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Goddell should have added to the suspensions for wasting his time with the appeals.


goodell is judge, jury,executioner, and appellate judge. :P


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That audio is an appeals killer, public relations deathblow and possible prison sentence.

He repeatedly called for Saints to injure not just specific players but also to cause specific injuries, such as concussions and ligament tears.

It's over, Johnny.

God, and to think anybody with the Cardinals, Vikings or Packers who said that the Saints were dirty and coached to injure was called a "sore loser" and a "conspiracy crank."


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That audio is an appeals killer, public relations deathblow and possible prison sentence.

He repeatedly called for Saints to injure not just specific players but also to cause specific injuries, such as concussions and ligament tears.

It's over, Johnny.

God, and to think anybody with the Cardinals, Vikings or Packers who said that the Saints were dirty and coached to injure was called a "sore loser" and a "conspiracy crank."


don't forget "sour grapes"... :lol:

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i dont see how a nfl player can be more motivated then they already are. but talking about blowing out knees and concussions is inexcusable.


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On a related note....

Saints Offense - TM - Saints

ESPN's Outside the Lines reports that Saints GM Mickey Loomis used an electronic device in the Superdome to eavesdrop on opposing coaching staffs during the 2002 through 2004 seasons.

The "eavesdropping" violates the NFL constitution, as well as federal and Louisiana state laws. Loomis, who is suspended eight games this year for covering up the Saints' bounty scandal, "secretly listened in" to opponents' conversations during the 2002-2004 seasons. "This is 1,000 percent false," Loomis told ESPN on Monday. "This is 1,000 percent inaccurate." The NFL just became aware of the allegations. Based on five- and six-year federal and state statutes of limitations, Loomis is not expected to face charges outside of potential civil litigation. The NFL can enforce more discipline, though.
Source: ESPN.com

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On a related note....

Saints Offense - TM - Saints

ESPN's Outside the Lines reports that Saints GM Mickey Loomis used an electronic device in the Superdome to eavesdrop on opposing coaching staffs during the 2002 through 2004 seasons.

The "eavesdropping" violates the NFL constitution, as well as federal and Louisiana state laws. Loomis, who is suspended eight games this year for covering up the Saints' bounty scandal, "secretly listened in" to opponents' conversations during the 2002-2004 seasons. "This is 1,000 percent false," Loomis told ESPN on Monday. "This is 1,000 percent inaccurate." The NFL just became aware of the allegations. Based on five- and six-year federal and state statutes of limitations, Loomis is not expected to face charges outside of potential civil litigation. The NFL can enforce more discipline, though.
Source: ESPN.com


You know how I can tell when someone is lying? When they use a percentage above 100 to demonstrate their level of truthiness.

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Full story: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/ ... home-games

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Steve Smith revealed Tuesday that one Saints defender as well as former defensive boss Gregg Williams admitted to dirty tactics and trying to injure opposing players.

"I was going out of bounds, and the guy went for my ankle. I said, 'Hey, man, cut that out.' He's like, 'Well, we get fined if we don't go after your legs when you go out of bounds.'" said Smith. "And actually this past year, this last game when we played them, I had a little conversation with Gregg Williams. ... He took responsibility, he was saying it wasn't right, but that's who he was." From what has been discovered of Williams' philosophy, we have no reason to question the veracity of Smith's accusations. Apr 24 - 6:50 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... line_stack

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Spygate 2012 New Orleans saints ?!??!

http://www.nesn.com/2012/04/saints-bugg ... ctive.html

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The NFL should make the team change it's name...Saints just doesn't fit with how dirty they are.

here are some suggested names: Scum, Trash, Low Lifes, Scoundrels, Cons, Bastards

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What about the Taints?


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Taints..love it!

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:hang: :rip:


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Includes #Packers Anthony Hargrove. EIGHT games. RT: @NFL345: Four Players Suspended for Participation in Saints’ Bounty Program

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NFL suspended Saints MLB Jonathan Vilma for the entire season for his role in the bounty scandal.

The NFL's investigation concluded that Vilma, as captain of the defense, aided Greg Williams in establishing and funding the bounty program. Vilma's suspension will kick in immediately while Packers DE Anthony Hargrove (8 games), Saints DE Will Smith (4 games), and Browns LB Scott Fujita (3 games) are allowed to participate in OTAs and preseason action.

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sure hope more suspensions are coming for those crappy saints


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I was hoping for a lot more suspensions .. how do you go from 27 to only getting slapped

the other 23 ? so its okay for them to hurt people ??

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Players, NFL disagree on context of bounty email

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Ornstein's email is just another example of the speciousness of the quote-unquote evidence that Commissioner (Roger) Goodell claims to have to support his erroneous accusations against Jonathan and the other players," lawyer Peter Ginsberg said. "As more of the evidence is revealed in the media, it is becoming more and more apparent how irresponsible the NFL's actions have been



More info in the USA Today Article

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Let's bring on the lawyer talk and get these animals off!

Hope the NFL doesn't budge an inch. It was clear at the time, and it's clear now exactly what they were doing. The idea the NFL needs what, phone recordings of specific bounties being placed? what a joke.


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Let's bring on the lawyer talk and get these animals off!

Hope the NFL doesn't budge an inch. It was clear at the time, and it's clear now exactly what they were doing. The idea the NFL needs what, phone recordings of specific bounties being placed? what a joke.


I think the mere fact they are getting e-mails from a prison inmate says alot. I just find it amazing that lawyers can assert things like this with a straight face. Later in the article it says:

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The NFL has suspended Williams indefinitely. Williams, now with St. Louis, has apologized publicly for running a pay-for-performance program that he knew was wrong.


(Added emphasis was mine) - I suppose the lawyers will assert Williams is lying/was intimidated by the NFL or some other such nonsense....

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i dont like sheriff goodell. but the saints had this coming imo.
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I just love all the comments on ESPN and Fox articles regarding how horrible Goodell is...He is a mouth piece for the owners...Does anyone really think he is doing this without the owners approval...


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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... efamation/

Vilma suing goodell! WOW!

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/17/vilma-sues-goodell-for-defamation/

Vilma suing goodell! WOW!


I could see this backfiring. The NFL isn't a court of law, so it's not required to present all evidence it has. It's quite possible that the league has a mountain of evidence against Vilma that would come out in a court case.


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That's what I was thinking. If they do have the evidence and reveal it publicly, Vilma is going to look worse than he already does. As seen with some other issues, the constant lying can get people more pissed off then the actual issue.


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i'm sure goodell has the evidence. he's not a stupid guy. i'm sure he has all his ducks in a row. :smilevike:


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i'm sure goodell has the evidence. he's not a stupid guy. i'm sure he has all his ducks in a row. :smilevike:


I would hope this is the case, but there is a huge lack of due process in all of this (yes I get it doesn't apply here). Goodel is the investigator, judge and jury here. Heaven forbid he made a mistake. I'm going to assume he wouldnt make this up (as it would be incredibly stupid to do), but I have a tougher time believing that he made no mistakes on this. The problem is that the evidence needs to come out, and I suspect they are hiding this because of "integrity of the game issues."

It's the same reason (I'm guessing) as to why all of the spygate evidence was destroyed... The fans would be upset knowing the Patriots cheated during the superbowl, especially in the games that were won by close margins.


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Report: Saints kept bounty ledger

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The NFL has a copy of a ledger detailing weekly earnings for players in the New Orleans Saints bounty scandal, according to a Yahoo! Sports report.

Yahoo! Sports, citing two sources with knowledge of the NFL's evidence, reports the ledger showed payments of $1,000 for cart-offs, $400 for whacks -- also known as hard hits -- and $100 deductions for mental errors. According to the report, Saints players were told on a week-by-week basis of their performance.



Just when you think these morons couldn't get any stupider. The entire team shuold be banned for the upcoming season. I hope another hurricane destroys the Superdome and the entire city.

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I hope another hurricane destroys the Superdome and the entire city.


Seems harsh.

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PurpleMustReign wrote:
I hope another hurricane destroys the Superdome and the entire city.


Seems harsh.



Well, just the Saints and their fans :)

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