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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by Mothman » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:17 am

dead_poet wrote:Worth a read.

There are only five can't-miss players in the 2015 NFL Draft
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jas ... -nfl-draft

So, which one of the 5 "can't miss" players will end up being a miss? ;)
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by dead_poet » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:52 am

Combine star Byron Jones jumps high, far while staying grounded

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... broad-jump
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by fiestavike » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:13 am

Mothman wrote:
So, which one of the 5 "can't miss" players will end up being a miss? ;)
Shane Ray.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by IIsweet » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:02 am

I agree with many and do not want Trae Waynes as many posted before.
I would love a Vic Beasley, maybe not the ideal fit? But tremendous player.
He gives another pass rusher, but with the speed could be like Barr. He allow a ton of flexibility to jump into a 3-4 but makes a very creative, athletic, attacking defense.
In actuality, I hope we trade down and accumulate picks.
I love doing mock drafts with multiple 2nd rders. I think that there is a ton of value there this year.

Maybe an idea, trade AD to Oakland for their 2nd and their CB DJ Hayden.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by Mothman » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:23 am

fiestavike wrote:So, which one of the 5 "can't miss" players will end up being a miss? ;)
Shane Ray.[/quote]

Wow, I must have been sleepy this morning. I completely overlooked his name on that list when i skimmed the article. Yes, I'd say he's the logical answer to the question at this point, although i was leaning toward White.

I just always find the idea of "can't miss" players in the draft amusing, since there's clearly no such thing.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by dead_poet » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:35 pm

PFF/CFF comes out against Waynes in R1

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... waynes-cb/
The player most people seem to have at the top of their boards at the position is Michigan State’s Trae Waynes but, as you’ll know if you have seen our mock draft either here or on the PFF “Grading the Draft” show on NBC Sports, we wouldn’t draft him in the first round. That’s going to surprise a lot of people, especially given how fast he looks on the field, so let’s break down why he doesn’t crack the first round for us.
Summary: Fast straight-line speed, poor change-of-direction, poor defending intermediate routes, poor concentration, ball identification, play recognition, awareness. Maybe I just have Chris Cook flashbacks but I hope we pass.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by Mothman » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:57 pm

dead_poet wrote:PFF/CFF comes out against Waynes in R1

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... waynes-cb/
Summary: Fast straight-line speed, poor change-of-direction, poor defending intermediate routes, poor concentration, ball identification, play recognition, awareness. Maybe I just have Chris Cook flashbacks but I hope we pass.
If PFF feels that strongly that he's not a first round talent, that bodes well for Waynes' future! :twisted:
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by dead_poet » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:59 pm

Mothman wrote: If PFF feels that strongly that he's not a first round talent, that bodes well for Waynes' future! :twisted:
Ha! I figured you'd roll your eyes at that. But it's yet another opinion that Waynes may not be the far and away best corner in the draft.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by cmoss84 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:08 pm

If Ray and Gregory are there at 11 and you HAD TO pick one of them, who would it be? Flip a coin?
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by dead_poet » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:26 pm

@AdamSchefter Police are seeking to question LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins following the shooting death of a pregnant... http://fb.me/6CURsNgdD
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by dead_poet » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:27 pm

cmoss84 wrote:If Ray and Gregory are there at 11 and you HAD TO pick one of them, who would it be? Flip a coin?
Gregory I guess.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by Mothman » Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:36 pm

dead_poet wrote:Ha! I figured you'd roll your eyes at that. But it's yet another opinion that Waynes may not be the far and away best corner in the draft.
In all seriousness, I don't think he is far and away the best corner in the draft but I do think he's a legitimate first round prospect and a good potential fit for the Vikes defense. I feel there's a bit of over-analysis going on with him as the draft draws near. There are shortcomings in his game but I don't think they undermine his strengths to the degree that he should fall all the way out of the first round.

I just can't resist making wisecracks about PFF. :)
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by S197 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:39 pm

dead_poet wrote:PFF/CFF comes out against Waynes in R1

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... waynes-cb/
Summary: Fast straight-line speed, poor change-of-direction, poor defending intermediate routes, poor concentration, ball identification, play recognition, awareness. Maybe I just have Chris Cook flashbacks but I hope we pass.
It does have the familiar ring of a Chris Cook type player. Sadly, I think it sounds a bit like Josh Robinson too.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by DK Sweets » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:33 am

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That's incredibly sad to hear. Maybe it's just because my first child is on the way, but that really #### on my morning.
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Re: Who do we draft?

Post by dead_poet » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:19 am

DK Sweets wrote:That's incredibly sad to hear. Maybe it's just because my first child is on the way, but that really #### on my morning.
It sounds like Collins was nowhere near the incident and is not a suspect. But yeah, rough.

Oh, but congratulations!
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