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I know there are not many of you that follow the NBA right now but I have some questions forthose of you who do.

1. Is Kurt Rambis that bad of a coach?

2. How do you fix the defense?

3. Is David Kahn the biggest moron ever?

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PurpleMustReign wrote:
I know there are not many of you that follow the NBA right now but I have some questions forthose of you who do.

1. Is Kurt Rambis that bad of a coach?

2. How do you fix the defense?

3. Is David Kahn the biggest moron ever?


1. i think it's too early to tell. he was regarded around the league as one of th best assistants in the game for years so he is certainly knowledgeable. however, i think 1. and 2. work together because he is clearly not emphasizing defense. i understand that we are a young team, and i think we're still a few years from the playoffs. but even bad teams should be able to play defense and be prepared mentally. that debacle at the free throw line the other night against the heat shows how out of touch this team is. there is no excuse for that kind of play and in the end that falls on the coach. but phil jackson wouldn't be able to coach THIS team to many more wins this year i don't think. couple more years and i think they'll be an exciting team to watch.

3. i'm afraid so. :wallbang:

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in response to the phil jackson comment, I'm not sure how good a coach that guy really is. he pretty much just goes to whatever team is the favorite to win a championship and coaches them. First Jordan, then Kobe. My impression is that guys like Jerry Sloan and Lenny Wilkens were great coaches. They always had well coached teams and were often competative with less talent.

I'll leave all my negative comments about the NBA off, and just leave it at that for today. 8)


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in response to the phil jackson comment, I'm not sure how good a coach that guy really is. he pretty much just goes to whatever team is the favorite to win a championship and coaches them. First Jordan, then Kobe. My impression is that guys like Jerry Sloan and Lenny Wilkens were great coaches. They always had well coached teams and were often competative with less talent.

I'll leave all my negative comments about the NBA off, and just leave it at that for today. 8)


ya that's one of those things that people can argue about forever, and there really isn't a right answer. people say belichick i a genius. others say it's cause he has tom brady. others say brady is only good because of the coach. some say jordan and kobe won all phil's rings for him. others point out that neither superstar won before phil got there.

some say coacing a team as talented as the lakers should be simple. others point out that coaching pro athletes is already difficult because of all the egos, and coaching a team with such superstar is actually more difficult.

i have no idea. but i know he's regarded as the best coach in the league, and he can coach anywhere he wants for about any amount he wants. all his players seem to respect him and think he's brilliant. they likely know far better than i.....

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in response to the phil jackson comment, I'm not sure how good a coach that guy really is. he pretty much just goes to whatever team is the favorite to win a championship and coaches them. First Jordan, then Kobe. My impression is that guys like Jerry Sloan and Lenny Wilkens were great coaches. They always had well coached teams and were often competative with less talent.

I'll leave all my negative comments about the NBA off, and just leave it at that for today. 8)


ya that's one of those things that people can argue about forever, and there really isn't a right answer. people say belichick i a genius. others say it's cause he has tom brady. others say brady is only good because of the coach. some say jordan and kobe won all phil's rings for him. others point out that neither superstar won before phil got there.

some say coacing a team as talented as the lakers should be simple. others point out that coaching pro athletes is already difficult because of all the egos, and coaching a team with such superstar is actually more difficult.

i have no idea. but i know he's regarded as the best coach in the league, and he can coach anywhere he wants for about any amount he wants. all his players seem to respect him and think he's brilliant. they likely know far better than i.....


those are fair points and interesting arguments. I'd still take sloan over jackson in a locker room brawl though! :wink:


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TrenchGoon wrote:
vikeinmontana wrote:
TrenchGoon wrote:
in response to the phil jackson comment, I'm not sure how good a coach that guy really is. he pretty much just goes to whatever team is the favorite to win a championship and coaches them. First Jordan, then Kobe. My impression is that guys like Jerry Sloan and Lenny Wilkens were great coaches. They always had well coached teams and were often competative with less talent.

I'll leave all my negative comments about the NBA off, and just leave it at that for today. 8)


ya that's one of those things that people can argue about forever, and there really isn't a right answer. people say belichick i a genius. others say it's cause he has tom brady. others say brady is only good because of the coach. some say jordan and kobe won all phil's rings for him. others point out that neither superstar won before phil got there.

some say coacing a team as talented as the lakers should be simple. others point out that coaching pro athletes is already difficult because of all the egos, and coaching a team with such superstar is actually more difficult.

i have no idea. but i know he's regarded as the best coach in the league, and he can coach anywhere he wants for about any amount he wants. all his players seem to respect him and think he's brilliant. they likely know far better than i.....


those are fair points and interesting arguments. I'd still take sloan over jackson in a locker room brawl though! :wink:


me too. i love sloan and i was sad to see him basically get ran out of town after doing so much for the jazz. but he doesn't put up with crap and when he gets players that refuse to listen, he walked away. i got the upmost respect for that dude.

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What an ulgy season. Again, I will ive Rambis one more season, although IMO he should be on a short leash. I can't imagine a team as young as the Wolves being too successful no matter what "Scheme" the coach teaches. I do think his offense is too complicated and that he needs to practice defensw more.
I would love to see the Wolves draft Kemba Walker. That guy is a beast. He carried UCONN to the NCAA title almost on his own. I woul dlove to see Walker and Rubio on the court for the wolves. Johnny Flynn isn't going to make it, IMO, at lesat not with the Wolves and Rambis' system.

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What an ulgy season. Again, I will ive Rambis one more season, although IMO he should be on a short leash. I can't imagine a team as young as the Wolves being too successful no matter what "Scheme" the coach teaches. I do think his offense is too complicated and that he needs to practice defensw more.
I would love to see the Wolves draft Kemba Walker. That guy is a beast. He carried UCONN to the NCAA title almost on his own. I woul dlove to see Walker and Rubio on the court for the wolves. Johnny Flynn isn't going to make it, IMO, at lesat not with the Wolves and Rambis' system.


I blame Kahn a lot more than Rambis for this mess. He picks 2 PG with consecutive picks in Flynn and Rubio and gets squat out of it.


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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6617479


Interesting, Rubio is coming to Minnesota...

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Well, well, well... Can Rubio save the Wolves?

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/feature_ricky_rubio_central_2011_06_14.html


I still think they need a veteran big-man. I am actually looking forward to seeing Rubio in the Wolves jersey next season.

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Well, well, well... Can Rubio save the Wolves?


Wow, that's a ludicrous whitewash of the last two years. Saying it's been beneficial for him to play in Spain in any way other than financial (his buyout is lower) is BS.


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Well, well, well... Can Rubio save the Wolves?


No. Everything I've read about Rubio is that he's a distributor and that's it; guy can't shoot or play D or anything else. Just passing. The Wolves need more than an elite passer to turn into a contender. Plus, apparently he had a bad year in Spain. I know I can't be the only person who thinks Rubio is going to be a massive disappointment. Highly doubtful that he meats the expectations that have built up over the last couple of years since he was drafted. There will be the "he's still young" argument for a while, but that can only last for a few years. Then he'll go to a bigger market team and turn into a star, because he'll have talent around him.

And if this team wasn't enough of a joke, there's the whole thing in the news now about Kahn giving Rambis a homework assignment to write a paper on what he would do with the team if he returned for a third year. Write a paper? How about they sit down and talk face-to-face like men instead of Rambis handing his essay to schoolmaster Kahn?

Kahn is a failure. All he's done in his time with the team is take them from being "one of the worst teams in the NBA" to the "THE worst team in the NBA".


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PurpleMustReign wrote:
Well, well, well... Can Rubio save the Wolves?


No. Everything I've read about Rubio is that he's a distributor and that's it; guy can't shoot or play D or anything else. Just passing. The Wolves need more than an elite passer to turn into a contender. Plus, apparently he had a bad year in Spain. I know I can't be the only person who thinks Rubio is going to be a massive disappointment. Highly doubtful that he meats the expectations that have built up over the last couple of years since he was drafted. There will be the "he's still young" argument for a while, but that can only last for a few years. Then he'll go to a bigger market team and turn into a star, because he'll have talent around him.

And if this team wasn't enough of a joke, there's the whole thing in the news now about Kahn giving Rambis a homework assignment to write a paper on what he would do with the team if he returned for a third year. Write a paper? How about they sit down and talk face-to-face like men instead of Rambis handing his essay to schoolmaster Kahn?

Kahn is a failure. All he's done in his time with the team is take them from being "one of the worst teams in the NBA" to the "THE worst team in the NBA".


One of the jobs of a point guard is to distribute the ball and make everyone else better. The highlights I saw of him seemed to indicate that he is capable of doing that. We will see, but I am excited to see what he can do in the NBA.
As for Kahn, I wish Taylor would fire this moron. Why are Minnesota Sports Owners so reluctant to fire morons?

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HornedMessiah wrote:
PurpleMustReign wrote:
Well, well, well... Can Rubio save the Wolves?


No. Everything I've read about Rubio is that he's a distributor and that's it; guy can't shoot or play D or anything else. Just passing. The Wolves need more than an elite passer to turn into a contender. Plus, apparently he had a bad year in Spain. I know I can't be the only person who thinks Rubio is going to be a massive disappointment. Highly doubtful that he meats the expectations that have built up over the last couple of years since he was drafted. There will be the "he's still young" argument for a while, but that can only last for a few years. Then he'll go to a bigger market team and turn into a star, because he'll have talent around him.

And if this team wasn't enough of a joke, there's the whole thing in the news now about Kahn giving Rambis a homework assignment to write a paper on what he would do with the team if he returned for a third year. Write a paper? How about they sit down and talk face-to-face like men instead of Rambis handing his essay to schoolmaster Kahn?

Kahn is a failure. All he's done in his time with the team is take them from being "one of the worst teams in the NBA" to the "THE worst team in the NBA".


He's going to find those expectations, grab a hold of them, and smack the #### of them with a big old steak. He's gonna meat those expectations like expectations have never been meated before!!!

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He's going to find those expectations, grab a hold of them, and smack the #### of them with a big old steak. He's gonna meat those expectations like expectations have never been meated before!!!


:confused: :spank:

Heard on ESPN radio today a rumor that the Lakers offered Pau Gasol to the TWolves for Kevin Love and the 2nd pick in the draft. Seems like a pretty crappy trade offer, for the TWolves that is.


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HornedMessiah wrote:
TrenchGoon wrote:
He's going to find those expectations, grab a hold of them, and smack the #### of them with a big old steak. He's gonna meat those expectations like expectations have never been meated before!!!


:confused: :spank:

Heard on ESPN radio today a rumor that the Lakers offered Pau Gasol to the TWolves for Kevin Love and the 2nd pick in the draft. Seems like a pretty crappy trade offer, for the TWolves that is.


Sounds like a good offer to make if you're the Lakers and know that Kahn is a moron


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Rambis is out as coach

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LOL...this is one of the worst handlings of the HC spot I've ever seen. Fire your coach on draft day?!

Plus, the whole homework essay thing...what coach is going to want to come here and work for bosses like this?


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LOL...this is one of the worst handlings of the HC spot I've ever seen. Fire your coach on draft day?!

Plus, the whole homework essay thing...what coach is going to want to come here and work for bosses like this?



Exactly. Im sure the Wolves will attract a big time HC with the way they run the team. :roll:


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Wow, check this out. Bill Simmons uses two trades to turn the TWolves into a contender.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/669 ... de-picture

Phoenix trades Marcin Gortat (50 cents) and Jared Dudley (quarter) to Minnesota for the no. 2 pick (50 cents), Jonny Flynn (dime), and Nik Pekovic (dime). Final tally: Phoenix (70 cents), Minnesota (75 cents).

Minnesota trades Michael Beasley (quarter) and Martell Webster (nickel) to Detroit for Ben Gordon (dime) and Austin Daye (dime).13 Final tally: Minnesota (20 cents), Detroit (30 cents).

unfortunately, he notes that Phoenix isn't willing to let go of Gortat, so it won't happen.


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Wow, check this out. Bill Simmons uses two trades to turn the TWolves into a contender.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/669 ... de-picture

Phoenix trades Marcin Gortat (50 cents) and Jared Dudley (quarter) to Minnesota for the no. 2 pick (50 cents), Jonny Flynn (dime), and Nik Pekovic (dime). Final tally: Phoenix (70 cents), Minnesota (75 cents).

Minnesota trades Michael Beasley (quarter) and Martell Webster (nickel) to Detroit for Ben Gordon (dime) and Austin Daye (dime).13 Final tally: Minnesota (20 cents), Detroit (30 cents).

unfortunately, he notes that Phoenix isn't willing to let go of Gortat, so it won't happen.



They need a new GM too.

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it gets worse for the wolves

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-wp5562

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The second round of Thursday night's NBA draft was full of obscure players from foreign leagues, but no one selected has as unknown a profile as Tanguy Ngombo. A 6-6 forward from the Qatar League, Ngombo was virtually unknown by even the most committed draftniks until Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress.com tweeted about his potential selection by the Minnesota Timberwolves in the second round.

Sure enough, Givony was right -- Minnesota took Ngombo on Thursday night with the 58th overall pick. ESPN appeared to have ripped his highlight video straight from YouTube and his profile photo from Google Images, while analyst Fran Fraschilla compared him to Sidd Finch, a baseball phenom George Plimpton made up for a now-notorious April Fool's Day hoax in a 1985 issue of Sports Illustrated.

It turns out that Fraschilla was at least partially right: Ngombo exists, but his story doesn't check out. When the Wolves selected him Thursday night, they thought they were getting a 21-year-old golden nugget hidden from all other times. Instead, they found pyrite, because Ngombo is really 26 years old. Givony tweeted the truth on Friday afternoon:



this should be enough to get the gm fired.


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it gets worse for the wolves

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-wp5562

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The second round of Thursday night's NBA draft was full of obscure players from foreign leagues, but no one selected has as unknown a profile as Tanguy Ngombo. A 6-6 forward from the Qatar League, Ngombo was virtually unknown by even the most committed draftniks until Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress.com tweeted about his potential selection by the Minnesota Timberwolves in the second round.

Sure enough, Givony was right -- Minnesota took Ngombo on Thursday night with the 58th overall pick. ESPN appeared to have ripped his highlight video straight from YouTube and his profile photo from Google Images, while analyst Fran Fraschilla compared him to Sidd Finch, a baseball phenom George Plimpton made up for a now-notorious April Fool's Day hoax in a 1985 issue of Sports Illustrated.

It turns out that Fraschilla was at least partially right: Ngombo exists, but his story doesn't check out. When the Wolves selected him Thursday night, they thought they were getting a 21-year-old golden nugget hidden from all other times. Instead, they found pyrite, because Ngombo is really 26 years old. Givony tweeted the truth on Friday afternoon:



this should be enough to get the gm fired.



PLEASE Taylor fire this moron.

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TrenchGoon wrote:
it gets worse for the wolves

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-wp5562

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The second round of Thursday night's NBA draft was full of obscure players from foreign leagues, but no one selected has as unknown a profile as Tanguy Ngombo. A 6-6 forward from the Qatar League, Ngombo was virtually unknown by even the most committed draftniks until Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress.com tweeted about his potential selection by the Minnesota Timberwolves in the second round.

Sure enough, Givony was right -- Minnesota took Ngombo on Thursday night with the 58th overall pick. ESPN appeared to have ripped his highlight video straight from YouTube and his profile photo from Google Images, while analyst Fran Fraschilla compared him to Sidd Finch, a baseball phenom George Plimpton made up for a now-notorious April Fool's Day hoax in a 1985 issue of Sports Illustrated.

It turns out that Fraschilla was at least partially right: Ngombo exists, but his story doesn't check out. When the Wolves selected him Thursday night, they thought they were getting a 21-year-old golden nugget hidden from all other times. Instead, they found pyrite, because Ngombo is really 26 years old. Givony tweeted the truth on Friday afternoon:



this should be enough to get the gm fired.



PLEASE Taylor fire this moron.


It's a second round pick in the NBA. The failure rate is astronomical, so really, who cares. If you want to fire him, do if for his past drafts, not this pick.


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It's a second round pick in the NBA. The failure rate is astronomical, so really, who cares. If you want to fire him, do if for his past drafts, not this pick.


I don't really follow basketball, and for all I know this kid will turn out to be great, but it just seems to me like a real bonehead move to select a guy knowing so little about him.


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It's a second round pick in the NBA. The failure rate is astronomical, so really, who cares. If you want to fire him, do if for his past drafts, not this pick.


I don't really follow basketball, and for all I know this kid will turn out to be great, but it just seems to me like a real bonehead move to select a guy knowing so little about him.


It was the 57th of 60 picks, there's nobody with any serious talent left, so you take a wild flier on a guy.


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glg wrote:
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glg wrote:
It's a second round pick in the NBA. The failure rate is astronomical, so really, who cares. If you want to fire him, do if for his past drafts, not this pick.


I don't really follow basketball, and for all I know this kid will turn out to be great, but it just seems to me like a real bonehead move to select a guy knowing so little about him.


It was the 57th of 60 picks, there's nobody with any serious talent left, so you take a wild flier on a guy.



fair enough, I stand corrected 8)


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i'm with goon on this one. obviously there is not a plethora of nba ready guys who are drafted in the fifties. but that is still no excuse to get a guy you know nothing about. i mean, you could take the two best players from every team that cracked the sweet 16 this year and find a guy with talent and one that you can have even basic knowledge about. i'm not questioning the overall talent of these guys picked later.....but they may as well drafted me! no excuse for drafting a guy that you know so little about.....

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Isiah Thomas was still there

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Isiah Thomas was still there


No, he's busy running the Knicks via backchannels. Isaiah, however, was there. ;)


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