Spygate 2012 New Orleans saints ?!??!

http://www.nesn.com/2012/04/saints-bugg ... ctive.html

The NFL should make the team change it's name...Saints just doesn't fit with how dirty they are.

here are some suggested names: Scum, Trash, Low Lifes, Scoundrels, Cons, Bastards

What about the Taints?

Taints..love it!

NFL suspended Saints MLB Jonathan Vilma for the entire season for his role in the bounty scandal.

The NFL's investigation concluded that Vilma, as captain of the defense, aided Greg Williams in establishing and funding the bounty program. Vilma's suspension will kick in immediately while Packers DE Anthony Hargrove (8 games), Saints DE Will Smith (4 games), and Browns LB Scott Fujita (3 games) are allowed to participate in OTAs and preseason action.

sure hope more suspensions are coming for those crappy saints

I was hoping for a lot more suspensions .. how do you go from 27 to only getting slapped

the other 23 ? so its okay for them to hurt people ??

Players, NFL disagree on context of bounty email




More info in the USA Today Article

Let's bring on the lawyer talk and get these animals off!

Hope the NFL doesn't budge an inch. It was clear at the time, and it's clear now exactly what they were doing. The idea the NFL needs what, phone recordings of specific bounties being placed? what a joke.

I think the mere fact they are getting e-mails from a prison inmate says alot. I just find it amazing that lawyers can assert things like this with a straight face. Later in the article it says:



(Added emphasis was mine) - I suppose the lawyers will assert Williams is lying/was intimidated by the NFL or some other such nonsense....

i dont like sheriff goodell. but the saints had this coming imo.

I just love all the comments on ESPN and Fox articles regarding how horrible Goodell is...He is a mouth piece for the owners...Does anyone really think he is doing this without the owners approval...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... efamation/

Vilma suing goodell! WOW!

I could see this backfiring. The NFL isn't a court of law, so it's not required to present all evidence it has. It's quite possible that the league has a mountain of evidence against Vilma that would come out in a court case.

That's what I was thinking. If they do have the evidence and reveal it publicly, Vilma is going to look worse than he already does. As seen with some other issues, the constant lying can get people more pissed off then the actual issue.

i'm sure goodell has the evidence. he's not a stupid guy. i'm sure he has all his ducks in a row.

I would hope this is the case, but there is a huge lack of due process in all of this (yes I get it doesn't apply here). Goodel is the investigator, judge and jury here. Heaven forbid he made a mistake. I'm going to assume he wouldnt make this up (as it would be incredibly stupid to do), but I have a tougher time believing that he made no mistakes on this. The problem is that the evidence needs to come out, and I suspect they are hiding this because of "integrity of the game issues."

It's the same reason (I'm guessing) as to why all of the spygate evidence was destroyed... The fans would be upset knowing the Patriots cheated during the superbowl, especially in the games that were won by close margins.

Report: Saints kept bounty ledger




Just when you think these morons couldn't get any stupider. The entire team shuold be banned for the upcoming season. I hope another hurricane destroys the Superdome and the entire city.

Seems harsh.

Well, just the Saints and their fans

Hard to not be a little bitter about this ...

Brett Favre 'bounty' pledges exists in league's evidence



Link Here.

They better not. That would really upset me. That will show that it is ok to cheat.

The reason they might get an injunction is that the penalty is very time sensitive (ie football careers are short), so if the NFL loses the case, Vilma will have been irreparably harmed by the suspension. Since a trial won't possible happen before the season starts, if the judge thinks there is merit to Vilma's claim, she has to issue an injunction. This is the same reason that Kevin and Pat Williams were allowed to play for a couple years while the Starcaps thing worked its way through the courts.

Note that the NFL did not respond with any evidence against Vilma and instead used a jurisdictional argument that Vilma doesn't have the right to sue under the CBA.

As others have said, if Vilma wins this round and gets an injunction and then a trial, he sure as hell better be right, because if the league's evidence shows he did contribute the money, he has now lied under oath, which is way more serious than any bounty.

Jonathan Vilma - LB - Saints
The NFL has offered to reduce Saints MLB Jonathan Vilma's year-long suspension to eight games as part of a settlement.

The league, NFLPA, and attorneys for the four suspended Bounty Scandal players have held ongoing settlement talks. To get his suspension cut in half, Vilma would have to drop his defamation of character civil suit against commissioner Roger Goodell. With another court appearance scheduled for Friday, there could be a resolution as soon as this week. Vilma's possible reduction could lead to shorter suspensions for Saints DE Will Smith (four games), Packers DT Anthony Hargrove (eight games), and Browns LB Scott Fujita (three games). Vilma has undergone three left knee surgeries since November, so there's still no guarantee he'd be available to play in 2012.

this sucks. He is lucky he isn't getting a lifetime ban.

In a stunning development, players suspended for their roles in the Saints' 2009-2011 Bounty Scandal have had their bans overturned on appeal.

Perhaps the most notable suspension lifted is RE Will Smith's. The Saints' best pass rusher will be able to start Sunday against the Redskins. Browns SLB Scott Fujita and Saints MLB Jonathan Vilma, among others, are now eligible to play football. Vilma has been away from the Saints rehabbing from knee surgeries, so it's unclear how much time he'll need to get back into the swing of things. Smith's return will make life quite a bit more difficult on Redskins rookie Robert Griffin III. Coaches Sean Payton and Joe Vitt, and GM Mickey Loomis' suspensions will remain intact.
Related: Scott Fujita, Jonathan Vilma
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Sep 7 - 3:35 PM

Sucks. I hope every visiting team chants bounty gate the entire time.