Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

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Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by 720pete » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Just curious, if Bridgewater is ready to go by mid-season, and I'm not saying that is the case, but just bear with me here, in what scenarios do you think the Vikings would activate him?

Would the Vikings activate him if:

[*]Bradford suffers a serious injury as we reach the midpoint of the season and the team has only won 1-2 games
[*]Bradford suffers a serious injury as we reach the midpoint of the season and the team has a very good record, say 6-2 or 7-1
[*]Bradford is playing very poorly but is not injured and we reach the midpoint of the season and the team has only won 1-2 games
[*]Bradford is playing very poorly but is not injured and we reach the midpoint of the season and the team is 4-4 and in the hunt for a wildcard

What say you all?

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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by PurpleMustReign » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:04 pm

Maybe if Bradford is hurt. They signed Keenum, an experienced starter, as a backup for a reason. I will be shocked if Teddy is anywhere near ready this season.

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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by IrishViking » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:34 am

The Third option seems the most likely. the 4th would just lead to a "Bradford needs to improve" cycle until we were booted our he did.

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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by mansquatch » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:25 am

Sam threw for 3877 yards in 15 games last year behind the worst OL in football and having literally zero training camp time with his WR/TE. He had to learn a new offense in a week and then 6 weeks later the whole system changed. Despite that he would have had a 4000 yard season if he played all 16 games. The odds of him slumping with a year under his belt, a full camp, and a what is likely a much improved rushing attack is IMO, VERY low.

If Sam gets hurt it is possible we might see Teddy at some point, but to me that is almost entirely a question of timing. If the injury happens early then we might see him sooner vs. later depending on how the backup plays. If he gets hurt later, it might depend more on their record. If they are out of the hunt, then they probably start Keenum and go into the offseason to figure it out.

To me the real meat on the QB situation is what they do come January. A lot will depend on how this season goes. This team has the potential to be playing in the Divisional round of the playoffs, although they certainly didn't look the part last Sunday. If they do that it is likely they give Bradford a monster contract and then try to shop Teddy or let him walk. There is also no guarantee that Teddy full recovers from the injury, that in of itself is a major assumption at this point. Lots of feel good stories out there, but until he performs on a Sunday it is all speculation. The best case might be that Teddy sees the field at some point this year to increase his trade stock.

A lot can and probably will change before the die is cast on this. No sense getting bent out of shape over it right now.
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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by 720pete » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:33 am

mansquatch wrote:A lot can and probably will change before the die is cast on this. No sense getting bent out of shape over it right now.
No one's getting bent out of shape. Just a little preseason thought exercise to amuse ourselves before the season begins. :govikes:

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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by dead_poet » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:54 pm

mansquatch wrote:Sam threw for 3877 yards in 15 games last year behind the worst OL in football and having literally zero training camp time with his WR/TE. He had to learn a new offense in a week and then 6 weeks later the whole system changed. Despite that he would have had a 4000 yard season if he played all 16 games. The odds of him slumping with a year under his belt, a full camp, and a what is likely a much improved rushing attack is IMO, VERY low.

If Sam gets hurt it is possible we might see Teddy at some point, but to me that is almost entirely a question of timing. If the injury happens early then we might see him sooner vs. later depending on how the backup plays. If he gets hurt later, it might depend more on their record. If they are out of the hunt, then they probably start Keenum and go into the offseason to figure it out.

To me the real meat on the QB situation is what they do come January. A lot will depend on how this season goes. This team has the potential to be playing in the Divisional round of the playoffs, although they certainly didn't look the part last Sunday. If they do that it is likely they give Bradford a monster contract and then try to shop Teddy or let him walk. There is also no guarantee that Teddy full recovers from the injury, that in of itself is a major assumption at this point. Lots of feel good stories out there, but until he performs on a Sunday it is all speculation. The best case might be that Teddy sees the field at some point this year to increase his trade stock.

A lot can and probably will change before the die is cast on this. No sense getting bent out of shape over it right now.
Agreed. A lot may depend on Sam's expectations (relative to his 2017 performance). If he expects a Stafford-like contract...see ya. I'd roll with Teddy (if he's healthy) plus use that cash on deserving free agents while eyeing a QB fairly early given the strength of the class assumed is coming out. To me it doesn't make a lot of sense to shell out a ridiculous amount of cash for a guy that might be only a few percentage points better than Teddy when you could probably get Teddy for much cheaper given the injury.

Whatever happens will be the wrong call though. That's all but assured.
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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by IrishViking » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:14 pm

dead_poet wrote:Whatever happens will be the wrong call though. That's all but assured.

Right? If I was any other team in the NFL I would mortgage my future to pick up the QB the vikings bail on. History dictates they will be in the conversation for the GOAT when its all done.


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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by mansquatch » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:42 pm

The big thing to me on this is that the folks criticizing this situation really need to ask themselves: "Who would you sign now and why?"

To me any answer to that question is full of risks and what ifs, which really points to why it is such a good idea to do nothing. The Vikings are not at risk of losing either guy until his contract expires which doesn't happen until 2018. So time is on their side and the longer they wait the more they will know. I suppose you could argue the goodwill angle, but I'm not sure that holds a bunch of water.

To me those criticizing the lack of movement on this are undervaluing the value of the information to be gained in the coming season.

Just my $0.02 on this topic. And DP, I totally agree, no matter what they do it will be wrong.
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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by dead_poet » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:59 am

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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by IrishViking » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:37 am

I am committing to my view that the only way Teddy sees the field this year (assuming he is medically cleared) is if we are 2-8 or something. Bradford is out the door and you want to give Teddy real game experience before the off season and... from a darker more pragmatic angle; if his leg isn't going to hold up I want it to fail in the last 6 games of a lost season, not week 3 coming off a win.
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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by Cliff » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:10 am

I hope we see him play for the Vikings again and that he can remain healthy.
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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by autobon7 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:47 am

IrishViking wrote:I am committing to my view that the only way Teddy sees the field this year (assuming he is medically cleared) is if we are 2-8 or something. Bradford is out the door and you want to give Teddy real game experience before the off season and... from a darker more pragmatic angle; if he his leg isn't going to hold up I want it to fail in the last 6 games of a lost season, not week 3 coming off a win.
This makes the most sense to me. My gut tells me he will not see the field this year though.

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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by dead_poet » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:47 am

Report out he's expected to remain on the PUP for the first 5 weeks. Not ruling out activating after that.
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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by Tavern_Wino » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:05 pm

Greetings, Vikings fan.

Short time lurker, 1st post. I use to frequent another site, but it has since been shut down, so I am hoping I can still talk purple, with the football minds that frequent this board.

At any rate, I like this move by the Vikings because I believe it still shows they have faith in Teddy's recovery and they at least owe him that much in my opinion. IF for some reason Bridgewater does have to play, that means things are not not going according to plans as another poster stated. I really hope Teddy is fully recovered a long the journey of the season. I wouldn't want to be Spielman and company because they have a tough decision on their hands on what to do with either quarterback. It's a nice problem to have when you have two above average caliber type QB's on your roster- but at some point one of them has to depart for new ventures and career paths.

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Re: Teddy Bridgewater 2017 season activation scenarios

Post by autobon7 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:08 pm

Tavern_Wino wrote:Greetings, Vikings fan.

Short time lurker, 1st post. I use to frequent another site, but it has since been shut down, so I am hoping I can still talk purple, with the football minds that frequent this board.

At any rate, I like this move by the Vikings because I believe it still shows they have faith in Teddy's recovery and they at least owe him that much in my opinion. IF for some reason Bridgewater does have to play, that means things are not not going according to plans as another poster stated. I really hope Teddy is fully recovered a long the journey of the season. I wouldn't want to be Spielman and company because they have a tough decision on their hands on what to do with either quarterback. It's a nice problem to have when you have two above average caliber type QB's on your roster- but at some point one of them has to depart for new ventures and career paths.
Welcome wino.....I agree that if Teddy can fully recover it would be a nice problem to have......and lets not forget we have Keenum who has starting experience and has looked decent in pre-season.

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