the 53-man roster.


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Bell can't be cut, according to S197 before. I can't remember the rule but he was claimed some way which prevents it.

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I think he can be cut. The question previously asked was if he would be put on the 53-man roster or practice squad and I mentioned that when you pick someone up, they have to be put on the 53-man roster.


Makes perfect sense...Thanks!


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In my opinion, the move the Vikings make is likely to be made using a quarterback.

Let's assume that for a moment. Here are the choices.

Don't activate Teddy Bridgewater
He'll go on IR for the rest of the season if he's not activated by Wednesday. Doesn't seem to make sense, though, does it? Unless something comes up on his final medical exam, all signs point to the Vikings activating him. Just mentioned it here because it is an option.

Put Sam Bradford on IR
Don't know the likelihood of this, but it seems more likely than not activating Teddy. Sam hasn't practiced since the Bears game. Teddy actually has. Would suck for Bradford, and it would suck for the Vikings because they're paying him $18 million. But it could happen.

Waive Kyle Sloter
If that happens, he's as good as gone. With all the bad QB situations in the NFL right now, there's no way he'd make it through waivers and get signed to the Vikings practice squad. But there's something fishy about the Vikings and Sloter. They signed him for $20,000 a week to be on the practice squad, the maximum for a PS player. Do they see something in him that would cause them to keep him active over Teddy or Sam?

Keep four quarterbacks (i.e. waive somebody else)
It just doesn't make sense to keep four players at a position for which you only need one. Pretty much nobody does it, which is why I don't think they'll make a move with another player. It's likely to be a quarterback.

I honestly think putting Bradford on IR is the most likely option. It's either going to be that, or they're going to waive Kyle Sloter. As far as proven NFL talent is concerned, waiving Sloter makes the most sense. But if Sam really isn't making any progress with his knee, and he's a free agent at the end of the season anyway, what's the point in burning a roster spot for him? Especially if they think they have something in Sloter.

It'll definitely be interesting.

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Well there you have it folks.

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With Sam Bradford still sidelined indefinitely, the Minnesota Vikings plan to activate Teddy Bridgewater for Week 10 but stick with Case Keenum as their starting quarterback. 

CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora reported Sunday that Bridgewater, the team's former first-round draft pick and starter, should be removed from the Physically Unable to Perform list this week, and that "there are no immediate plans to change course" atop the QB depth chart. According to La Canfora, Bridgewater will continue to gain practice reps and is now eligible to enter a game if need be due to injury or performance.  


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Teddy looking good, strong

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I would consider Aviante Collins as a potential cut. They have Hill and Sirles to play backup T.


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Don't know if this is considered off topic for this thread...but.

If the NY Giants start making calls about what they can get for Eli Manning. Should the Vikings take that call?


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Don't know if this is considered off topic for this thread...but.

If the NY Giants start making calls about what they can get for Eli Manning. Should the Vikings take that call?


Trade deadline has passed.

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Per Thomasson, "Source called it unlikely the Vikings waive Sloter for the roster spot that is needed when Teddy is activated."

Seems to indicate Bradford to IR?

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Per Thomasson, "Source called it unlikely the Vikings waive Sloter for the roster spot that is needed when Teddy is activated."

Seems to indicate Bradford to IR?

That is what I believe will happen.

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But still no video.

It's not that I don't believe it. I just honestly want to see him doing his thing. I really find myself rooting for the guy.

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Don't know if this is considered off topic for this thread...but.

If the NY Giants start making calls about what they can get for Eli Manning. Should the Vikings take that call?

Hell no.


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Don't know if this is considered off topic for this thread...but.

If the NY Giants start making calls about what they can get for Eli Manning. Should the Vikings take that call?


Nope


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The thing is, nobody knows what Sam's status is. Is he improving or isn't he.
Guess we will find that out Wednesday.

I heard the Viking got trade offers for Slotter...either must have been not enough or they are really high on the kid.


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But still no video.

It's not that I don't believe it. I just honestly want to see him doing his thing. I really find myself rooting for the guy.
Exactly.

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FWIW Jarius Wright was more reserved, saying that Teddy is getting his feet wet and Case was playing well. Inference was that why make a switch if what you're doing is working. Valid point. I don't see us making noise in the playoffs with Case though, assuming we make it there.

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Theres no way Teddy plays worse then Case did that first half against the lowly Browns.


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