View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:42 pm



Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ] 
 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such) 
Author Message
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Via Jon Ledyard (draft scout)

Quote:
@LedyardNFLDraft 1. I've been a big Sheldon Rankins proponent for awhile, but he's making it clear he's a top 15 prospect in the 2016 class. Best 3 tech too.

Quote:
2. DT D.J. Reader is making money here, as anticipated. Carries 340 pounds well, and moves ridiculously for that weight. Good hands.

Quote:
3. Sterling Shepard best WR here, today indicated that further.
<-- More Shepard praise
Quote:
4. DE Carl Nassib just keeps getting better. Looked thicker too. Worked Kyle Murphy and Joe Haeg today.

Quote:
5. Carson Wentz was CLEARLY the best QB here, especially on the North roster. Brandon Allen made a couple nice throws too. Think those two and Dak are obviously the top prospects here at QB.

Quote:
6. DE Matt Ioannidis had a DAY. Not sure what to make of it. Way more explosive than I saw on tape. We'll see what he does tomorrow.

Quote:
7. Stop messing around with Vadal at OT. He's an OG, and a limited one at that. Got coached up a lot today.

Quote:
8. 1v1s obviously favor DL, but this OT group got tore up pretty good today, as anticipated. This DL/EDGE group might have 5a6 1st rounders.

Quote:
9. Joshua Garnett is the best guard in this class. Can do it all. And works his butt off.
<---Guard alert!
Quote:
10. Spencer Drango might have to move to guard. He's getting beat up out here.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:05 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
2016 Reese's Senior Bowl: First Practice Report, One-on-Ones, Notes


http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/0 ... nes-notes/

Lots here. Worth the read.

Quote:
1. EDGE Charles Tapper got leverage on OG Cody Whitehair and tossed him aside for a “sack”. Whitehair had a good day overall, but got off to a slow start and one coach got in his grill a bit to amp him up. After that he was pretty dominant.

Quote:
4. OG Sebastian Tretola cannot be beaten with power. The man’s anchor is absurd, and DL Quinton Jefferson found out the hard way and got buried trying to bull rush the Arkansas guard.

Quote:
6. Tretola buried DT Jarran Reed in a clash of two behemoth power players.

Quote:
S Jeremy Cash made an excellent stop in the box, flowing across the formation, sifting through trash, and holding the ball carrier to a short gain. His instincts near the line of scrimmage are just fantastic to watch. Some team is going to get one heck of a football player.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:08 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Senior Bowl Day One Stock Report: Winners and Losers

http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/0 ... nd-losers/

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:12 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Josh Norris notes:

Senior Bowl Day One

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/5 ... wl-day-one

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:17 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
2016 NFL Draft Senior Bowl: Who won the weigh in?

http://nflspinzone.com/2016/01/27/2016- ... won-weigh/

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:36 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Matt Waldman:

North Practice Day 1

http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2016/01/26/no ... ice-day-1/


http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2016/01/26/se ... l-central/

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:49 am
Profile
Defensive Tackle
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:48 am
Posts: 37200
Location: Chicago, IL
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
dead_poet wrote:
Quote:
5. Carson Wentz was CLEARLY the best QB here, especially on the North roster. Brandon Allen made a couple nice throws too. Think those two and Dak are obviously the top prospects here at QB.


I'm really intrigued by Wentz. I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

Quote:
9. Joshua Garnett is the best guard in this class. Can do it all. And works his butt off.
<---Guard alert!


:lol: That may have to become our rallying cry this offseason.


Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:12 pm
Profile
Defensive Tackle
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:48 am
Posts: 37200
Location: Chicago, IL
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
dead_poet wrote:
2016 NFL Draft Senior Bowl: Who won the weigh in?

http://nflspinzone.com/2016/01/27/2016- ... won-weigh/


If it's possible for a single question to encapsulate the ridiculous level of hype and coverage that surrounds the NFL Draft, I nominate "Who won the weigh in?" to be that question. :)

Thanks for all the Senior Bowl links!


Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:19 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Mothman wrote:
dead_poet wrote:
2016 NFL Draft Senior Bowl: Who won the weigh in?

http://nflspinzone.com/2016/01/27/2016- ... won-weigh/


If it's possible for a single question to encapsulate the ridiculous level of hype and coverage that surrounds the NFL Draft, I nominate "Who won the weigh in?" to be that question. :)

Thanks for all the Senior Bowl links!


I thought so too but the article makes some interesting points.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:13 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
One name to watch is Boise State safety Darian Thompson. Has some buzz going. Potential late-first/early second-rounder. 6'2/210. 19 picks in his career

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:36 pm
Profile
Defensive Tackle
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:48 am
Posts: 37200
Location: Chicago, IL
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
dead_poet wrote:
Mothman wrote:
dead_poet wrote:
2016 NFL Draft Senior Bowl: Who won the weigh in?

http://nflspinzone.com/2016/01/27/2016- ... won-weigh/


If it's possible for a single question to encapsulate the ridiculous level of hype and coverage that surrounds the NFL Draft, I nominate "Who won the weigh in?" to be that question. :)

Thanks for all the Senior Bowl links!


I thought so too but the article makes some interesting points.



I haven't had a chance to read that one yet. I was just amused by the concept of winning a weigh-in. :)


Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:47 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Senior Bowl Day 2: North-South Practice Notes and Observations

http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/0 ... ervations/

Quote:
-CB Maurice Canady showed excellent press technique to ride out the receiver with the opposite hand in slot coverage during one play today. He’s a long corner with a lot of confidence. I’m looking forward to watching him more tomorrow, but I like the mentality he brings to the field.

Quote:
-NT D.J. Reader making money here. Too powerful for C Evan Boehm on the bull rush. Ripped under Glasgow on another rep.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:01 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Senior Bowl Day Two: North OL-DL, South LB/S-RB/TE 1v1 Results

http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/0 ... 1-results/

Quote:
1. OT Jason Spriggs had a really strong day, burying DL Jihad Ward in pass protection.

Quote:
2. OG Joshua Garnett got his hands high and tight on DL Adolphus Washington, controlling the Ohio State defensive linemen to the ground. Won the second rep in similar fashion. 21. Garnett mauls Ioanndis several yards upfield past the pocket

Quote:
7. Two reps in a row that DT Austin Johnson converted speed-to-power well and bullied C Austin Blythe back into the pocket, but couldn’t disengage from the blocker. Johnson needs to get his hands inside quicker so he can control his opponent. 18. Blythe rides DL Vernon Butler’s attempted spin move up the arc

Quote:
11. Garnett mauled DL Sheldon Day, then shoved him back into the defensive huddle. So edgy.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:05 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Senior Bowl Day 2 Stock Report: Winners and Losers

http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/0 ... nd-losers/

Guard alert!

Quote:
3. OG Joshua Garnett, Stanford
Just a dominant day for the Cardinal guard, who successfully battled off attackers in one-on-ones, beforeJoshua Garnett Stanford solo showing precise footwork and timing in his pull game. His arm extension and punch gave pass rushers fits, and even when Garnett did lose initial leverage, he re-anchored extremely well against power. Some are still sleeping on Garnett, but this week should be clearly establishing him as the top offensive guard in the 2016 draft.

Quote:
2. CB Jalen Mills, LSU
Mills had an excellent practice, dominating the 1v1 period against the receivers. His ability to read patterns and break on the three-step game with precision is impressive, as Mills nearly intercepted two passes during the session. He’s physical and instinctive, but does he have the hip fluidity and long speed to turn and carry receivers vertically? That’s the question that hopefully tomorrow will answer.

Quote:
S Kevin Byard, Middle Tennessee State
Kevin ByardI really like this kid’s game, as Byard fills both deep safety and in-the-box responsibilities with equal success. He’s a very good tackler that gets downfield in a hurry and will lay the wood when necessary, but where Byard really thrives is in his ability to read routes and break on the football. He made a leaping, high-point interception of one deep Brissett throw near the goal line, showing great concentration to reel in the errant pass.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:08 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Quote:
@LedyardNFLDraft Joshua Garnett and Cody Whitehair are easily best two OGs here. As expected. Nick Martin, but mostly at C.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:39 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Quote:
@JuMosq Ward walked off the field. Garnett is the best IOL here. Bully. Just super consistent.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:43 am
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Quote:
@TonyPauline Jason Spriggs/T/Indiana continues to impress. Have to believe he's cemented himself as a late first rounder.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:02 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Quote:
@TonyPauline Cole Toner/T/Harvard shows great potential. Can develop into a Sunday starter after a year or so.

Quote:
@TonyPauline Nick Martin/C/Notre Dame continues to impress. Handled Austin Johnson/Penn State on consecutive snaps.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:04 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
20 Overarching Impressions from Senior Bowl South Team Practices

http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/0 ... practices/

Quote:
5. All due respect to the Braxton Miller hype train, but Sterling Shepard was the best wide receiver in Mobile on either squad. Smooth operator with exceptional hands and quickness at the top of his route. Dedicated, well-spoken kid too. Teams better not make the same mistake they made with Tyler Lockett and let him fall.

Quote:
7. Cody Whitehair is the kind of prospect that teams will sleep on and think they can almost replicate with a mid-round pick, but then he’ll start for 14 years and kill it. His base, core strength, technique and footwork were impressive to say the least. Should be gone by pick #35.

Quote:
8. Spencer Drango, John Theus, and Vadal Alexander were all once rumored to be first round picks, but the trio has fallen off dramatically. Drango’s pass sets are way too shallow (could be a Baylor thing) and he lacks the quick feet to mirror defenders around the arc. Alexander definitely has to kick inside to guard at the next level, and even then he’s got to land with a gap-heavy scheme. Theus may actually be undraftable, as his issues abound beyond the other two. Not sure any offensive tackle had a rougher week.

Quote:
9. I like Christian Westerman. Think he’ll go in the mid-rounds, but has a great work ethic and the nastiness to thrive in the rigors of the NFL. He just has to keep refining his feet, as Westerman’s length, power, and movement skills should attract NFL teams looking for quality guard help.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:54 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
10 PROSPECTS WHO STOOD OUT ON DAY 3 OF SENIOR BOWL PRACTICES

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... practices/

Quote:
5. Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State
One-on-one pass-rush drills are usually to the defender’s advantage, but that wasn’t the case Thursday for Whitehair. He held his own on every rep, even stoning pass-rushers on a few and leveling one with a pancake block. There’s some debate over whether he’s a tackle or a guard at the next level, after he graded out as our No. 1 tackle in 2015, but his best reps came as a guard on Thursday.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:06 pm
Profile
Defensive Tackle
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:48 am
Posts: 37200
Location: Chicago, IL
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Thanks for the "Guard alert!" updates. Whitehair and Garnett sound like two players we should keep a close eye on in the game and the months ahead. Since the Vikes spoke with Shepard, He;s obviously someone to watch too.


Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:14 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
Mothman wrote:
Thanks for the "Guard alert!" updates. Whitehair and Garnett sound like two players we should keep a close eye on in the game and the months ahead. Since the Vikes spoke with Shepard, He;s obviously someone to watch too.


Problem is we'd have to take Whitehair in R1 (if he's not gone already) and possibly Garnett as well. I'd be shocked if Rick did that. Other names I see popping up and I've done a bit more research on that I have my eye on include: Martin, Tretola and Westerman. Westerman is apparently an ox. He put up 41 reps of 225 last year. :shock: He did 20 of 315, too. His combine bench press might be fun. Tretola is pretty brutish, too. I'd be pretty happy with any of those guys.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:28 pm
Profile
All Pro Elite Player
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:07 pm
Posts: 1369
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
I watched the game, although not too closely. I was impressed with Noah Spence, Jarran Reed, and Brandon Allen.

_________________
Image
Don't hate on my Buckeyes. Some of the best Vikings went to Ohio State.
Including now, HOF WR #80 Cris Carter


Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:25 pm
Profile
Commissioner
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:30 pm
Posts: 23084
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
CbusVikesFan wrote:
I watched the game, although not too closely. I was impressed with Noah Spence, Jarran Reed, and Brandon Allen.


I kept my eye on the interior lines. Whitehair is every bit as good as advertised.

_________________
“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that.” --- Bill Shankly


Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:29 pm
Profile
Strong Safety
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:05 am
Posts: 11329
Location: California
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
yeah there are four or five OG that are NFL ready and two or three centers

I am hoping we pick up two or three OL guys through FA or draft

Turner was supposed to be a plug and play OG as well..

_________________
no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!


Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:43 am
Profile
All Pro Elite Player
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:07 pm
Posts: 1369
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Post Re: 2016 Senior Bowl (notes & such)
dead_poet wrote:
CbusVikesFan wrote:
I watched the game, although not too closely. I was impressed with Noah Spence, Jarran Reed, and Brandon Allen.


I kept my eye on the interior lines. Whitehair is every bit as good as advertised.

I fear that the top 2 or 3 guards will be gone by the time the Vikings pick. Spence and Reed improved their stock yesterday. It sucks that we have to wait until the end of Feb. for the combine.

_________________
Image
Don't hate on my Buckeyes. Some of the best Vikings went to Ohio State.
Including now, HOF WR #80 Cris Carter


Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:43 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 26 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware.