DeeEss57 wrote:
What's the difference between Lemond being behind by 58 seconds and making a move to win by :08 in 1989 and now?
The last stage was a race against the clock that year ....
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People really like Landis in France, and a few years ago, Greg Lemond was more popular than French riders ......Mr. X wrote: Another American is going to win the Tour. I can just imagine all the groaning in France over the sight of another American on the victory stand in Paris. Wonder how long before the French press will accuse Landis of using EPO with a new masking agent that is unknown to the world?
Demi wrote:Sorry, he's a completely natural HERO would single handedly defeated the cancer monster and never said he took anything in the hospital, and the urine was spiked by the evil french to set him up, as well as friends / acquiantences being busted for steroids. All coincidence.
Some of us don't care enough about it to wear rose colored "Armstrong is american hero" glasses....if he was black and pushing for a record in an american sport everyone here would be all over him, hell, if he was pushing for a record he'd already be guilty. Instead he's off beating the french in bicycle racing and the american media acts like there is no way he can be guilty of anything.
So he is guilty by association? Armstrong rode against Tyler Hamilton, Jan Ullrich, Ivan Basso, and Marco Pantani, and they all have been caught doping or breaking rules. Armstrong was not - even though Armstrong has been one of the most tested bike riders in the sport over the last half decade.Demi wrote:Sorry, he's a completely natural HERO would single handedly defeated the cancer monster and never said he took anything in the hospital, and the urine was spiked by the evil french to set him up, as well as friends / acquiantences being busted for steroids. All coincidence.
That makes many assumptions.Some of us don't care enough about it to wear rose colored "Armstrong is american hero" glasses....
That is insulting. What does skin color have to do with it? Bonds was not being tested for these substances at the time like Armstrong was over the past five years.if he was black and pushing for a record in an american sport everyone here would be all over him,
There is a way he could be guilty, but it is unlikely given the weak evidence so far - certainly in the last four years of his tour wins with the emphasis on testing the top riders.hell, if he was pushing for a record he'd already be guilty. Instead he's off beating the french in bicycle racing and the american media acts like there is no way he can be guilty of anything.
O no.Kansas Viking wrote:Guess Landis' win wasn't that amazing after all.
It is an issue. Three of the top riders from the 1995 Tour de France did not even start the 1996 race because of blood doping. Players have been banned before, and random testing is done on every stage of every race.*gasp* Color me shocked. I am soo surprised that this would even come up. Why is this even an issue.
What does this have to do with Lance Armstrong? Lance had not tested positive. He wasn't even in this race.The most horrifying thing about this is that Demi might actually be right for once!
I have actually heard some media talking heads say that this proves that Lance Armstrong was doping. Huh??? What a bunch of idiots.Minniman wrote: What does this have to do with Lance Armstrong? Lance had not tested positive. He wasn't even in this race.