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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by Raptorman » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:23 pm

This is a good read on the NFLPA's stance. And it makes sense.

http://www.bplegal.com/webfiles/New%20Cliff%20Notes.pdf
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:16 pm

ESPN legal analyst believes it's only a matter of time before the courts rule in favor of the NFL: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/ ... -tom-brady
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by Mothman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:43 am

I thought this was a nice, simple explanation of some of the things currently going on with Deflategate:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patr ... _attorneys
On Aug. 19, attorneys for both sides argued their case to Berman. The judge spent considerable time poking holes in the NFL’s case, while allowing Kessler to argue with very little interruption. After finishing his argument, Kessler had one of his associates give Berman a list of cases that he said bolstered Brady’s case.

The NFL said the cases didn’t apply to Brady’s arbitration.

“These cases confirm that courts vacate arbitration awards only in extraordinary circumstances, none of which are present here,” NFL attorney Daniel Nash wrote yesterday.

That is the essence of the argument the NFL has made from the beginning: Judges very rarely overturn arbitration awards, and Berman should follow that rule in Brady’s case.

Brady’s attorneys, meanwhile, have argued that there are four reasons to overturn what they call an unprecedented suspension: that Brady had no notice; that no standards were set for testing the PSI of the footballs; that Goodell was biased; and that the arbitration was unfair.
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:26 am

Tom Brady - QB - Patriots

Tom Brady and the NFL failed to reach a settlement Monday in their dispute over Brady's four-game suspension.

The talks went nowhere and the hearing was over quickly. Fox Sports' Mike Garafolo reports a decision from U.S. District Judge Richard Berman is expected today or tomorrow. We are finally nearing the end of this ridiculous saga.
Source: Mike Garafolo on Twitter
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Post by DK Sweets » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:32 am

I expect civil discourse in this thread this week.

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Post by Mothman » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:43 am

DK Sweets wrote:I expect civil discourse in this thread this week.

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You're a dreamer. I like that about you. :)
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:21 am

@NFLonCBS Tom Brady's 4-game suspension for "Deflategate" has been nullified by Judge Berman. (Via @AP)
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:28 am

@AlbertBreer The NFL is likely to appeal Berman's decision to the second court quickly. Immediate question becomes whether they seek a stay.
@smartfootball NFL really only has themselves to blame as judge was only reviewing process with heavy deference to arbitrator. NFL's "process" is broken.
@sgw94 this was a fight the NFL never should have had. This required a warning not a sting operation.
AdamKilgoreWP The NFL has now gotten its #### kicked in federal court three times in less than a calendar year.
@TomPelissero Judge Berman has vacated the arbitration decision and Tom Brady's suspension itself. Actually went further than Doty on Peterson ruling.
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:33 am

@RapSheet Don’t expect @NFL to seek an injunction to keep Tom Brady off the field as they appeal this ruling. Basically, he’s playing this season.
@TomPelissero Berman found that Commissioner's denial of Brady's motion to have Jeff Pash testify was fundamentally unfair.
@SeifertESPN Worth noting: NFL hand-picked Judge Berman to confirm its case. NFLPA wanted Judge Doty in Minnesota. Backfired.
@TomPelissero Berman also found that denial of NFLPA motion to produce Paul, Weiss investigative files (used in Wells Report) was fundamentally unfair.
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:56 am

@JasonLaCanfora Berman: "Brady also had no notice that his discipline would be the equivalent of the discipline imposed upon a player who used PEDS."
@JasonLaCanfora Not allowing Pash to be examined, failure to give Brady "adequate notice" of potential discipline, lack of access to files at core of ruling
@TomPelissero Berman found no NFL policy/precedent notifies players they may be disciplined for general awareness of others' conduct. Wells wording hurt. Because Brady won on inadequacy of notice and discovery, Berman didn't bother to rule on Goodell's partiality, factual conclusions, etc.
@SharpFootball Brady wins, because NFL:
A) didn't give Brady proper notice (p21)
B) denied Jeff Pash interview (p32)
C) denied Brady access to files (p36)
@JasonLaCanfora The court definitely has some issues with Wells's "generally aware" theory and what exactly that means
@JasonLaCanfora The fact the players not given copy of the game day operations manual - which outlines rules for inflation and penalties, also a key fact
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:58 am

‏@TomPelissero Today's ruling doesn't mean Tom Brady is innocent. It means a judge feels the NFL trampled his due process rights in upholding its verdict.
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by Mothman » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:14 am

@SeifertESPN Worth noting: NFL hand-picked Judge Berman to confirm its case. NFLPA wanted Judge Doty in Minnesota. Backfired.
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Thanks for all the tweets and the link to the ruling. I'll have to read that later.

I'm happy about the ruling. The NFL botched this from the start.
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:29 am

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@AdamSchefter Five times in today's 40-page ruling, Judge Berman put quotation marks around “independent” in reference to Ted Wells’ investigation.
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Re: Deflategate: Brady suspended, Pats lose draft picks & fi

Post by dead_poet » Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:34 am

@RapSheet According to Judge Berman’s ruling, no player may be penalized for being “generally aware.” That was the phrase Wells used in his report.
@LATimesfarmer NFL starts the season with an illegal procedure call.
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