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Updated the mock for this week. I changed about 7-8 picks.
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big deli Vike wrote:sorry, just thought you were tryin to make a strong point that you were really anti-ogletree

ack. Didnt quite mean it that way. I am as anti-Ogletree as they get....i hope you get what im trying to say because i dont know if i do.
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Updated the mock draft for this week. Take a look!
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mrc44 wrote: I partially agree with the Williams pick, because word on the street is INDY needs a DT, so it makes since we take ours prior to their pick. However, I have Manti going to Chicago and us ending up with Brown at #23 (Hopkins at #25). I would not mind what you have, but I am really starting to believe we will hold off on DT until the 2nd and grab Short or Jenkins, etc. Just curious where you heard Williams was drawing interest from the Vikings? I had seen at the end of the combine that a lot of Analysts had us taking Williams but now I have noticed more CB/LB/WR combos.
Hold off on DT in the 1st round unless you trade down and maybe get Jesse Williams, he was a more dominant player than Sylvester, plus S. williams actually has reported weaknesses as being lost in half the season (as in he wasnt a factor). a 1st round pick needs to be a factor in the NFL and if you cant do that against ACC teams, you wont do it in the NFL. S. Williams should not be a 1st rounder. get Hankins or Jenkins in the 2nd.
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yeah i have no doubt he's a hard worker, basically quitting football then coming back and playing at UNC. I just remember not even realizing that he was in the game against Louisville
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FWIW, I want no part of Slyvester Williams or Manti Te'o. I really hope Minnesota drafts Cordarrelle Patterson, Justin Hunter, or DeAndre Hopkins with the 23rd pick and then tries for Jonathan Banks or someone like Kawann Short with the 25th pick.
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:FWIW, I want no part of Slyvester Williams or Manti Te'o. I really hope Minnesota drafts Cordarrelle Patterson, Justin Hunter, or DeAndre Hopkins with the 23rd pick and then tries for Jonathan Banks or someone like Kawann Short with the 25th pick.
exactly my opinion. except if we can get hunter in round 2 we can get 2 solid d in the first (Banks, MInter, olgetree) and we could get hunter, dobson, woods in round two
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maybe Jon Bostic?
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big deli Vike wrote:maybe Jon Bostic?
I have wanted Bostic for quite sometime. I almost rather us take Bostic and grab other needs in first round/second round.
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Updated the mock draft. I would appreciate both feedbacks and other user mock drafts!
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HardcoreVikesFan wrote:Updated the mock draft. I would appreciate both feedbacks and other user mock drafts!

I think Te'o and Hopkins is a very likely scenario. If I had to bet that's where I'd put my money.

Manti Te'o is going to be a Viking unless the Bears take him. That's my prediction.
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mrc44 wrote: I like the update! You should see if in a 2nd round mock Banks or Hayden would be available for us :) we need a corner bad
Thank you!

Unfortunately, I only stick to doing round one for my mocks. Doing round one is tough enough! :)
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I think Te'o and Hopkins is a very likely scenario. If I had to bet that's where I'd put my money.

Manti Te'o is going to be a Viking unless the Bears take him. That's my prediction.
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Id be very happy in any scenario that we get Hopkins!
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Perhaps we've made him too popular (EVIL GRIN) It kind of sucks to get this invested into players, now if Hopkins is there and we don't take him I'm gonna be way sad about it!
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Ok I'm going to put out my 2 round mock, will probably adjust a few things on the day of the draft based on rumors and whatnot, but for now I feel pretty comfortable with this. Normally, I hate predicting trades in mock drafts, because it's really just a crapshoot once you start trying to guess trades. But with a few rumored players on the trading block that I believe will get moved before the picks come in on Thursday/Friday, the way the board sits in the top 10 as far as top 10 players and fits, as well as a QB (or possibly two) likely to be snatched up at the bottom of round one, I'm going to include a few trades in this mock just for #### and giggles. It is only a mock draft after all. Plus there are bound to be a lot more trades than even I project in this.


1st Round

1. Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Fisher, OT Central Michigan

I mentioned around the Senior Bowl time here and there that I believed Fisher could be the best tackle available. It seems some have jumped on that bandwagon. This could change if the Joeckel bandwagon gains steam from now til Thursday, but I'll stick with my guy here.

2. Jacksonville Jaguars - Sharrif Floyd, DT Florida

Could they go Geno? Sure, but if I'm the Jags I steer clear of this QB class and stick with Gabbert. Not because I believe in him, more so because I don't believe in this class either and this team has FAR too many needs to risk missing on another QB. Sticking to the board here with Floyd over Jordan, not that Jordan is a reach, but Floyd is higher on the board. Sort of like what Denver did with Von Miller over Marcell Dareus. Dareus filled the bigger need and wouldn't have been a reach, but when it came down to it Miller was the better prospect and also filled a need.

*3. Arizona Cardinals (via Oak) - Luke Joeckel, OT Texas A&M

Cardinals are desperate for a tackle and if they sit put, probably won't get one. They have more leverage than Miami or San Diego sitting at 7 as it would take less for them to move up to land Joeckel. So that's what they do here.

4. Philadelphia Eagles - Dion Jordan, OLB Oregon

With Joeckel and Fisher off the board, it's between Lane Johnson and Jordan here. Both fill big needs, but I have Jordan higher on my board, so they go in that direction here. Doesn't hurt that Jordan played for Chip Kelly at Oregon, and Kelly has been on record as saying that Jordan was a "special player" for their team.

5. Detroit Lions - Lane Johnson, OT Oklahoma

Some may say defense is the bigger need here, but I don't agree. Left tackle is equally as dire with Allen, Peppers and Matthews beating up Matthew Stafford year in and year out. Ansah and Johnson are very close on my board, both are raw but extremely gifted physically. Ultimately Johnson is further along than Ansah in his development and thus the pick here. Plus the draft is a little deeper in the 2nd and 3rd rounds in the pass rush department then the left tackle department.

6. Cleveland Browns - Geno Smith, QB West Virginia

Now I personally would not make this pick. I think Smith is a large reach here, especially to a cold weather team. However, I have a strange feeling that the Browns new head coach Chudzinski could fall in love with Geno Smith, as he got this job based on the offense he created for Cam Newton and Geno can be a Newton-lite to fit that scheme. Plus with Weeden or Campbell to start this year, Geno is under no pressure to start immediately unless he can earn the job.

*7. Oakland Raiders (via Ari) - Star Lotulelei, DT Utah

Defensive line is the need here. Ziggy Ansah is another possibility, but the Raiders are void of talent all over the roster and may be better served with the more plug and play type of player that Star provides, rather then the developmental Ansah. I could really go either way here though.

8. Buffalo Bills - Ziggy Ansah, DE BYU

With Geno off the board (and not really fitting the Bills anyway) the Bill have to choose between monumentally reaching for Nassib, Barkley or Manuel, or adding to a depleted roster in another way. The Bills have always been a team that has surprised me on draft day by picking players that fill needs that are much lower in their order. So with this pick I passed on QB and WR, and leaned towards Ansah or Warmack. Even with Mario Williams, the Bills need a pass rusher on the opposite side as Mark Anderson was a FA bust for them last year. So finally Ansah's value is too much to pass on.

9. New York Jets - Barkevious Mingo, OLB LSU

The Jets could go in a number of ways here. If they trade Revis (which as you'll soon see, I believe they will) Milliner could make sense here. But I don't think they would consider trading him if they weren't content with Cromartie and Wilson as their starting CBs. Warmack could also be a fit at this point, but ultimately I went with Mingo, who both fills a large need and provides decent value. The Jets lack pass rushers and after Mingo there seems to be a bit of a drop off.


10. Tennessee Titans - Dee Milliner, CB Alabama

After signing Levitre, the Titans can opt to pass on Warmack here and fill probably their biggest need in the draft at CB. Milliner also provides great value at this point and brings a physical presence in the secondary that the Titans have lacked since the departure of Cortland Finnegan.

11. San Diego Chargers - Chance Warmack, OG Alabama

The Chargers offensive line has become a mess, so they really can't be picky with who they pick here. They may want a LT but they LTs worthy of this spot are all gone. So they settle for the best guard prospect here and land themselves a player who will likely be considered top 5 at his position with in a few years.

12. Miami Dolphins - DJ Hayden, CB Houston

Anyone you knows me, knows that I'm a huge Mike Mayock guy. Not that I believe his word is gospel, but I trust his word a helluva lot more than any other draft analyst. I'm not bold enough to make him the first corner off the board, even if Mayock has him ranked as his top corner. But when he says that Hayden will go between 10-20, I trust him.

*13. New York Jets (via TB) - Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame

Well here's where the Revis trade comes into play. I really like this pick as a bit of a surprise pick, Revis trade or not. The Jets need help in the passing game, but still have Holmes and Hill (whom they drafted high last year). Austin is a possibility here depending how they feel about Jeremy Kerley in the slot again this year. But with Dustin Keller gone, and Eifert sitting here, who I believe is criminally undervalued in most mock drafts, the fit seems good. However, as I alluded to, even if Revis is not traded here, I feel Eifert is a darkhorse pick for the Bucs as they have a large need for a pass catching TE as well, even if everyone is convinced it CB or bust for the team.

14. Carolina Panthers - Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri

This is probably the easiest fit in the entire first round. Unless Richardson is gone, which could be the case, I really don't expect this pick to be anyone else.

15. New Orleans Saints - Jarvis Jones, OLB Georgia

You'll see largely varying opinions on Jones. Some think he's a top 10 pick, some think he shouldn't be drafted in the first round at all. He has apparently been cleared medically (although there is still obvious risk there), and his 40 time does not concern me as much as it does others. He is simply too good on tape to fall out of the 1st round, and I see a very nice fit here in New Orleans, who is desperate for pass rushers that fit their new 3-4 scheme.

16. St. Louis Rams - Tavon Austin, WR West Virginia

No Danny Amendola leaves a big hole at slot WR for the Rams. Who better to fill that void than Austin? Even with Jon Cooper still on the board, Austin is too good a value and too perfect a fit to pass on here.

17. Pittsburgh Steelers - Kenny Vaccaro, S Texas

The Steelers are a tough fit. They would like a pass rusher, but their are none that have value at this point and the Steelers don't reach. They could go with Patterson at this point to fill the void left by Mike Wallace. However I think their WR's are good enough with Big Ben at QB and the Steelers have had a knack for finding value and scheme fits in the later rounds at the position. Equally, if not more likely is they could look to add to their aging secondary. Troy Polamalu, Ike Taylor and Ryan Clark are all in the twilight of their careers and a youth movement should be on the way. Xavier Rhodes could makes sense here as well, but I'm going to stick with the Steelers tendency to draft for the future. Plus it is much harder to find a true playmaker at safety later in the draft and Vaccaro fits that bill.

18. Dallas Cowboys - Jon Cooper, OG North Carolina

The Cowboys couldn't be happier than if Cooper were to fall into their laps. Pair him up with Tyron Smith, and they'll have their left side locked up for years.

19. New York Giants - DJ Fluker, OT Alabama

The Giants have invested a lot of high picks into their defensive line in years past, now it's time to turn their attention to the offensive side. Fluker is very similar to Michael Oher from a few years ago, huge behemoth tackle who can simply overpower defensive offensive lineman. However, he does not have the feet you look for in a LT. Good news for the Giants is they have their LT shored up with Will Beatty. Fluker gives them a pair of bookends to be feared, and down the road he should be one of, if not the best RT in the league.

20. Chicago Bears - Xavier Rhodes, CB Florida St.

The Bears have filled a number of needs in free agency and have given themselves some wiggle room in the draft to truly take the best player available. The Bears corners last year were certainly one of the bright spots on the team, as both Peanut Tillman and Tim Jennings earned their spots in Hawaii. However, neither is getting any younger and Rhodes provides a great value pick at this point.

21. Cincinnati Bengals - Alec Ogletree, LB Georgia

The Bengals have made a few moves at linebacker resigning Rey Maualuga and recently signing James Harrison, which makes LB less of an immediate need in this draft. However, neither is a long term solution at their positions as Harrison probably only has a year or two left and Maualuga is one of the most overrated LBs in the league. Ogletree fits the mold of a Bengal in that he's extremely gifted physically and provides flexibility in Mike Zimmer's defense depending what they plan to do with Burfict and Maualuga. He also fits the "trouble child" mold that the Bengals seem to have no concern with taking a risk on.

22. St Louis Rams (via Was) - Eddie Lacy, RB Alabama

The Rams continue to stock up on offensive playmakers to surround Sam Bradford. Something Bradford has severely lacked in his short time in St. Louis. With the departure of Steven Jackson, the Rams bring in a similar downhill running back in Lacy.

23. Minnesota Vikings - Cordarrelle Patterson, WR Tennessee

With the rumors surrounding Patterson's potential drop in the draft, I am more than willing to buy in. I have been more than vocal with my positive opinion of Patterson. Could Patterson be the 3rd talented WR with a supposed diva-like mentality to fall into the Vikings laps (see Moss, Randy & Harvin, Percy)? I certainly hope so. This kid will bring immediate playmaking ability in both the return game and on offense, and could develop into a star at the WR position with the right coaching.

24. Indianapolis Colts - Bjoern Werner, DE/OLB Florida St.

A strong fit for Chuck Pagano's hybrid defense, Werner compares favorably to Paul Kruger. A player Pagano coached in Baltimore and reported tried to persuade into joining the Colts this off season. Werner is the kind of solid football player that well run organizations like the Colts seem to have fall into their laps year in and year out.

25. Minnesota Vikings (via Sea) - Manti Te'o, MLB Notre Dame

Did you really expect anything else? I think I may be one of, if not the biggest Te'o supporter on this board. I am not shy in my belief that not only is Te'o a solid football player, but a strong fit for our defense. Let the hate ensue, but I guess we'll all see on Thursday :wink:

26. Green Bay Packers - Justin Pugh, OT Syracuse

A very underrated offensive lineman prospect, I would not be at all surprised to here Pugh's name get called a lot earlier than many mock drafts have him pegged. Especially with the inevitable run on offensive lineman that is bound to happen in the first round. Pugh's biggest weakness is his relatively short arm length, something the Packers did not shy away from when drafting Bryan Bulaga a few years back.

27. Houston Texans - DeAndre Hopkins, WR Clemson

As so many on this site will attest to, Hopkins is a very strong WR prospect. While not as physically talented as some of the other WRs in this draft, he appears to be one of the "safer" wideouts available. He won't be pushing Megatron as the best WR in the NFL any time soon, but for a team like Houston simply looking for a compliment to Andre Johnson, Hopkins will certainly not disappoint.

28. Denver Broncos - Sylvester Williams, DT North Carolina

Denver has done a nice job in recent drafts of filling many of its needs. They don't have many of them in this upcoming draft. However they could use a large space eater in the middle of their line to pair with last years underrated rookie Derek Wolfe. A pass rusher such as Tank Carradine, DaMontre Moore or Margus Hunt could be in the mix here as well with Elvis Dumervil's departure.

29. New England Patriots - Justin Hunter, WR Tennessee

Bill Belichick has never drafted a WR in the first round in all of his tenure as a head coach (including his short stint with the Browns). An argument that legitimately could be used to argue this pick, but they said the same about his tendency to avoid the LB position a few years ago. That was until he drafted Jerod Mayo and then again Dont'a Hightower. I am not a huge fan of Hunter's personally, his drops concern me greatly. However I have a feeling that his physical gifts are bound to get him drafted in the first round. The Patriots have had a tendency for drafting athletes recently, and I think this could be a surprise pick that makes sense come draft day.

30. Atlanta Falcons - Desmond Trufant, CB Washington

A gifted zone corner, Trufant is a nice fit both scheme-wise and value-wise for the Falcons here at 30. Don't rule out the rumors of the Falcons making another blockbuster trade up to nab a corner like Milliner or Hayden. I'm simply not bold enough to make such a leap, and will settle for Trufant as solid fit here.

31. San Francisco 49ers - Johnathan Cyprien, S Florida International

With Dashon Goldson's loss the need at safety has become glaring for the 9ers. Recently signed Craig Dahl is abysmal in coverage and Donte Whitner is one of the most overrated safeties in the league. It's a toss up here between the two safeties from Florida here, but I'm siding with the smaller schooled Cyprien here for his mere size advantage over Elam.

*32. Buffalo Bills - Ryan Nassib, QB Syracuse

The Bills don't risk waiting around in the 2nd to land their guy, they jump up with the more than willing Baltimore Ravens (who have worked miracles in moving out of the first round and still landing a quality player). Nassib is smart, works hard and already has experience in Marrone's offense. He may not be the most gifted physically or have the strongest arm, but he should provide the Bills with the quality starting QB they have so desperately been looking for.



2nd Round


33. Jacksonville Jaguars - Johnathan Banks, CB Mississippi St.

Better football player than athlete and has the size that Bradley grew accustomed to in Seattle.

34. San Francisco 49ers (via KC) - Zach Ertz, TE Stanford

Athletic TE to pair with Davis. Can fill the HB role that was left by the departed Delanie Walker.

35. Philadelphia Eagles - Kyle Long, OL Oregon

Chip Kelly adds another one of his Oregon alumni with the versatile brother of Chris and son of Howie. Long can provide an immediate starter at either RT or RG for the Eagles.

36. Detroit Lions - Tank Carradine, DE Florida St.

Lions take an injury risk on the much need pass rusher they passed on in round 1.

37. Cincinnati Bengals (via Oak) - Matt Elam, S Florida

All around solid, but undersized safety to pair with Reggie Nelson.

38. Arizona Cardinals - DaMontre Moore, OLB Texas A&M

Cardinals pass on QB in round 2 and take a falling pass rusher who fits nicely with their 3-4 scheme.

39. New York Jets - EJ Manuel, QB Florida St.

You didn't expect the Jets to stick with Mark Sanchez and David Garrard at QB did you?

40. Tennessee Titans - Kevin Minter, MLB LSU

Colin McCarthy has been a huge disappointment for the Titans, missing far too many tackles. Something that should not happen with Minter.

*41. Baltimore Ravens (via Buf) - Arthur Brown, ILB Kansas St.

As always, the Ravens land themselves a great value after trading down and find an ideal replacement for Ray Lewis.

*42. Kansas City Chiefs (via Mia) - Matt Barkley, QB USC

Chiefs land their heir apparent to Alex Smith in a trade for Brandon Albert.

43. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Johnathan Hankins, NT Ohio St.

With Revis locking down the corner spot, the Bucs turn their attention to a mammoth tackle to pair with Gerald McCoy.

44. Carolina Panthers - Keenan Allen, WR California

Panthers nab the reliable Boldin-esque Allen here to start opposite speedster Steve Smith.

45. San Diego Chargers - Menelik Watson, OT Florida St.

A gifted, but raw tackle the Chargers can fit in next to Warmack to solidify the left side of their oline.

46. St. Louis Rams - Eric Reid, S LSU

Physical safety that the Rams desperately need.

47. Dallas Cowboys - Kawann Short, DT Purdue

A disruptive 3-tech to pair with equally disruptive NT Jay Ratliff.

48. Pittsburgh Steelers - Markus Wheaton, WR Oregon St.

A speedy replacement for Mike Wallace who also brings more dimensions than Wallace ever did.

49. New York Giants - Margus Hunt, DE SMU

Raw but physically gifted and versatile. Exactly what the Giants love in defensive end prospects.

50. Chicago Bears - Khaseem Greene, LB Rutgers

Technically sound and hard working LB who could play multiple positions for the Bears.

51. Washington Redskins - Robert Woods, WR USC

Talented possession WR to pair with Pierre Garcon and add more weapons for RG3.

52. Minnesota Vikings - Jamar Taylor, CB Boise St.

Wishful thinking? Maybe, but I would not be surprised to see Taylor last this long. Physical zone corner, willing tackler and immediate impact nickel corner. Great replacement for Antoine Winfield.

53. Cincinnati Bengals - Giovanni Bernard, RB North Carolina

Talented scatback who makes a great compliment to the bigger Benjarvus Green-Ellis.

54. Miami Dolphins (via Ind) - Alex Okafor, DE Texas

High motor defensive end prospect to pair opposite Cameron Wake.

55. Green Bay Packers - Montee Ball, RB Wisconsin

Physical one cut runner who makes a nice compliment to DeJuan Harris and comes right from their backyard.

56. Seattle Seahawks - Montori Hughes, DT Tennesse-Martin

May be considered a reach with John Jenkins and Jesse Williams still on the board, but Seattle has a knack for finding underrated gems and Hughes could be just that.

57. Houston Texans - John Jenkins, NT Georgia

Texans have lacked a true nose tackle since switching to a 3-4 defense, but Jenkins is perfect to fill that role.

58. Denver Broncos - Robert Alford, CB Southeastern Louisiana

Smaller corner with nimble feet, can be groomed to eventually replace aging Champ Bailey.

59. New England Patriots - David Amerson, CB NC State

Physically gifted corner that fits the Patriots preference for taller, versatile DBs. Could be moved to safety.

60. Atlanta Falcons - Gavin Escobar, TE San Diego St.

Not as physically gifted as he appears on tape, but if he can play to his potential, could turn out to be a real steal here and an ideal replacement for Tony Gonzalez.

61. San Francisco 49ers - Jesse Williams, DL Alabama

Versatile defensive lineman who fits the 9ers scheme. Can play on the nose or at defensive end and is a nice replacement for departed Isaac Sopoaga.

62. Baltimore Ravens - Tyrann Mathieu, CB LSU

Character risk, but should stay in check within a mature Ravens locker. Extremely gifted playmaker at nickel corner, could be the steal of the draft.
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