Mothman wrote:
It's been one of the worst offenses in the NFL for nearly 3 years. It's just even worse this year.
Not sure if this entire post belongs in here or not but I'm going to post it anyways.
And we usually have the best run game in the NFL. We just haven't had the QB. When you lose everything plus the OL, what are we really expecting here?? You can't overcome this many injuries. You can sit there and give me the "depth" talk all you want but when you lose the two most key positions on the OL, a future HOF RB and a QB that has ran this offense for 3 years now, what do you really expect? Carson Wentz sitting behind Teddy?? Ezekiel Elliot sitting behind AP?? Jack Conklin and Ronnie Stanley sitting behind our tackles??
Here is what amazes me most......there are SO many on here to criticize our "OL scouting", Spielmans "questionable picks", all the guys that were on the "Waynes is a bust" bandwagon and have now moved onto the "Treadwell and Alexander are busts" bandwagon, the guys that say "shoulda went OL, shoulda went OL", etc.
Somebody please give me some insight on what YOU would have done if you were in his shoes given where we picked each year, money that could/couldnt be spent in FA, the talent in the draft, etc. I want to hear your take. Everyone loves to criticize but never has any of their own answers. Instead they just sit there and act like its so easy and they know what to do.
Lets layout the OL for the past 3 years. And lets especially focus on tackle since that's easily our biggest weakness right now. I'll just break down the first round for the most part since that's where the big time OTs usually are.
2014 OTs that were drafted AFTER where our first pick was (First round):
....we picked at #9 and selected Anthony Barr. Also slid back in at the end to select Teddy Bridgewater.
-Taylor Lewan drafted by the Titans 11th overall (solid pick and he has panned out over the years)
-Ju'Wuan James drafted by the Dolphins 19th overall (desperation pick by them because their OL was so bad. Guy had no right going in the first round and it's showed since)
ASSESSMENT: 1 good, 1 bad. Not much to choose from outside of that though. 2nd round was horrible. 2 taken and 2 bad.
KEEP IN MIND: if we took either of these two at #9, we currently wouldnt have Anthony Barr on our team and would have who knows what at SLB.
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2015 OTs that were drafted AFTER where our first pick was (First round):
......we picked at #11 and selected Trae Waynes.
-Andrus Peat drafted by the Saints 13th overall (struggled in New Orleans and was beat out by Terron Armstead but is starting now due to injury. Has struggled this year)
-Cedric Ogbuehi drafted by the Bengals 21st overall (has been horrendous this year and was benched for Eric Winston)
-DJ Humphries drafted by the Cardinals 24th overall (has been blasted multiple times by his coach for lack of work ethic and was a healthy scratch all last season. Hasnt done much at all this season)
ASSESSMENT: Horrible class. Not a good one to choose from. 2nd round wasnt much better. 4 taken, only one worthwhile was Havenstein.
KEEP IN MIND: if we took either of these three at #11, we currently wouldnt have Trae Waynes on our team and would have who knows what backing up a 38 year old Newman at outside CB. Now Trae is pretty much the starter.
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2016 OTs that were drafted AFTER where our first pick was (First round):
ZERO
ASSESSMENT: Very solid class but it wouldve taken a big time move to get up as high as we needed to. 1 OT went in the entire second round and he currently doesnt play for GB
KEEP IN MIND: Nothing. There was really no options for us at 23 unless we gave up the farm to move up.
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......Overall, I'm counting TWO. I'll repeat that......
TWO offensive tackles that have been worth it in the last 3 years in rounds 1-2. That makes up for 11 offensive tackles taken in the last 3 years between rounds 1-2.
Two of those 11 have panned out. Taylor Lewan and Rob Havenstein.
......2 for 11
So for everyone saying/acting like they know what we should've done given the picks we had, enlighten me on some better options here. I just laid the ground work. You can see it yourself that the OTs there when we picked have been extremely weak. In turn,
it's not that easy. So say what you will about Waynes, Treadwell and Alexander. All I know is, there wasnt crap their for OL. Especially OTs which is what we needed most.
So hopefully I put the "Spielman has no clue how to scout OL, we shoulda drafted OL" somewhat to bed especially over the last 3 years because there are too many that are speaking before they actually think right now.