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This sad on different levels. The poor victim and his family obviously :rip: , the fact that Hernandez's career maybe over :cry: , and the fact that the Patriots lost almost every offensive weapon on their team except Brady. :lol:


It's really hard to feel sorry for the Pats. But the stat that they might be missing their top FIVE receivers from a year ago is staggering. Pretty sure I'll be targeting Amendola in fantasy this year.

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It's really hard to feel sorry for the Pats. But the stat that they might be missing their top FIVE receivers from a year ago is staggering. Pretty sure I'll be targeting Amendola in fantasy this year.


Amendola's value has definitely shot way up but remember he's made of glass. Too risky to spend an early pick on. I think Ballard will end up being over-valued as well. He's not going to be able to step in and do what Hernandez did.


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Yeah, I don't think anyone will be claiming him on waivers.


...plenty of people looking for a tight end in prison. He's wanted. Don't you worry your pretty little head about that one. ;)

Chances are he'll convert to wide receiver.


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I don't see how someone could be this stupid. whatever happened too innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law ? sounds like rae carruth all over again. :confused:


Funny thing about people who commit murders: They aren't that smart. I've only watched a handful of episodes of Forensic Files in my day, but I'm smart enough to not even THINK about committing murder because they have ways to link that crap back to me. lol. They are SO good these days it's not even funny. With that said, he made it so easy. They thought this would be a ten minute deal: state the charges, discuss bail, and move on. Nope. They went on and on and ON about evidence. Details on who said what when, text messages, where he drove and when, who he was with, when/where the shooting happened, details on the gun, details on the shooting, (people reported gun shots)...guess who showed up at his house 2 minutes later getting out of his vehicle with the murder weapon in his hand? Guess when his home security system suddenly went funky? Right after he entered his house. Come on.

It's too, too, TOO easy. Like taking candy from a baby.


Not that I'm saying you should kill anyone but the solve rate isn't great, actually.

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/crime/ ... increasing

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The percentage of homicides that go unsolved in the United States has risen alarmingly even as the homicide rate has fallen to levels last seen in the 1960s.

Despite dramatic improvements in DNA analysis and forensic science, police fail to make an arrest in more than one-third of all homicides. National clearance rates for murder and manslaughter have fallen from about 90 percent in the 1960s to below 65 percent in recent years.

The majority of homicides now go unsolved at dozens of big-city police departments, according to a Scripps Howard News Service study of crime records provided by the the FBI.

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With last year's top 5 gone, it will be interesting to see if Michael Jenkins makes any sort of impact. I have a feeling he's going to have himself a decent year.


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With last year's top 5 gone, it will be interesting to see if Michael Jenkins makes any sort of impact. I have a feeling he's going to have himself a decent year.


It wouldn't surprise me if he bested last season's numbers (it's Tom freaking Brady for chrissakes) but they're going to be in a world of trouble if they're relying on him to make a significant impact. If I was them I'd check the draft price of Finley and Moeaki.

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Yeah, I don't think anyone will be claiming him on waivers.

claim him on waivers . if he is convicted then release him imo.


The Pats would be ECSTATIC if some team would be that stupid. He has guaranteed salary for this year and next that apparently the Pats will have to pay. A team picking him up on waivers would take over those guarantees. It is not risk free to pick him up.


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I don't see how someone could be this stupid. whatever happened too innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law ? sounds like rae carruth all over again. :confused:


Funny thing about people who commit murders: They aren't that smart. I've only watched a handful of episodes of Forensic Files in my day, but I'm smart enough to not even THINK about committing murder because they have ways to link that crap back to me. lol. They are SO good these days it's not even funny. With that said, he made it so easy. They thought this would be a ten minute deal: state the charges, discuss bail, and move on. Nope. They went on and on and ON about evidence. Details on who said what when, text messages, where he drove and when, who he was with, when/where the shooting happened, details on the gun, details on the shooting, (people reported gun shots)...guess who showed up at his house 2 minutes later getting out of his vehicle with the murder weapon in his hand? Guess when his home security system suddenly went funky? Right after he entered his house. Come on.

It's too, too, TOO easy. Like taking candy from a baby.


I wish it was that easy. So many killers are getting away with murders these days. Hernandez case what obvious. He practically gave himself away trying to destroy evidence and not cooperating with the cops. If he had nothing to do with the murder. He could have just presented his version of the story and hope the police find the real killer.

But Hernandez was dumb. Tried to get away with it but waited until the last minute to try to cover up anything.

Outside of Hernandez there alot of unsolved murders out here. Look at the George Zimmerman vs Trayvon Martin case. How long as Trayvon is dead, they're presented a crap load of evidence and still no verdict. And that's just one of many murders that have yet to be resolved.


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He could have just presented his version of the story and hope the police find the real killer.


Actually, it's in your best interest to 1) shut up and 2) lawyer up. I just saw this video not long ago. It paints a convincing reason why this is the smart thing to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

(warning: long, but interesting)

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He already opened his mouth posting pictures like this.

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I don't feel sorry for the Patriots at all

IMO they cheated and won those those super bowls because of it ..

I feel sorry for the family members on both sides the victims and the accused..

They are the ones that suffer the most in these cases

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Aaron Hernandez - TE - Free Agent

One AFC executive believes that Bill Belichick was the only coach willing to take a fourth-round flier on Aaron Hernandez back in 2010.

The executive says that Hernandez was a clear second-round talent at the time, but his off-field issues raised serious red flags. Many teams completely removed him from their draft board. Although Hernandez appeared to keep his nose clean through three seasons with the Patriots, we're now learning of other incidents prior to Wednesday's murder charge. A Connecticut man has filed a civil suit in Florida alleging Hernandez shot him in the face in February, he reportedly had a run-in with a Jets fan in May in which a gun was involved and a picture has surfaced of him standing in a mirror holding a gun. Hernandez also had failed drug tests while with the Gators and is rumored to have gang ties.
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moar:

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Former Patriots offensive lineman Matt Light told the Dayton Daily News that he "never believed in" Hernandez.

"I never talk about other guys, but I will say I have never embraced -- never believed in -- anything Aaron Hernandez stood for," Light told the newspaper.

Light, who helped the Patriots win three Super Bowls during his 11-year career, was a teammate of Hernandez's for two seasons.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/i ... ew-hearing


That picture is classic. What a waste of two lives.


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Aaron Hernandez - TE - Free Agent

Sources tell FOX 25 Boston that investigators consider Aaron Hernandez a possible suspect in a 2012 double murder that occurred in Boston.

On July 16 of last year, police responded to an intersection in downtown Boston. They found three men had been shot while stopped at a traffic light -- two of them fatally. The deceased were identified as Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu, and they had reportedly just left a bar. Witnesses said a gray or silver SUV with Rhode Island plates opened fire and then fled. The investigation is ongoing. Meanwhile, Hernandez was charged with the murder of Odin Lloyd on Wednesday and is facing a civil suit for shooting a man in the face in Florida in February.
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Another arrest:

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Connecticut authorities arrested another man in connection to the investigation that led to a former NFL player Aaron Hernandez being charged with murder.

The arrest comes about 24 hours after Hernandez was led out of his North Attleboro, Mass., home in handcuffs.

Carlos Ortiz, 27, was charged as a fugitive from justice and has waived extradition to Massachusetts, authorities say. Prison records show Ortiz is being held on $1.5 million bail at a Hartford jail.

Officials declined to release the allegations against Ortiz, who is scheduled to return to court on July 23.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/27/texts-video-cited-in-murder-charges-against-hernandez/


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At 1:12 a.m., the three left in Hernandez's rented silver Nissan Altima, McCauley said. Cell towers tracked their movements to a gas station off the highway. There, he said, Hernandez bought blue Bubblicious cotton candy gum.


This sounds like something a Juggalo might do.

How about those smart phones....is that Orwellian or what? I'm having trouble believing these guys were that stupid....I guess it all speaks for itself.


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Boston PD has located red SUV with RI plates it was looking for as identified in July 2012 homicide. Aaron Hernandez rented it.

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I love the "Innocent until proven guilty" crowd, lol. They can't even arrest anyone nowadays unless they have almost foolproof evidence.


Wow can we delete this thread already?

Innocent until proven guilty! We shouldn't even be discussing this! :lol:


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Some insight on Hernandez's motive for wanting Lloyd dead:

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Citing law enforcement officials, Boston.com reported Thursday afternoon that investigators now believe Lloyd, who was shot to death near Hernandez's suburban Boston home last week, might have had information on the shooting death of two men at an intersection in Boston's South End after an altercation at a nearby club early in the morning of July 15, 2012. The fight involved two men and a group that included Hernandez, the report said.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... odin-lloyd


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Some insight on Hernandez's motive for wanting Lloyd dead:

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Citing law enforcement officials, Boston.com reported Thursday afternoon that investigators now believe Lloyd, who was shot to death near Hernandez's suburban Boston home last week, might have had information on the shooting death of two men at an intersection in Boston's South End after an altercation at a nearby club early in the morning of July 15, 2012. The fight involved two men and a group that included Hernandez, the report said.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... odin-lloyd


More murders. Just keeps getting crazier and crazier.

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serial killers are smart. :nono:


This one isn't.

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Outside of Hernandez there alot of unsolved murders out here. Look at the George Zimmerman vs Trayvon Martin case. How long as Trayvon is dead, they're presented a crap load of evidence and still no verdict. And that's just one of many murders that have yet to be resolved.


No verdict because they're finally going to court. Unsolved murders are definitely an issue, as Cliff previously pointed out. But I still believe someone is pretty naive--or maybe a little arrogant--to think they're never going to get caught. I stand by that. I don't care how many go unsolved. It's still foolish for someone to think they can do this kind of thing and just live their merry little life like it's all going to be okay. It'll eventually catch up to a person, in one way or another. I don't like the lengthy process either, but both teams have to have time to build their cases. When first degree murder is the charge--and possibly death penalty in some states--they take even LONGER. I just watched the Jodi Arias case for MONTHS. Know how long she was sitting in jail waiting for her trial? Five years. She stabbed her ex 28 times, slit his throat, and shot him...and it STILL took them five freakin years to bring that to trial. It's pathetic. Look at the LOADS of evidence they have against Hernandez. They already said he won't go to trial until at least 2014. Might be even way longer now that they are finding him linked to other things. With that said, at least he's in jail where he belongs so he can't hurt anyone else. Still. These things DO take way too long, and I have nothing to do with that. lol. I also have nothing to do with the fact that so many go unsolved. All I was saying is: Hernandez is really dumb, and I'm not dumb enough to make the same mistakes. :P Little ol' Melanie would get caught, just as Hernandez did. I don't want to be introduced to Big Broom Betty anytime soon.

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I love the "Innocent until proven guilty" crowd, lol. They can't even arrest anyone nowadays unless they have almost foolproof evidence.


Wow can we delete this thread already?

Innocent until proven guilty! We shouldn't even be discussing this! :lol:



Really Demi? three pages of posts here and this is the one you choose to belittle? :roll:

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Some insight on Hernandez's motive for wanting Lloyd dead:

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Citing law enforcement officials, Boston.com reported Thursday afternoon that investigators now believe Lloyd, who was shot to death near Hernandez's suburban Boston home last week, might have had information on the shooting death of two men at an intersection in Boston's South End after an altercation at a nearby club early in the morning of July 15, 2012. The fight involved two men and a group that included Hernandez, the report said.


http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... odin-lloyd


Now, I just think they're trying to make sure he stays in jail.


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This sad on different levels. The poor victim and his family obviously :rip: , the fact that Hernandez's career maybe over :cry: , and the fact that the Patriots lost almost every offensive weapon on their team except Brady. :lol:


It's really hard to feel sorry for the Pats. But the stat that they might be missing their top FIVE receivers from a year ago is staggering. Pretty sure I'll be targeting Amendola in fantasy this year.


Five? I'm only coming up with four. Either way, if Brady and Belichick are able to make the playoffs and all that jazz--as usual...they really are the real deal. With that said, I hope they're awful. Go Bills! :lol:

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Five? I'm only coming up with four. :lol:

Lloyd, Welker, Branch, Hernandez, Gronk I believe


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Five? I'm only coming up with four. :lol:

Lloyd, Welker, Branch, Hernandez, Gronk I believe


Sorry, should have said top five pass catcher as #5 was Woodhead.


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Five? I'm only coming up with four. :lol:

Lloyd, Welker, Branch, Hernandez, Gronk I believe


Sorry, should have said top five pass catcher as #5 was Woodhead.


Aha. Woodhead was the one I was missing. I was kind of thinking it was a RB, but I didn't realize Woodhead went elsewhere.

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punch "hernandezing" into google images. What whacky times we live in.

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The Pats are really wanting to remove him like a very bad cancer - they are offering a 48hr trade-in next weekend on July 6-7 for anyone who bought a Hernandez jersey from either the official team shop or online store for any other jersey of comparable value.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... y-exchange

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