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Re: The German Unicorn

Post by Mothman » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:55 pm

S197 wrote:Right, when you are paying a guy the minimum salary vs 1st round money, it affords you more flexibility.


Sure, but it's the expenditure of a 6th round pick on such a long shot that's so questionable, not the idea of investing time and energy into developing a player.
Thielen is another player who they've given several years and looks like he could potentially pay dividends this year.
Yes, but that's an apples and oranges comparison. Thielen played 4 years of college football and was undrafted. He had considerably more experience, more developed skills and they didn't spend a draft pick on him.
And that might really be key to MoBo, can he contribute on special teams like Thielen was able to.
It will be a big key.
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Post by fiestavike » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:56 pm

S197 wrote:Right, when you are paying a guy the minimum salary vs 1st round money, it affords you more flexibility. Thielen is another player who they've given several years and looks like he could potentially pay dividends this year. And that might really be key to MoBo, can he contribute on special teams like Thielen was able to.
anybody heard anything about Thielen? I swear he left the last game with an injury but I haven't heard a peep about it. Hopefully just a turned ankle or I misread what I saw.
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Post by Mothman » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:05 pm

fiestavike wrote: anybody heard anything about Thielen? I swear he left the last game with an injury but I haven't heard a peep about it. Hopefully just a turned ankle or I misread what I saw.

I looked for injury info on him Friday and couldn't find anything. I'm assuming that means he's okay.
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Post by Texas Vike » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:39 am

fiestavike wrote: anybody heard anything about Thielen? I swear he left the last game with an injury but I haven't heard a peep about it. Hopefully just a turned ankle or I misread what I saw.
I remember seeing him grimace after one of his receptions and it looked like he was holding a leg.
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Re: The German Unicorn

Post by Mothman » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:41 am

Texas Vike wrote: I remember seeing him grimace after one of his receptions and it looked like he was holding a leg.
Was it his leg? :tongue:
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Post by dead_poet » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:15 am

Mothman wrote:
I looked for injury info on him Friday and couldn't find anything. I'm assuming that means he's okay.
He wasn't listed on the latest injury report. Must've been a minor thing.
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Post by Texas Vike » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:26 am

Mothman wrote: Was it his leg? :tongue:
Funny. Spanish grammar seeps into my English at times. Nice catch!
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Post by Zombies0101 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:32 pm

S197 wrote:Right, when you are paying a guy the minimum salary vs 1st round money, it affords you more flexibility. Thielen is another player who they've given several years and looks like he could potentially pay dividends this year. And that might really be key to MoBo, can he contribute on special teams like Thielen was able to.
I did have the luck to be in the Minneapolis aree and so being a German I was happy to get a ticket for this impressive new stadium and enjoyed a nice game day. Of course I purchased my 81 team shirt and saw him in action for one play. Well it was the third pre-season game and so I did not expect anything else.
Never having played football I still believe he did a good job and pushed the gunner out of bounce. Well I think he needs time just as many of all those other drafted wr need as well. So I hope very much he is going to get the chance.
I don't know how he performs in training so I cannot judge that, but every player needs not only training but also game play. I do understand that, what you don't do during training you won't do during a game, still I believe a real game and the surroundings to it enhance the performance for a lot of people.
But even should he have played in the 4th quarter and he wouldn't have had a real chance to show his receiver skills except for blocking cause of the about 15 Viking plays 12 of them were running plays.
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Post by jackal » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:28 am

I don't know how he performs in training so I cannot judge that, but every player needs not only training but also game play. I do understand that, what you don't do during training you won't do during a game, still I believe a real game and the surroundings to it enhance the performance for a lot of people.
But even should he have played in the 4th quarter and he wouldn't have had a real chance to show his receiver skills except for blocking cause of the about 15 Viking plays 12 of them were running plays.
I honestly think the Vikings are going to try and put him on the practice squad this year. The guy has Mike Evans measurables .. so we will see if he ever really makes
a huge splash... I love the long shot players and really hope in time this guy really does something great(deep down I know he is still a long shot) but I will continue
to hope for the guy. I am glad you got see a good game...
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Post by autobon7 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:39 am

I think he will land on the PS as well. He is athletically gifted and very intelligent as well as coachable. All he needs is more time to understand what he needs to do to make that jump. Although a long shot he is well worth a PS spot.
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Post by Texas Vike » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:47 am

I finally got around to watching the fourth preseason game. Just before Ham's TD in the 4th quarter, Rick Spielman was in the commentating booth with PA and Bercich and he summarized the GU's background thus:

"You're taking a High school player, essentially, and putting him in the NFL"

As a logical follow up question, I wish PA had asked him if the NFL incentivized our selection of him in some way.
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Post by Mothman » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:54 am

Texas Vike wrote:I finally got around to watching the fourth preseason game. Just before Ham's TD in the 4th quarter, Rick Spielman was in the commentating booth with PA and Bercich and he summarized the GU's background thus:

"You're taking a High school player, essentially, and putting him in the NFL"

As a logical follow up question, I wish PA had asked him if the NFL incentivized our selection of him in some way.

That would have been a nice follow-up question, especially since the Vikings GM had just admitted to spending a draft pick on the equivalent of a high school player!
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Post by Jordysghost » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:57 am

Texas Vike wrote:
As a logical follow up question, I wish PA had asked him if the NFL incentivized our selection of him in some way.
I sure hope not, but I if it did, I doubt that anyone would just straight up say it.
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Post by Texas Vike » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:04 am

Jordysghost wrote: I sure hope not, but I if it did, I doubt that anyone would just straight up say it.
Of course not. The point isn't Rick's answer, but to ask the obvious question and to watch the politician craft his answer. Your GM just said that they spent a 6th round pick on a guy who played in the equivalent of a HS level league: IMO he's essentially BEGGING you to inquire about the rationale behind the pick.
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Post by PurpleMustReign » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:25 pm

Texas Vike wrote: Of course not. The point isn't Rick's answer, but to ask the obvious question and to watch the politician craft his answer. Your GM just said that they spent a 6th round pick on a guy who played in the equivalent of a HS level league: IMO he's essentially BEGGING you to inquire about the rationale behind the pick.

That's one of the many reasons I can't stand Paul Allen. I have to believe there are so many other choices who could do a better job than him in the preseason. Whenever the referee would make a call (penalty, etc.), he would quickly say his "prediction" like an idiot and then be all proud of himself when he was right (it was almost always obvious, so it isn't like he was going out on a limb).
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