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Cliff
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 Re: It's official...it's Tebow Time
Eli wrote: Cliff wrote: I would say Jeremy Lin's story is more comparable with Jared Allen or John Randle. Offhand, I can't think of an NFL story that is comparable, but if there were one, it would have to be by someone at QB. There's no other position in the NFL from which it could be done. Someone who came off the bench in the middle of the season, from being on the verge of being cut or placed on the practice squad, on a losing, disorganized, underperforming team, to become an instant superstar, to energize and completely turn the team's season around. I just meant the story of essentially a "nobody" who came in undrafted and ended up doing well. I don't think anybody in the NFL is the exact same story either ... but it definitely doesn't fit someone who won the Heisman and was drafted in the first round. Their stories aren't even remotely similar.
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glg
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Valhalla wrote: What do you say? SportsCenter Pardon the Interruption has been comparing "Linsanity" to "Tebowmania" Just to clarify, Tony and Mike on PTI were asked if the comparisons others have made between Lin and Tebow were warranted. Both said no, for all the reasons others here have listed.
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Valhalla
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Quote: Just to clarify, Tony and Mike on PTI were asked if the comparisons others have made between Lin and Tebow were warranted. Both said no, for all the reasons others here have listed. Then to clarify further, no one even mentioned Tony and Mike and furthermore, did not PTI have a big graphic with the words "LinsanitY" and "Tebowmania" up on the screen during this session? Yes or no. It may be at youtube. This is the original post: Quote: What do you say? SportsCenter Pardon the Interruption has been comparing "Linsanity" to "Tebowmania". If you are saying having a show segment where Tebow and Lin, Tebowmania and Linsanity are discussed but that does not mean a comparison, then you are welcome to such a judgment. http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/l ... 72012.htmlYes, there are a number of articles like this. One would have to dissect the words but as far as both Tebowmania and Linsanity being discussed on the show together, yes they were. Did they both give unqualified 'nos'? It may have been PTI as well, saying Tebow may be the great college football player ever, I think so. Glad we are all in agreement with Tony and Mike. Perhaps there is a transcript of the show. Great stories for the sport, people are looking at the NBA, if this was just about Kobe or Lebron or Dirk, Ricky Rubio is a great story as well but people might not be paying as much attention.
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glg
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Valhalla wrote: Quote: Just to clarify, Tony and Mike on PTI were asked if the comparisons others have made between Lin and Tebow were warranted. Both said no, for all the reasons others here have listed. Then to clarify further, no one even mentioned Tony and Mike and furthermore, did not PTI have a big graphic with the words "LinsanitY" and "Tebowmania" up on the screen during this session? Yes or no. It may be at youtube. This is the original post: Quote: What do you say? SportsCenter Pardon the Interruption has been comparing "Linsanity" to "Tebowmania". If you are saying having a show segment where Tebow and Lin, Tebowmania and Linsanity are discussed but that does not mean a comparison, then you are welcome to such a judgment.  What are you on about? Yes, they compared the two and came to the conclusion that they were very different.
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Valhalla
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glg wrote: Valhalla wrote: Quote: Just to clarify, Tony and Mike on PTI were asked if the comparisons others have made between Lin and Tebow were warranted. Both said no, for all the reasons others here have listed. Then to clarify further, no one even mentioned Tony and Mike and furthermore, did not PTI have a big graphic with the words "LinsanitY" and "Tebowmania" up on the screen during this session? Yes or no. It may be at youtube. This is the original post: Quote: What do you say? SportsCenter Pardon the Interruption has been comparing "Linsanity" to "Tebowmania". If you are saying having a show segment where Tebow and Lin, Tebowmania and Linsanity are discussed but that does not mean a comparison, then you are welcome to such a judgment.  What are you on about? Yes, they compared the two and came to the conclusion that they were very different.  What are on about? Saying a show comparing Tebowmania and Linsanity don't compare is indeed confusing, then following it up saying they said they were different for the same reasons people here say so sounds even less convincing. You did not elaborate on anything in particular they said, I've said at least one thing, I watched it, I don't know if it boils down to the simple way it has been said here. But I am sure Mike or at least ESPN in that hour, did say "Tim Tebow is possibly the greatest college football player of all time" so there is something we all might agree on.
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dead_poet
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GQ: Brady Quinn Debunks Year Of The Tebow: 'We've Had A Lot Of ... Luck'http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-t ... d-lot-luck
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dead_poet
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This could get ugly...uglier.
Tim Tebow - QB - Broncos
Coach John Fox confirmed that the Broncos expect Tim Tebow to evolve into a traditional-style NFL quarterback as opposed to continuing the run option offense.
"He is going to be a great quarterback in this league," Fox said. "How long it takes (and) when? I can't tell you. But he's going to be that guy in a regular NFL offense." Fox won't "totally abandon" elements of the option that work in Tebow's favor, but the Broncos want him to "make those strides" toward improving in the pocket, going through progressions, and reading defenses. Source: FOXSports.com
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dead_poet
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Peyton Manning - QB - Colts
One league source told Profootballtalk.com that "there's a belief" the Broncos are willing to make a "significant push" for free agent Peyton Manning.
The Broncos did reach out to Manning quickly on Wednesday, and the organization isn't the least bit committed to Tim Tebow no matter what club brass says publicly. It's worth noting that Tebow is represented by the powerful sports agency CAA, which also reps Manning. There would be an obvious conflict in interest because Tebow brings in so much money through endorsements. That wouldn't be the case if he was no longer a starter, or no longer a Bronco. Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
--- This coming on the heels of another report saying that the team would look hard at Cassel, Sanchez or Kolb if the KC, NYJ or Arizona acquires Manning. Which is also coming off a report saying that the "Tebow Offense" may not survive to this season and that he may have to try and become, you know, an actual quarterback as they mold him into a traditional offense (good luck with that).
Yeah, pretty sure they don't think he's the answer.
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dead_poet
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Tim Tebow - QB - Broncos
Mike Klis of the Denver Post writes that the Broncos will sign a free agent who can "legitimately challenge" Tim Tebow for the starting job.
Klis doesn't believe the Broncos will ultimately have a chance at Peyton Manning. But it's clear the Broncos also don't want to sign a true "backup" type like Shaun Hill or Josh McCown. They want a true "1A" option like Chad Henne or Jason Campbell that can apply pressure to Tebow and possibly start if Tebow struggles. In short: The drama isn't ending anytime soon. Source: Denver Post
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Demi
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Quote: They want a true "1A" option like Chad Henne or Jason Campbell that can apply pressure to Tebow and possibly start if Tebow struggles. Really? They'd rather die with a bum like Henne or Campbell, than Tebow? Gee that sounds like a great idea. A loss is a loss...except when a ticket selling rock star with a massive following is getting those losses instead of the most blah run of the mill QBs imaginable. Say what you want about Tebow, but he gets people to watch, and keeps them interested. Henne and Campbell. 
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HardcoreVikesFan
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Demi wrote: Quote: They want a true "1A" option like Chad Henne or Jason Campbell that can apply pressure to Tebow and possibly start if Tebow struggles. Really? They'd rather die with a bum like Henne or Campbell, than Tebow? Gee that sounds like a great idea. A loss is a loss...except when a ticket selling rock star with a massive following is getting those losses instead of the most blah run of the mill QBs imaginable. Say what you want about Tebow, but he gets people to watch, and keeps them interested. Henne and Campbell.  I may be of the minority, but I actually like both of those guys. I feel that both of those guys can be effective players in the NFL if they put in the right situation.
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Cliff
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Demi wrote: Quote: They want a true "1A" option like Chad Henne or Jason Campbell that can apply pressure to Tebow and possibly start if Tebow struggles. Really? They'd rather die with a bum like Henne or Campbell, than Tebow? Gee that sounds like a great idea. A loss is a loss...except when a ticket selling rock star with a massive following is getting those losses instead of the most blah run of the mill QBs imaginable. Say what you want about Tebow, but he gets people to watch, and keeps them interested. Henne and Campbell.  From a business point of view Tebow is a gold mine. Even if he's horrible next season he'll be followed by a lot of people. I'm sure they'll find a way to get him on the field.
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hibbingviking
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Cliff wrote: Demi wrote: Quote: They want a true "1A" option like Chad Henne or Jason Campbell that can apply pressure to Tebow and possibly start if Tebow struggles. Really? They'd rather die with a bum like Henne or Campbell, than Tebow? Gee that sounds like a great idea. A loss is a loss...except when a ticket selling rock star with a massive following is getting those losses instead of the most blah run of the mill QBs imaginable. Say what you want about Tebow, but he gets people to watch, and keeps them interested. Henne and Campbell.  From a business point of view Tebow is a gold mine. Even if he's horrible next season he'll be followed by a lot of people. I'm sure they'll find a way to get him on the field. tebow wasnt horrible last season or the season before. his deep passing is pretty good. he needs time and a qb guru to work on his short and intermediate range passing.
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Cliff
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hibbingviking wrote: tebow wasnt horrible last season or the season before. his deep passing is pretty good. he needs time and a qb guru to work on his short and intermediate range passing. Maybe so. I'm not going to debate his talent because it's not worth the hassle ... I know we view him differently. Regardless, even if he is horrible next season (and I'm not saying he will be or he won't be) he'll get attention. Though I imagine if he's too bad people will start hopping off the Tebow train.
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hibbingviking
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Cliff wrote: hibbingviking wrote: tebow wasnt horrible last season or the season before. his deep passing is pretty good. he needs time and a qb guru to work on his short and intermediate range passing. Maybe so. I'm not going to debate his talent because it's not worth the hassle ... I know we view him differently. Regardless, even if he is horrible next season (and I'm not saying he will be or he won't be) he'll get attention. Though I imagine if he's too bad people will start hopping off the Tebow train. he will sell tickets. puzzles me. tebow is unorthodox but he did what he was asked to do last season and win games. no doubt he needs time to work on his passing. but alot of people thinks he is a bust and never will be any good even after winning games at the nfl level with a new coach, system, new gm, and no training camp. 
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NextQuestion
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Elway wants a pure pocket QB. Manning is that.
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hibbingviking
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NextQuestion wrote: Elway wants a pure pocket QB. Manning is that. i agree. elway is out of the griffen III and andrew luck sweepstakes. he may make a hard run at peyton manning.
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glg
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Cliff wrote: From a business point of view Tebow is a gold mine. Even if he's horrible next season he'll be followed by a lot of people. I'm sure they'll find a way to get him on the field. If he goes out and puts up a bad season, will that remain the case?
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Tebow sucks. Bring Manning in to Denver and there's your popularity contest winner right there.
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hibbingviking
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NextQuestion wrote: Tebow sucks. Bring Manning in to Denver and there's your popularity contest winner right there. how can a qb at the nfl level win games and suck ? takes more than an average defense and average running back to win at the nfl level. especially nowadays.
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bpviking
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hibbingviking wrote: NextQuestion wrote: Tebow sucks. Bring Manning in to Denver and there's your popularity contest winner right there. how can a qb at the nfl level win games and suck ? takes more than an average defense and average running back to win at the nfl level. especially nowadays. Enough already 
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hibbingviking
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bpviking wrote: :deadhorse: hibbingviking wrote: NextQuestion wrote: Tebow sucks. Bring Manning in to Denver and there's your popularity contest winner right there. how can a qb at the nfl level win games and suck ? takes more than an average defense and average running back to win at the nfl level. especially nowadays. Enough already  i can name 5 starting qb's that tebow is better than right now. i love watching tebow haters make fools of themselves. 
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PurpleKoolaid
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bpviking wrote: :deadhorse: hibbingviking wrote: NextQuestion wrote: Tebow sucks. Bring Manning in to Denver and there's your popularity contest winner right there. how can a qb at the nfl level win games and suck ? takes more than an average defense and average running back to win at the nfl level. especially nowadays. Enough already  Yeah lets not post more about Tebow in a Tebow post, lets talk about Cook getting off scott free, was never guilty, didnt touch anyone. Much more interesting. I mean jurries cant be wrong.
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J. Kapp 11
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hibbingviking wrote: i can name 5 starting qb's that tebow is better than right now. i love watching tebow haters make fools of themselves.  A whole five? You're right. Fools.
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Boon
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NextQuestion wrote: Tebow sucks. Bring Manning in to Denver and there's your popularity contest winner right there. Until manning gets sacked, hurt, and there went your playoffs. I don't wish bad on anyone (except sean hannity) but i'd laugh if manning wasn't able to play at some point this season and denver failed to make the playoffs.
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HardcoreVikesFan
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Cannot wait for this BS that arises as the Broncos try to trade Teblow.
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Valhalla
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Manning's won the MVP 4 times... there are very few Quarterbacks who have those same kinds of accolades, only the greatest all time such as Marino, Montana, Favre and others of that caliber.
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Valhalla
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Per Tebow; the stories already out, he's being linked to :
Tampa Bay, Jags, yeah, Pats even, number of stories out there including a number of stories saying teams should not try to get him, Browns, others.
Saw a story on the Cowboys out there, I don't think that would work...
He'll sell a lot of jerseys at least at first, he'd probably be a good fit for Jags, Bucs .... we'll see.
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hibbingviking
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hate or love tebow alot of people watch him. he's been in the league for two years under two different systems. he's a running qb that wins games. still has alot to learn.  i love these people with their crystal balls who can tell the future and say he will never be a good passer.
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dead_poet
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Tim Tebow - QB - Jets
Jets acquired QB Tim Tebow and a 2012 seventh-round pick from the Broncos in exchange for fourth- and sixth-round picks in 2012.
Per ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Rams "jumped in" to the Tebow trade talks on Wednesday morning, and they along with the Jaguars and Jets were in the thick of conversations. The Packers ultimately determined Tebow wasn't worth a mid-round pick. In New York, Tebow will create some urgency for Mark Sanchez, although he's ultimately expected to be a No. 3 quarterback and package-type player. If Sanchez starts the 2012 season slow, however, we'd hardly be shocked if Tebow's quarterbacking role grew. He fits perfectly with Rex Ryan and Tony Sparano's run-heavy mindset. Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter
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