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Should we draft a QB?

Post by mondry » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:28 pm

If it's true that we're moving Webb to WR (it seems likely, as we have 4 QB's right now) who do you guys think would be worth a late round flyer? This guy should have more upside than MBT of course to become our developmental guy.

I think it's a good idea to draft someone, maybe a 5th rounder or our second 4th rounder? I'm someone who thinks Ponder will improve in 2013 but no matter how much you like someone it just makes sense to have a back up plan and I think we've found out that Webb isn't it.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by Rus » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:33 am

mondry wrote:If it's true that we're moving Webb to WR (it seems likely, as we have 4 QB's right now) who do you guys think would be worth a late round flyer? This guy should have more upside than MBT of course to become our developmental guy.

I think it's a good idea to draft someone, maybe a 5th rounder or our second 4th rounder? I'm someone who thinks Ponder will improve in 2013 but no matter how much you like someone it just makes sense to have a back up plan and I think we've found out that Webb isn't it.
I doubt a lot of them available in the sixth and seventh rounds are much better than MBT from what I've read of the late selections. If you were serious about drafting a developmental quarterback in this draft, it'd actually end up being in the second or third round because most of the better upside guys are going in those two. I'm thinking Glennon and Manuel, maybe Bray if you're up for a character risk. That said, those guys would be really solid developmental quarterbacks in any draft simply because they're all prototypical height and they all have pretty strong arms and decent athleticism (well, except for Glennon). They also all have a lot of work to do before they could run a successful NFL offense. Any other pick, though, feels like it'd be a waste. In this draft, the types of quarterbacks being drafted after the fifth round are the types that would be undrafted in most drafts.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by Mothman » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:11 am

I think Zac Dysert (from Miami of Ohio) would be worth a mid-to-late round pick as a developmental QB:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... zac-dysert

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/ ... id=2539258

I like his potential quite a bit. I'm not sure how long he'll last but he could be available in the late 4th or 5th round window you mentioned.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by PacificNorseWest » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:45 am

I want them to get Tyler Wilson, but to answer the post...No.

The only thing I like about the Webb move is the dual position versatility he can provide for the roster. If he's used as the emergency Q, then the Vikes won't need to waste another roster spot for a guy that will be 3rd or even 4th on the depth chart.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by mondry » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:06 pm

Mothman wrote:I think Zac Dysert (from Miami of Ohio) would be worth a mid-to-late round pick as a developmental QB:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... zac-dysert

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/ ... id=2539258

I like his potential quite a bit. I'm not sure how long he'll last but he could be available in the late 4th or 5th round window you mentioned.
Nice, hopefully he only compares to big ben on the field haha. Definitely sounds like he has some issues as well but for a 4th or 5th round QB he sounds like he'd be worth a shot as the new #3 development guy.

We know it's Ponder for 2013, and if something happens to him cassel. I think that makes for a good situation for a rookie to sit back and learn a bit.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by Mothman » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:16 pm

mondry wrote:Nice, hopefully he only compares to big ben on the field haha.

LOL! let's hope so...
He's definitely not perfect but I've seen him play a few times and he's "got game". I think he'd be an almost ideal mid-round developmental prospect because he has the proverbial tools to succeed and he's not a completely raw prospect. He's a skilled player.
I agree, I hope they come out of this draft with a young #3 QB with genuine future starting potential.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by losperros » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:28 pm

Mothman wrote: I agree, I hope they come out of this draft with a young #3 QB with genuine future starting potential.
I do too. Actually, I really don't know much about the QBs that will go in the middle to late rounds in this draft, so I don't know who would be a good candidate as a #3 QB and to develop.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by Demi » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:51 pm

Yes we should. Somewhere. Anywhere!
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by mondry » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:26 pm

Demi wrote:Yes we should. Somewhere. Anywhere!
hahaha, I was waiting for your post, I knew you would like this thread! :)
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by Demi » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:19 pm

mondry wrote: hahaha, I was waiting for your post, I knew you would like this thread! :)
I said before Dysert, Jones, someone in the mid rounds. Hopefully not a midget this time. At least bring in some real competition for that 3rd spot.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by hibbingviking » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:15 pm

Demi wrote: I said before Dysert, Jones, someone in the mid rounds. Hopefully not a midget this time. At least bring in some real competition for that 3rd spot.
draft a qb that has a strong arm for once.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by S197 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:38 pm

We absolutely should draft a QB. We have more picks than roster spots, lets get some competition going for that 3rd spot. My biggest gripe with Spielman is how long he neglected the QB position. Whether or not that was his call (pre-GM role) we'll never know but he has the chance to fix that this year. Granted, Cassel makes this less of an issue but with the number of picks we have, we can afford a flier on someone. I mentioned it before, but I'll say it again, the Redskins gave away the farm for RG3 and STILL drafted another QB. We went with old man Favre and no contingency plan except for Webb (who was drafted to be a WR). That led to dirtball McNabb, his subsequent benching, and Ponder being put in, IMO, before he was ready. That's a scenario cannot be repeated.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by mondry » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:52 am

S197 wrote:We absolutely should draft a QB. We have more picks than roster spots, lets get some competition going for that 3rd spot. My biggest gripe with Spielman is how long he neglected the QB position. Whether or not that was his call (pre-GM role) we'll never know but he has the chance to fix that this year. Granted, Cassel makes this less of an issue but with the number of picks we have, we can afford a flier on someone. I mentioned it before, but I'll say it again, the Redskins gave away the farm for RG3 and STILL drafted another QB. We went with old man Favre and no contingency plan except for Webb (who was drafted to be a WR). That led to dirtball McNabb, his subsequent benching, and Ponder being put in, IMO, before he was ready. That's a scenario cannot be repeated.
Good point about the Redskins, if the BPA ever happens to be a QB, I hope they pull the trigger on him. It really is kind of a no brainer, if the guy pans out and becomes better than your current starter hurray the team upgrades at QB. If your current starter turns out to be awesome and the new QB does well you can usually trade him to some other QB needy team for a much better pick then you spent. Even if the guy ends up being like Kevin Kolb as long as you can get him to look decent for a game or two there is always a team desperate enough to want um.
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by Laserman » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:41 pm

Demi wrote:Yes we should. Somewhere. Anywhere!
Agreed. I doubt anybody is higher than 50% sold on Ponder
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Re: Should we draft a QB?

Post by dkoby » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:45 pm

Glennon in the 4th
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