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Re: Internet 2015 mock drafts

Post by S197 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:41 pm

I think two things that might really shake up this draft is if Mariota fall out of the top 10 or Gurley is picked top 10. Both seem unlikely but who saw Bridgewater falling to 32. Same with Floyd. The former would be bad for the Vikings, the latter good assuming they aren't targeting him.

Also, is this the first year where the top 2 QB's (and the potential #1 overall) won't be present?
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Post by dead_poet » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:55 am

Josh Norris' latest mock (4/24): http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/5 ... mock-draft

He sticks with the overwhelming consensus at this point for us:
11. Minnesota Vikings - CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State -Everything points to the Vikings selecting a cornerback. So will it happen? I could see one of three names: Waynes, Byron Jones and Kevin Johnson. Waynes is a pure press corner who uses length and frame to stick with receivers and combat the catch point.
Has Cleveland trading up to #2 for Mariota and the Titans taking Gurley with Cleveland's first pick.
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Post by dead_poet » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:49 pm

NFL Mock Draft Live: Beat writers' picks

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp ... story.html

Vikings on the clock.

Edit: Mark Craig selects....

Scherff.
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Post by dead_poet » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:17 am

Jeff Lloyd final mock (4/27): http://draftbreakdown.com/mockdrafts/je ... ock-draft/
11. Kevin Johnson - CB - Wake Forest
Shelton drops to second round
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Post by dead_poet » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:13 pm

Josh Norris' final top-200: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/5 ... gs-top-200

Breaking a bit of conventional thought. Winston #1, Collins over Scherff, Gurley #3, Kendricks #7, Gregory #8, Anderson #10, DGB #14, Waynes #39 and so forth.
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Post by dead_poet » Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:37 am

Mayock's updated Top-100 (4/27): http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -prospects

David Johnson ahead of Ajayi, Tevin & Yeldon. Donovan Smith ahead of Ogbuehi. He's still a Waynes fan with him at #7 overall. Randall over Collins. I'm seeing much more Malcom Brown love lately. Kendricks tumbles on his list (45).
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Mayock's final positional rankings: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... ankings-50
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Post by Pseudo Everything » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:08 pm

dead_poet wrote:Mayock's updated Top-100 (4/27): http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -prospects

David Johnson ahead of Ajayi, Tevin & Yeldon. Donovan Smith ahead of Ogbuehi. He's still a Waynes fan with him at #7 overall. Randall over Collins. I'm seeing much more Malcom Brown love lately. Kendricks tumbles on his list (45).
Duke (Miami) instead of David (Northern Iowa). Johnson that is.

So Mayock has Gregory at 17 and Ray at 18. I assume that factors in Ray's recent arrest for marijuana possession. Today's news about Dion Jordan being suspended for the entire 2015 season for substance abuse is probably going to make teams focus even more on the risk that these guys carry. Add Jalen Collins (CB LSU) to the list as he reportedly had 4 failed drugs tests in college. Begs the question ... how can a player fail 4 drug tests in college and never be suspended for a single game?

Hard to believe that Ray can't put the pipe down just three days before the draft. He must be a very regular user for that to happen given the amount of money that is on the line.

All three of these guys are going lower than than otherwise should. How low is anyone's guess. If they can stay clean someone is going to get tremendous value. Of course that's a big "if".
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Post by fiestavike » Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:40 pm

Pseudo Everything wrote: Begs the question ... how can a player fail 4 drug tests in college and never be suspended for a single game?
Go to LSU?
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Post by dead_poet » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:45 am

Gabriel's final mock: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/fin ... ock-draft/
11) Minnesota – Trae Waynes – DC – Michigan State – The NFC North is loaded with tall receivers and you need tall corners to match up. Waynes is the best corner in this draft and helps Minnesota upgrade their defense. If they don’t make this selection, they could very well choose a wide receiver.
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Post by Pseudo Everything » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:02 pm

I keep seeing Trae Waynes being referred to as a "tall" corner. His official combine height was listed as 6'0". A number of top corners are 5'11" (e.g. Revis, Hayden, etc) and they are definitely not considered as tall corners. Is 6 feet even (or one inch more than guys like Revis or Hayden) enough to be considered a tall corner?

It might be that Waynes looks taller than he is because he's fairly thin at 186 pounds.
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Post by dead_poet » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:36 pm

Pseudo Everything wrote:I keep seeing Trae Waynes being referred to as a "tall" corner. His official combine height was listed as 6'0". A number of top corners are 5'11" (e.g. Revis, Hayden, etc) and they are definitely not considered as tall corners. Is 6 feet even (or one inch more than guys like Revis or Hayden) enough to be considered a tall corner?

It might be that Waynes looks taller than he is because he's fairly thin at 186 pounds.
I see that tossed around a lot, too. I also see in the same breath Kevin Johnson being "undersized" when they're really close physically. I don't know what the mean height is for an "outside" corner but I'd think 6'0 would be considered "good" or "enough height" to not be at much of a disadvantage.

I think it depends on how you view them. Waynes supporters usually say he has "good size" while others who aren't as supportive have called him "slight" or "undersized" to help make a case one way or the other. I don't think his height is an issue on the outside.
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Post by S197 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:11 pm

dead_poet wrote:Mike Mayock's one and only mock: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-draf ... ock/270801
Oooh passing on Beasley? Not sure I like that.
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Post by dead_poet » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:26 pm

S197 wrote: Oooh passing on Beasley? Not sure I like that.
I've been seeing a bit more of this lately. McShay, Mayock and Gruden are all lower on him than most. I don't know what number he's at now but a week ago he was ranked #16 on Kiper's board. He's probably a better fit for a 3-4. If available, do you make him gain 20 pounds or so as a LDE or play him at WILL?

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Vic Beasley - DL - Tigers

Referring to Clemson edge rusher Vic Beasley's struggles with the run, ESPN NFL Insider Jon Gruden points out that "Jared Allen and DeMarcus Ware ... know you have to stop the run to set up situations to be able to rush the passer."

Beasley had 33 sacks with the Tigers, but Gruden mentions that he needs space to excel. Beasley can bench press with some of the top edge rushers in the class, but Gruden sees another issue when evaluating his run defense. "When I watch Beasley, I don't feel like he wants to get into the bottom of that pile," he said. "I want to see him retrace and be a part of the tackle, be a part of the pile. Opposing coaches will shift a tackle and a tight end into an unbalanced line and find Beasley if they think they can overpower him -- he won't just be allowed to play in space."
Source: ESPN Insider
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