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LB from TCU.

We have to get him - round 2 possibly?

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That's a great tape right there ^ lots of tackles at or behind the line of scrimmage.



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Dawson will be the best pro LB in this class.

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I like Dawson a lot. I live in Fort Worth and watch a lot of TCU's games. Dawson's a very smart LB. Coach Patterson reminds me of Zimmer: a genuine teacher and a defensive specialist. His players are typically less physically gifted than those recruits that go to UT (Austin), but they come out of their college experience better coached and better prepared IMO. I'd love it if Dawson made it to us in Rd. 2.


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I like Dawson a lot. I live in Fort Worth and watch a lot of TCU's games. Dawson's a very smart LB. Coach Patterson reminds me of Zimmer: a genuine teacher and a defensive specialist. His players are typically less physically gifted than those recruits that go to UT (Austin), but they come out of their college experience better coached and better prepared IMO. I'd love it if Dawson made it to us in Rd. 2.


Do you think he could play MIKE? I know he's not the biggest kid, and playing inside in a 4-2-5, it's hard to project, but his skill set seems like it would transfer well to playing the middle in Zimmer's defense. I think he's better than McKinney and Perryman. I want us to draft him in the worst way. I just know he's going to be so good. Some of the best instincts you can ask for from a LB coming out of school.


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Texas Vike wrote:
I like Dawson a lot. I live in Fort Worth and watch a lot of TCU's games. Dawson's a very smart LB. Coach Patterson reminds me of Zimmer: a genuine teacher and a defensive specialist. His players are typically less physically gifted than those recruits that go to UT (Austin), but they come out of their college experience better coached and better prepared IMO. I'd love it if Dawson made it to us in Rd. 2.


Do you think he could play MIKE? I know he's not the biggest kid, and playing inside in a 4-2-5, it's hard to project, but his skill set seems like it would transfer well to playing the middle in Zimmer's defense. I think he's better than McKinney and Perryman. I want us to draft him in the worst way. I just know he's going to be so good. Some of the best instincts you can ask for from a LB coming out of school.


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Absolutely. He's great at shedding blocks and getting to the ball. I'm hoping his lack of ideal size helps him slide a bit to our 2nd round spot. He's pretty different from some of our recent 1st round picks (Barr and Flash) in that he's not some freakish athlete, but his production was off the charts and I think you're right in that he'll be solid at the next level.

Rewatching the highlights of that Ole Miss bowl game beat down was pretty fun! Dawson played like a man possessed. I don't know if it was Tessitore, Tebow, or someone else, but one of the commentators mentions that a lot of coach Patterson's LBs are now playing on Sundays and Dawson is going to be the next one to be lighting it up at the next level. He's used to wearing purple!


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Cheers to that, maybe Spielman trades up into the early second or late first to nab him. It would make my offseason if we got him.


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If we could get a shutdown CB to put next to Rhodes and came back for this guy, our defense could be nasty.

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Dawson disappointed pretty big at the combine. Could lead to him landing him later?

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Paul Dawson, LB, TCU: The workouts in Indy are not supposed to hurt a player's stock, but it will be hard for scouts to overlook Dawson's disappointing performance on Sunday. He posted pedestrian times in the 40 (4.93) and didn't show any explosiveness in the jumping drills (28-inch vertical, 109-inch broad). Those lackluster marks accompanied a dismal performance in the positional workout, where he looked stiff and upright while changing directions. Although Dawson's game tape is as solid as any prospect in the 2015 class, this lack of athleticism and explosiveness could prompt some teams to drop their grades on the standout linebacker.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... isappoints

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Dawson disappointed pretty big at the combine. Could lead to him landing him later?

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Paul Dawson, LB, TCU: The workouts in Indy are not supposed to hurt a player's stock, but it will be hard for scouts to overlook Dawson's disappointing performance on Sunday. He posted pedestrian times in the 40 (4.93) and didn't show any explosiveness in the jumping drills (28-inch vertical, 109-inch broad). Those lackluster marks accompanied a dismal performance in the positional workout, where he looked stiff and upright while changing directions. Although Dawson's game tape is as solid as any prospect in the 2015 class, this lack of athleticism and explosiveness could prompt some teams to drop their grades on the standout linebacker.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... isappoints


I feel like this coaching staff is less likely to take a player like this on defense. I think the staff is pretty confident in their 'molding' abilities and I think physical attributes become more important in that situation. I think their pick of Barr kind of reflects that.

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Dawson disappointed pretty big at the combine. Could lead to him landing him later?

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Paul Dawson, LB, TCU: The workouts in Indy are not supposed to hurt a player's stock, but it will be hard for scouts to overlook Dawson's disappointing performance on Sunday. He posted pedestrian times in the 40 (4.93) and didn't show any explosiveness in the jumping drills (28-inch vertical, 109-inch broad). Those lackluster marks accompanied a dismal performance in the positional workout, where he looked stiff and upright while changing directions. Although Dawson's game tape is as solid as any prospect in the 2015 class, this lack of athleticism and explosiveness could prompt some teams to drop their grades on the standout linebacker.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... isappoints


I feel like this coaching staff is less likely to take a player like this on defense. I think the staff is pretty confident in their 'molding' abilities and I think physical attributes become more important in that situation. I think their pick of Barr kind of reflects that.


That's a good insight. I tend to agree. I'd love to see what Zimmer can mold out of guys like Barr with position flexibility and great athleticism, and I think that's what he is probably looking for.

I'm not opposed to Dawson, but I have a hard time imagining taking a 2 down OLB who will be on the field 25-35 percent of snaps being taken early in the draft.


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Cliff wrote:
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Dawson disappointed pretty big at the combine. Could lead to him landing him later?

[quote]Paul Dawson, LB, TCU: The workouts in Indy are not supposed to hurt a player's stock, but it will be hard for scouts to overlook Dawson's disappointing performance on Sunday. He posted pedestrian times in the 40 (4.93) and didn't show any explosiveness in the jumping drills (28-inch vertical, 109-inch broad). Those lackluster marks accompanied a dismal performance in the positional workout, where he looked stiff and upright while changing directions. Although Dawson's game tape is as solid as any prospect in the 2015 class, this lack of athleticism and explosiveness could prompt some teams to drop their grades on the standout linebacker.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... isappoints


I feel like this coaching staff is less likely to take a player like this on defense. I think the staff is pretty confident in their 'molding' abilities and I think physical attributes become more important in that situation. I think their pick of Barr kind of reflects that.


That's a good insight. I tend to agree. I'd love to see what Zimmer can mold out of guys like Barr with position flexibility and great athleticism, and I think that's what he is probably looking for.

I'm not opposed to Dawson, but I have a hard time imagining taking a 2 down OLB who will be on the field 25-35 percent of snaps being taken early in the draft.[/quote]

Dawson can be a 3 down MLB in the NFL, and I'm basing that off his game tape, not his combine tests.

The thing that worries me about him is the questions about his work ethic. If he's not a gym rat and film junkie, he's not going to make it. You can't get by in the NFL without it, even as good a player as Dawson is at football.


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The thing that worries me about him is the questions about his work ethic. If he's not a gym rat and film junkie, he's not going to make it. You can't get by in the NFL without it, even as good a player as Dawson is at football.


I'll cautiously say that I recall Burflict had a miserable combine that contributed to his stock falling out of the draft altogether (also helped by a myriad of off-field issues). But he's a solid LB (when healthy). Though I'm guessing lesser athletically-gifted players like Dawson face an even steeper battle to "make it." I'll be curious if he can improve his numbers during his pro day.

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The thing that worries me about him is the questions about his work ethic. If he's not a gym rat and film junkie, he's not going to make it. You can't get by in the NFL without it, even as good a player as Dawson is at football.


I'll cautiously say that I recall Burflict had a miserable combine that contributed to his stock falling out of the draft altogether (also helped by a myriad of off-field issues). But he's a solid LB (when healthy). Though I'm guessing lesser athletically-gifted players like Dawson face an even steeper battle to "make it." I'll be curious if he can improve his numbers during his pro day.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. Depending on where he falls, Zimmer could still go after him.

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Paul Dawson - LB - Horned Frogs

TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline noted that while TCU LB Paul Dawson "physically runs a 4.95 forty, mentally he plays at a 4.3 speed."

"Many were surprised by Paul Dawson’s poor forty time but those who saw him at combine training were not," Pauline wrote. "I was told while Dawson is not foot fast but his reaction speed has been off the charts. Dawson was one of the best they’ve seen when participating in reaction drills." Dawson performed poorly in combine tests, but he's never won on the field with elite athleticism. If he falls in April, some brave team is going to find itself a steal.
Source: TFY Draft Insider

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Dawson sounds a lot like Bobby Boucher.


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Paul Dawson - LB - Horned Frogs

NFL Media analyst Mike Mayock mentioned that an "old-school scout" told him to trust his gut on TCU LB Paul Dawson.

"Don't get off Paul Dawson. ... Trust your gut," the scout told Mike Mayock. The 6-foot, 235-pound TCU prospect, has shown great instincts on film and played at a high level for the Horned Frogs. While Dawson didn't show out at the combine like many expected, the eye in the sky is his best friend. Teams will have to go back and do their homework on Dawson and roll the dice if they believe he's their target on Day 1.
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NFL draft diary: TCU's Paul Dawson explains combine struggles

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should've gone easy on myself at the combine. I had a tweak in my hamstring in my first 40-yard dash. I felt it the last 10 yards or so. I should've just sat it down from there. But I wanted to keep going. I wanted to keep competing against everybody. I thought I could stretch it and do some other stuff to it before my next 40. It was still pretty tight on me. I still ran anyway.

The combine is just like the game. You treat it just like the game. Everybody is out there competing. In the game, I'm not going to sit down just because my hamstrings are tight or whatever. I'm going to keep competing, so that's what I decided to do. It turned out not too good. But my pro day will be much better.


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‏@TomPelissero #Vikings are among the teams that will have Paul Dawson in for a visit. Need linebackers and I can see the fit.

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NFL draft diary: TCU's Paul Dawson explains combine struggles

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should've gone easy on myself at the combine. I had a tweak in my hamstring in my first 40-yard dash. I felt it the last 10 yards or so. I should've just sat it down from there. But I wanted to keep going. I wanted to keep competing against everybody. I thought I could stretch it and do some other stuff to it before my next 40. It was still pretty tight on me. I still ran anyway.

The combine is just like the game. You treat it just like the game. Everybody is out there competing. In the game, I'm not going to sit down just because my hamstrings are tight or whatever. I'm going to keep competing, so that's what I decided to do. It turned out not too good. But my pro day will be much better.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ml ... /25035993/

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‏@TomPelissero #Vikings are among the teams that will have Paul Dawson in for a visit. Need linebackers and I can see the fit.


*Fingers crossed*

Say it with me:

The film doesn't lie

SERIOUSLY, everyone WATCH this whole tape and try to tell me that you don't want this kid playing for us:

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/paul-da ... sota-2014/

Paul Dawson knows how to PLAY.

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If I may post other LB's in this thread for comparison and debate.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015ILB.php
It looks to me that most of them are about the same physical level, which one of these guys has the best instincts? We need a MLB somehow fitting in with Zimmer. Will the Vikings pass again, not addressing this position, long term? For the love of purple, I hope not.

Stats for 2014:
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If there was an overriding theme to emerge from the Minnesota Vikings' visits at the NFL scouting combine last month, it was the team's interest in both inside and outside linebackers. The Vikings will continue to examine their options at linebacker when they spend some time with one of the more polarizing players in the draft.

TCU linebacker P.J. Dawson wrote in his USA Today prospect diary on Thursday that he has a visit scheduled with the Vikings, in addition to four other teams -- the Kansas City Chiefs, Carolina Panthers, Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Dawson, who was the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year, is trying to overcome a disappointing performance at the combine while dealing with some character questions.


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Top linebacker a la Zierlein:

Lance Zierlein's top 10 linebackers

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1. OLB Paul Dawson, TCU
Zierlein's bottom line: Outrageously productive linebacker with a nose for the ball. Dawson averages a tackle every 5.3 snaps and either caused or recovered a total of eight turnovers during the 2014 season. Evaluators understand that Dawson has been a handful while at TCU and that will turn some teams off to him completely. Dawson can play inside in a two-gap scheme but is a natural fit at 4-3 WILL.


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@Gil_Brandt LB Paul Dawson timed from 4.78 to 4.82 in 40 at TCU's pro day, improving on combine time (4.93); obviously, a big help for him.

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Dawson lost weight for his Pro Day, got down to 230, and he still runs a 4.8 40. Is he going to play at 230 in the NFL? I don't see how he can be a 3 down LB with his lack of foot speed. On the other hand his game tape is very good. Classic example of someone who plays faster than he times ... or ... someone whose college game doesn't project to the NFL. Flip a coin. I think he's going to slide to the 3rd round.


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I don't care about his 40 time at all. He's never going to be covering somebody 40 yards down the field without help.

His 10 yard dash is comparable to Luke Kuechly and his 20 yard dash is better. He doesn't have top end speed, but he can play in the box.

He needs to work in agility, but I'm not super worried about that. His numbers (except for the 40 time) are very similar to Navarro Bowman. If the tape says he can play, grab him. Don't worry about what he can't do, focus on what he can.

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Paul Dawson - LB - Horned Frogs

TFY Draft Insider Tony Pauline reports that TCU LB Paul Dawson met with the Minnesota Vikings Thursday, and has an official visit set up with the Vikings and Panthers, and will work out for the Patriots.

At his pro day, the 6-foot-2, 230-pound Dawson weighed five pounds lighter than he did at the combine. The TCU prospect posted 10-0 in the long jump, which was eleven inches better than his combine mark. Pauline notes that Dawson's "drill work was fantastic" and he "looked smooth, quick and explosive" and believes he did "enough to keep him in the top 45."
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RSP Film Room Review of Dawson: http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2015/03/09/rs ... ul-dawson/

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Case against Paul Dawson: http://www.footballsavages.com/rage-aga ... ul-dawson/

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Paul Dawson - LB - Horned Frogs

TCU LB Paul Dawson's "instincts and production are off the charts, and are untouchable by any linebacker in this draft," notes NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein.

Dawson's evaluation comes with reservations. He was frequently late for meetings in school and didn't always get along with his position coach. His combine performance was also amongst the worst showings of any player in this class. That said, we're smitten with him, as is Zierlein. "Dawson's production and instincts are first-round worthy, but he must prove he's fast enough for the NFL game or he'll be just another guy as a pro," the analyst wrote. Dawson had 136 tackles, 20 TFL, six sacks, three fumbles recovered, four interceptions and nine passes defensed in 29 targets last year. Those numbers are silly. Dawson has visited the San Francisco 49ers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Minnesota Vikings and Kansas City Chiefs and has had private workouts for the Bucs and Atlanta Falcons.
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They make a pretty strong case.


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They make a pretty strong case.


Indeed. I'm in the "shy away" camp myself but if the Vikings draft him I'm all for being totally and completely wrong.

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They make a pretty strong case.


I certainly like Kendricks and Anthony a lot better.


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