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http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/ ... le-changes

1. Add third-party timeouts.
2. Expand replay.
3. Incentivize two-point plays.
4. Expand game-day rosters.
5. Allow video replay on sidelines.

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The plan of an extra-extra point is the stupidest thing ever, and if Goodell does that it will make football seem like a joke. I like the idea of moving it closer better. One other option is making a two point conversion like 8 on 8 or something to open more of the field up.

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I actually really like the "3 point" conversion idea. It would make games more exciting, in my opinion. It would definitely incentivize going for extra points, which to me is more exciting.

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I hope they keep it the same. I like it how it is.

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dead_poet wrote:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/164625/inside-slant-five-common-sense-nfl-rule-changes

1. Add third-party timeouts.
2. Expand replay.
3. Incentivize two-point plays.
4. Expand game-day rosters.
5. Allow video replay on sidelines.


So basically, increase the amount of commercials. 8)


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I'm not a fan of changing the PAT stuff.

I would like to see them fix the 'completed catch' rule thing.
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Also, I'd like to see the elimination of automatic 1st down penaties for offenses inside the opponents 10yd line. Not fair to get a whole new set of downs when a first down was an impossibility to begin with. Just half the distance and replay the down. Interference in the endzone? spot it at the 1 replay the down.


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dead_poet wrote:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/164625/inside-slant-five-common-sense-nfl-rule-changes

1. Add third-party timeouts.
2. Expand replay.
3. Incentivize two-point plays.
4. Expand game-day rosters.
5. Allow video replay on sidelines.


So basically, increase the amount of commercials. 8)


LOL! That's about it.


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If there is any rule to change it is the "process" rule for a catch. What is the process? why have such a bizarre and confusing rule? It would be very easy to say that I catch involves:

a) two points of the body in bounds
b)possession maintained for two more points of body to contact the ground (whether in bounds of our of bounds).

This would be clear and easy to understand and officiate.


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How about being able to replay penalties? It never made sense to me to not allow that. We can use all of this technology to make sure players do the right things, but we can't use the same technology to make sure that refs make the right calls? Seems weird.

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How about being able to replay penalties? It never made sense to me to not allow that. We can use all of this technology to make sure players do the right things, but we can't use the same technology to make sure that refs make the right calls? Seems weird.


The replay system as it stands, IS USED to make sure the refs made the right call. I get your point about adding penalties as a reviewable act as well.

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How about being able to replay penalties? It never made sense to me to not allow that. We can use all of this technology to make sure players do the right things, but we can't use the same technology to make sure that refs make the right calls? Seems weird.


I agree for things like offsides or False Start where it is obvious. I would not like reviews on Holding or Pass Interference penalties... way too objective.

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Cliff wrote:
How about being able to replay penalties? It never made sense to me to not allow that. We can use all of this technology to make sure players do the right things, but we can't use the same technology to make sure that refs make the right calls? Seems weird.


I agree for things like offsides or False Start where it is obvious. I would not like reviews on Holding or Pass Interference penalties... way too objective.
I "get" this reasoning to a certain point (I'm not trying to single you out at all; many members feel this way) but to me, if it's already a subjective call, I would rather it be a scrutinized in-game call with all information available. These types of calls have heavily influenced the outcome of games before, so I would like them to make the best call that they can.

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I say drop replay and simplify the rules so that a catch is a catch if it looked a catch, a fumble is a fumble if the ball came loose and the runner/passer wasn't down, etc. :evil: The more they try to refine, micro-manage and monitor this stuff the more it slows the game down and honestly, it seems like there are as many controversies and questionable calls as ever. There's no way to take the subjectivity out officiating.

... and get off my lawn!

Seriously, when it comes to replay I can take it or leave it but I think the rulebook as a whole is in great need of being simplified.


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How about being able to replay penalties? It never made sense to me to not allow that. We can use all of this technology to make sure players do the right things, but we can't use the same technology to make sure that refs make the right calls? Seems weird.


The replay system as it stands, IS USED to make sure the refs made the right call. I get your point about adding penalties as a reviewable act as well.


Yeah, I wrote that improperly. I meant that replay is only used to make confirm that a player did the right thing (Actually caught the ball, made it over the goal line, etc). While they don't use it to verify that a player did something wrong (false start, off sides, pass interference). These calls can have just as much impact on a game and are as easily reviewable.

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Cliff wrote:
How about being able to replay penalties? It never made sense to me to not allow that. We can use all of this technology to make sure players do the right things, but we can't use the same technology to make sure that refs make the right calls? Seems weird.


The replay system as it stands, IS USED to make sure the refs made the right call. I get your point about adding penalties as a reviewable act as well.


Yeah, I wrote that improperly. I meant that replay is only used to make confirm that a player did the right thing (Actually caught the ball, made it over the goal line, etc). While they don't use it to verify that a player did something wrong (false start, off sides, pass interference). These calls can have just as much impact on a game and are as easily reviewable.


I wouldn't mind seeing personal fouls being reviewable. A lot of times at game speed a hit will look a lot worse or malicious than it really was or vice versa. Blow to the head or leading with the crown of the helmet are examples where I think replay can better show exactly what happened.


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NFL owners have passed the rule proposal banning the use of ineligible receivers like the Patriots did in the AFC divisional playoffs.

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NFL owners have passed the rule proposal banning the use of ineligible receivers like the Patriots did in the AFC divisional playoffs.


BOO!

It sounds like we may get a change to the extra point rules during the next set of meetings in May:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/ ... story.html

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There was also a 30-40-minute discussion about the future of the extra point, and while nothing was decided, all signs point to the NFL enforcing major changes to the play, which has a 99 percent success rate over the last several years.

Competition committee chairman Rich McKay said his group will work with several head coaches over the next 30 days to devise a plan for improving the extra point, and the owners will vote on it at the next round of owners meetings in May in San Francisco.

“I think there’s a clear sentiment that there’s a movement to want change this year,” McKay said. “And the charge I think to us is to come back with a recommended proposal, do it in 30 days and give everyone a chance to vote on it.”

The discussion Wednesday included moving the line of scrimmage up to the 1½-yard line to encourage teams to go for the 2-point conversion, moving it back to the 15-yard line on kicks to make it a tougher conversion, eliminating the kick altogether and forcing teams to go for 2, and giving the defensive team 1 or 2 points if it forces a turnover and return the ball to the end zone.

“I think teams pretty much all said the same thing: It’s time to make this a football play,” McKay said. “And the way to make it a football play is No. 1, allow the defense to score.”


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BOO!


Boo? They were abusing a loophole to use the rule in a way it clearly wasn't intended to be used. It was as close to cheating you can get without actually cheating. Which the Patriots are great at. Refs should have shut it down at the time.


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I don't have a problem with them changing it, but if it was a part of the rules, the refs couldn't and SHOULDN'T have shut it down.

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BOO!


Boo? They were abusing a loophole to use the rule in a way it clearly wasn't intended to be used. It was as close to cheating you can get without actually cheating. Which the Patriots are great at. Refs should have shut it down at the time.


Yes, "Boo". I don't like to see the sport punishing unconventional, creative thinking that's done within the rules. The rules regarding substitution and formation were perfectly clear. If the Patriots successfully did something unconventional within them, that's to their credit. As DK said above, the refs shouldn't have shut it down because it was legal.

I have to wonder if this rule change would ever have made it to the competition committee if Ozzie Newsome wasn't one of it's members.

Boston sports media blogger Jerry Thornton put it best in the title to his post about it: NFL Considers Changing Rules so Patriots Can't Outhink Them

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What a fluff job. Surprised that clown isn't paid by the team. Even the worst homer in the Minnesota media can't touch that.

His team is the best, his coach is a genius, quit picking on us. They're all out to get us, and they only changed the rule to hold us down. :rofl:

Multiple coaches speak out against it, it's just jealousy! You don't think it has anything to do with the intent of the eligible receiver rule? You don't see anything wrong with an eligible tackle being covered by an ineligible fullback? That seems reasonable to you? And within the framework of the game and how it is intended to be played?

The league doesn't need more rules, it needs less people like Belichick doing his best to win while forcing them to add more rules. The game would be even more unwatchable then it's becoming if every little trick he could come up with was allowed to continue...and other teams to do the same.


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I was under the impression that the refs failed to enforce the rule as written during the playoffs.

Something about a player who declares as ineligible had to sit out a play before returning as eligible...or vice versa.

There is certainly no shortage of rules in todays game.


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What a fluff job. Surprised that clown isn't paid by the team. Even the worst homer in the Minnesota media can't touch that.

His team is the best, his coach is a genius, quit picking on us. They're all out to get us, and they only changed the rule to hold us down. :rofl:


It was the sentiment in the title I liked, not so much the post itself.

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Multiple coaches speak out against it, it's just jealousy! You don't think it has anything to do with the intent of the eligible receiver rule? You don't see anything wrong with an eligible tackle being covered by an ineligible fullback? That seems reasonable to you? And within the framework of the game and how it is intended to be played?


It's completely reasonable. The rules designate a number of players that have to be on the line of scrimmage and eligibility is determined by positioning. Any player can be eligible if they declare and if the formation is lined up correctly. That's basic football.

As long as the reporting is done correctly, I see no problem with it at all (by the way, Breeze, if I recall correctly the play you're talking about was one where the rule was broken and that should have been called a penalty. I seriously doubt it was a result of cheating though, more likely just simple confusion).

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The league doesn't need more rules, it needs less people like Belichick doing his best to win while forcing them to add more rules.


LOL! In other words, fewer resourceful coaches who are actually creative within the framework of the rules.

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The game would be even more unwatchable then it's becoming if every little trick he could come up with was allowed to continue...and other teams to do the same.


Got it. Trick plays should not be allowed. make it a rule!

Do you really think the tackle eligible play as you're accustomed to seeing it (or the flea flicker or any other trick play) looked much less strange and unorthodox when first used? The whole idea of such plays is to come up with something new, but legal, to confuse the defense. How is what Belichick did any different?


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the 2 point conversion should be eliminated and the extra point should be a 50 yard FG attempt.

Make kickers relevant!


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I think they should make it so whereever the ball is placed for the extra point, that is also where they kick the ball off to the other team on the subsequent play. If you want to put the ball on the 20 yd line and have a 30someting yard chip shot, then you can do that, but then you kick off from the 20 yard line. Like wise, if they want to put it out on the 40 and go for a LONG extra point, then they can kick off from the 40 Yard Line. Have to have some limits though, as to not be onside kicking into your opponents endzone after a missed 90 yard extra point attempt.


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I think they should make it so whereever the ball is placed for the extra point, that is also where they kick the ball off to the other team on the subsequent play. If you want to put the ball on the 20 yd line and have a 30someting yard chip shot, then you can do that, but then you kick off from the 20 yard line. Like wise, if they want to put it out on the 40 and go for a LONG extra point, then they can kick off from the 40 Yard Line. Have to have some limits though, as to not be onside kicking into your opponents endzone after a missed 90 yard extra point attempt.


That would be an exciting play with an extra level of strategy. I would get behind that idea.


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