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Man what a great game to be at! Solid performances all around (except the missed PAT). I had a really nice vantage point and I noticed Treadwell runs routes well, Sam just always looks Diggs and Thielens way. Not complaining just interesting to see, he definitely can contribute more.

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Thank you for the Treadwell insight. I think the kid needs to get in Bradford's face more. Let your QB know that the Vikings drafted him in the first round for a reason.

Great game. I have no problem eating crow if I was wrong about saying this team looked like last year's team. However Bradford is still getting smack around immediately after he releases the ball. He has never shown he can go a full season taking those types of shots.

Well, except for last year.

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Thinking about the game tonight, the thing that sticks out for me is Cook's ability to fight for yards. I can see why he led the nation in yards after contact, and it's not meaningless contact. The guy gets hit hard and he still manages to gain 3 extra yards.

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Great game!!

I will temper my excitement for the O until they do well against a team with a decent D, but this was still great to watch. Again I will temper my enthusiasm but it definitely looks like a different O than last year. I just hope this team can stay healthy

Why the hate for. Barr???!!! 8 tackles, 3 solo, including a great TFL to stop a drive. I thought he looked good.

I loved watching AD for 10 years but man Cook looks like the real deal. Can't wait to see him get in the EZ. LOVED the blitz pickup early in the game. I could really see AP becoming a distraction for the Saints this season. Game 1 and he already looked really frustrated on the sidelines. 6 carries for 18 yards. He really doesn't fit this offense and he won't be happy with 6 carries per game. This has the potential of being a volatile and an ugly situation

Looking forward to next week against a legit D!!!!!!


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Of all the things Cook did well tonight I was most impressed at how well he picked up blitzers on passing downs. After 10 years of watching AP whiff that was a joy to behold!


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I wonder if Rodney Adams gets cut for Floyd, seems like Coley has surpassed him on the depth chart.

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Perhaps we put someone's else on the PUP list before then. Otherwise, I agree since McKinnon is returning kicks and we aren't using Adams as a returner... and I think Adams finds a spot on the practice squad most likely and may get activated later depending on what happens.


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my thoughts.
Wow.
Defense was ready to play afterall. I was concerned we would be off to a slow start because the defense was still ironing out the details. Zimmer may have given the defense a little too much in preseason and dialed back the complexity, or they may have just been sleeping on a few quick counts... or perhaps the defensive play call came in a little bit late. Either way I was Pleasantly surprised. Thought we took too long figuring out the OL and that they would need some time. Pleasantly surprised.

Thought Cook would see a lot of carries but that McKinnon and Murray would see a lot more action because it is rare to have a rookie RB have all the pass blocking assignments and ability. Pleasantly surprised. Was pretty optimistic about how Cook might do but was still impressed.

Bradford climbed the pocket and felt the pressure and stepped up ad moved within the pocket. Had never really seen that from him last year much as he mostly sat back felt the pressure crashing in and found the best available option and stepped up and took the hit as he threw. He still had to throw under pressure but he gave himself more of a chance more often as did the OL. That makes a massive difference as it will result in fewer pressures and sacks and fewer tipped passes and also buy a half a second of time to let the routes develop downfield as opposed to relying too heavily on check-downs and the defense . And the pocket was there to step up... perhaps he trusts his OL better than last year... and perhaps with good reason!

I don't want to overreact as it is difficult to know if you succeeded because of your opponent or in spite of them.

Nice to see Shurmer add a few wrinkles to the playcalling as well. Liked to see Cook on the zone runs and the OL seems athletic enough to move and Cook was patient enough to wait for the cutback and hit it. Cook didn't well getting tough yards as well. The downfield passing was there which is refreshing to see!

Also: Bradford's throw to Jarius Wright was the best throw I've seen Bradford make. He made some subtle movements to manipulate the defense while keeping the throw away from where it could be tipped off and fired a quick release and dropped it right in the bucket downfield against really tight coverage like it was nothing. Wow!


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Man what a great game to be at! Solid performances all around (except the missed PAT). I had a really nice vantage point and I noticed Treadwell runs routes well, Sam just always looks Diggs and Thielens way. Not complaining just interesting to see, he definitely can contribute more.

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Thank you for the Treadwell insight. I think the kid needs to get in Bradford's face more. Let your QB know that the Vikings drafted him in the first round for a reason.

Great game. I have no problem eating crow if I was wrong about saying this team looked like last year's team. However Bradford is still getting smack around immediately after he releases the ball. He has never shown he can go a full season taking those types of shots.


he stayed pretty upright this game.


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I wonder if Rodney Adams gets cut for Floyd, seems like Coley has surpassed him on the depth chart.

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I would like to See Treadwell, Floyd or even Coley get some first unit reps, and playing time, and maybe see if we can get anything for Wright.


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I've watched every game of Bradford's career and I think that was his best.

The oline looked solid. I think they may actually be alright.

Diggs butterfingers didn't follow him out of preseason.

Thielen is a stud.

Defense was impressive overall against a very talented offense.

I still like Waynes but I wouldn't mind Brock getting a start outside.

I think the Steelers can be beat. The Browns played them close and this team is a lot better than the Browns.

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I bet AD is released before week 6. I just don't see him fitting in well with a team that has two good backs ahead of him.

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I'll admit I was shocked by what the offense did tonight. For the majority of the first half they looked like they did all of last year; but after that I can't remember a passing performance like that since Favre. With that said, a lot about this team will become much more clear after this Sunday. I'm from Pittsburgh and heading down to the game and I really hope they can continue building on what they did tonight, but the fact is the Saint's are not the Steelers. It is not only the fans, but many analysts and people outside of the area are picking Pittsburgh to contend if not win the Superbowl this year. I'm keeping my fingers crossed (because in my lifetime they are 0-2) playing at Pittsburgh. But, I'd honestly be happy if we fight hard and give them a game; a win would be amazing.


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Cook's carry chart

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Thought this was funny.

Sam Bradford right now.

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Refocused: Minnesota Vikings 29, New Orleans Saints 19(PFF grades)


TOP 5 GRADES:
WR Stefon Diggs, 88.9 overall grade

QB Sam Bradford, 87.4 overall grade

S Harrison Smith, 86.8 overall grade

WR Adam Thielen, 86.8 overall grade

T Riley Reiff, 83.1 overall grade

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I'll admit I was shocked by what the offense did tonight. For the majority of the first half they looked like they did all of last year; but after that I can't remember a passing performance like that since Favre. With that said, a lot about this team will become much more clear after this Sunday. I'm from Pittsburgh and heading down to the game and I really hope they can continue building on what they did tonight, but the fact is the Saint's are not the Steelers. It is not only the fans, but many analysts and people outside of the area are picking Pittsburgh to contend if not win the Superbowl this year. I'm keeping my fingers crossed (because in my lifetime they are 0-2) playing at Pittsburgh. But, I'd honestly be happy if we fight hard and give them a game; a win would be amazing.


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In the penalty department,

I am happy with the penalty calls against the saints d, that helmet to helmet #### is actually pretty easy to avoid, in the grand scheme of things.

I am annoyed at the roughing the passer call, as far as low blows go, that was about as accidental and non threatening as it can get.

personally, I was pleasantly surprised when the TD was upheld. I thought for sure his reversed hand was gonna cost us.

I almost feel like a Packers fan :lol:


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I can't stop watching the highlights on Vikings.com.

It's been so long since we had anything resembling an explosive offense. I honestly don't know how to react except to keep watching like some obsessed 40-year-old hermit living in his mother's basement.


Haha I'm the same way right now. I've watched them at least 10 times between last night and today

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Refocused: Minnesota Vikings 29, New Orleans Saints 19(PFF grades)


TOP 5 GRADES:
WR Stefon Diggs, 88.9 overall grade

QB Sam Bradford, 87.4 overall grade

S Harrison Smith, 86.8 overall grade

WR Adam Thielen, 86.8 overall grade

T Riley Reiff, 83.1 overall grade

Good stuff.

Surprised they didn't mention Dalvin Cook or Xavier Rhodes. You didn't hear Rhodes' name mentioned much last night, and that's for a reason. According to Vikings.com, the Saints threw at Rhodes only 3 times last night, completing 2 for 22 yards. Cook's drops probably hurt him, but man he was great otherwise.

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Man what a great game to be at! Solid performances all around (except the missed PAT). I had a really nice vantage point and I noticed Treadwell runs routes well, Sam just always looks Diggs and Thielens way. Not complaining just interesting to see, he definitely can contribute more.


Agreed 100%. If you go back and watch the highlights, the long catch Thielen had right before half, Treadwell had his guy burnt on a double move. Would've been a TD if Thielen's route didnt open up so quickly

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Great game!!

I will temper my excitement for the O until they do well against a team with a decent D, but this was still great to watch. Again I will temper my enthusiasm but it definitely looks like a different O than last year. I just hope this team can stay healthy

Why the hate for. Barr???!!! 8 tackles, 3 solo, including a great TFL to stop a drive. I thought he looked good.

I loved watching AD for 10 years but man Cook looks like the real deal. Can't wait to see him get in the EZ. LOVED the blitz pickup early in the game. I could really see AP becoming a distraction for the Saints this season. Game 1 and he already looked really frustrated on the sidelines. 6 carries for 18 yards. He really doesn't fit this offense and he won't be happy with 6 carries per game. This has the potential of being a volatile and an ugly situation

Looking forward to next week against a legit D!!!!!!


Barr had 3 tackles , Waynes was the leading tackler with 9 tackles.
There was 7 players with 3 tackles.


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Wow Bradford was perfect posting a 158.3 passer rating when he was under pressure

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Awesome game. The Saints D is certainly not the stingiest we'll face this year, but their pass rushers are not awful so there is quite a bit to be excited about. Cameron is a strong player and Remmers held his own against him.

Fun Defensive story line: Saints were the best Red Zone offense last year. We only let them get a TD once and that was in garbage time.

Next week against Steelers will be a good test, but we are luck to get them week 2 when their offense isn't quite in mid-season form .

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It is encouraging that Cook only had two carries of negative yards.
Also, I loved that screen to McKinnon. That's the kind of stuff he needs to do, not just the basic runs.

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Wow Bradford was perfect posting a 158.3 passer rating when he was under pressure

Interestingly enough, Sam Bradford is NOT up for Fed Ex Air and Ground Player of the Week. Matt Ryan is.

Neither is Dalvin Cook. Leonard Fournette is.

Wonder if they actually wait to see Monday's results.

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I mean 127 yards and no TDs isn't usually gonna get attention for ground player of the week.

That said, I loved Cook, he looked awesome and it was refreshing to just watch someone hit the holes rather than wait wait wait... tfl.


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Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Wow Bradford was perfect posting a 158.3 passer rating when he was under pressure

Interestingly enough, Sam Bradford is NOT up for Fed Ex Air and Ground Player of the Week. Matt Ryan is.

Neither is Dalvin Cook. Leonard Fournette is.

Wonder if they actually wait to see Monday's results.


There is no way they wait until Monday I wouldnt think. Ryan threw for 1 TD and nearly lost to the Bears

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Great game!!

I will temper my excitement for the O until they do well against a team with a decent D, but this was still great to watch. Again I will temper my enthusiasm but it definitely looks like a different O than last year. I just hope this team can stay healthy

Why the hate for. Barr???!!! 8 tackles, 3 solo, including a great TFL to stop a drive. I thought he looked good.

I loved watching AD for 10 years but man Cook looks like the real deal. Can't wait to see him get in the EZ. LOVED the blitz pickup early in the game. I could really see AP becoming a distraction for the Saints this season. Game 1 and he already looked really frustrated on the sidelines. 6 carries for 18 yards. He really doesn't fit this offense and he won't be happy with 6 carries per game. This has the potential of being a volatile and an ugly situation

Looking forward to next week against a legit D!!!!!!

Agreed on all points. Was thinking the same thing about AD: not going to be satisfied with 6 carries a game and is unlikely to stay quiet about it. Happy it's not the Vikes' problem.


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It is encouraging that Cook only had two carries of negative yards.

I was looking at this earlier. While it is true that Cook lost yardage only twice, he did have 10 carries where the total gained was 5 yards. Not drawing any conclusions since one of the greatest backs of all time, Barry Sanders, notoriously holds the NFL record for most carries for negative yardage.

Here's how Cook's game breaks down by number of yards per carry:

Negative: 2
No gain: 3
1-2 yards: 5
3-4 yards: 4
5-6 yards: 3
7-9 yards: 1
10-15 yards: 2
15+ yards: 2

Total Yardage:

10 carries for a total of 5 yards = .5 YPC
8 carries for a total of 37 yards = 4.6 YPC
18 carries for a total of 42 yards = 2.3 YPC
4 carries for a total of 85 yards = 20.3 YPC

Cook's carries by number of yards gained in the order they occurred:

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2
6
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7
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10
1
3
5
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4
3
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1
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I would like to see the Vikings lock up Kendricks and Hunter soon.

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I would like to see the Vikings lock up Kendricks and Hunter soon.

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