The Toilet Bowl.

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"The effort, the preparation was there," Frazier insisted. "We just didn't execute well enough to keep our fans engaged. The effort was there, but we have to play smarter and we have to play better."
Who cares about the fans' engagement? WIN! Say: "We didn't play well enough to stay in the game, much less win."

Another interesting section, I've underlined the best part:
The Vikings might have started out as if they were interested, but by the second half they were going through the motions. It doesn't matter, anyway. This just isn't a very good team. Clearly, Christian Ponder wasn't the entire problem. The Vikings can't tackle, and they can't cover anybody. The offense is mistake-prone and unimaginative.

Quarterback Matt Cassel wasn't particularly good, either. After throwing a brutal interception on the first drive, he returned to the bench and sat next to Ponder. I figure those two probably bonded right there.
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Frazier knows his stuff, there's no question about that. Either he's not getting through or the players aren't good enough to do as they are instructed.
No kidding? Unfortunately, there are plenty of questions about Frazier's competence as a head coach. If he's not "getting through" then he's failing at the single most important skill needed of an NFL head coach.
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Eli wrote: No kidding? Unfortunately, there are plenty of questions about Frazier's competence as a head coach. If he's not "getting through" then he's failing at the single most important skill needed of an NFL head coach.
Bingo, it doesn't matter one lick how much Frazier knows if he can't figure out a way to get that information to his players so they can absorb it.
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Texas Vike wrote:
What did I tell you? Frazier, Musgrave and Williams are 3 of the worst coaches in football and collectively make this team one of the worst
coached teams in football. Yet again, the team got thoroughly out coached and game planned in every facet of the game, to the point where
players like Kalil were flat out stating it, but Frazier and Co. spat out the well-worn lie of "We just didn't execute."

THE PLANS SUCKS. Leaving people unblocked sucks. Making Peterson block in pass protection sucks. 2 yard passes to tight ends and fullbacks
on 3rd and 10 suck. Punt punt pass sucks. Passing on multiple 2nd and 3rd and 3 or less when you have Peterson and Gerhardt is SHEER RETARDATION.
Not playing our best players to the utmost sucks. Everything they did to take Robinson from a promising
player to a league-wide laughingstock sucks. Cover 2 is HEINOUSLY BAD in this era.

Do you ever feel like this team is the best coached team on any week? Ever? This coaching staff has something like 3 straight 30-10 losses after the
bye week and is sub .500 with the best running back of his generation. The coaching is TERRIBLE but it is always "execution."

I can imagine them coaching during a war...

"Yeah, the plan we had for horse-riding cavalry just didn't work against the opponent's Abrams tanks. It isn't that horse-riding cavalry
is preposterous and ineffective in the 21st Century. We just have to execute better!"

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Once the Vikings leave this Tampa 2 defense and this West Coast Offense scheme, they will be better schematically. It defeats the purpose of having a Cover 2 D when the D is not making tackles or key stops. Every game I see the D just allowing the opposing team to drive down the field (giving up a lot of time of possession) and score. I don't mind zone defense but the cover 2 is not for this team. It works against teams weaker than us but not against a high powered offense.

The West Coast Scheme only works when you're playing with the tie or the lead. If you get blowed out like we did last Sunday, the West Coast plan will not get us back in the game. We need a more balanced game plan. Enough with the "Lets get Adrian going" bs, Adrian is going to get his regardless. Lets get the REST of the players on offense going. Maybe we wouldn't be so pedestrian on offense then.
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