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Watch David Fales here: http://www.sjsuspartans.com/sports/m-fo ... 14aaa.html

It's kind of hard to know when the official program starts. Maybe at the one-hour, 10-minute mark. Or one-hour, 25-minute mark. Not sure.

Edit: I think now the official scripted 53 throws starts at 1-hour, 35-minute mark.

Overall, I thought Fales looked sharper than Bortles.

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One high-ranking NFL official on hand for San Jose State's workout characterized senior quarterback David Fales' scripted 52-play throwing session as "pretty damn good." Fales reportedly only missed on one pass the entire day -- a deep post that sailed just a bit long.

The scout also passed along that he timed wideout Chandler Jones at 4.38 seconds in both of his attempts at the 40-yard dash.

The underrated duo personified a San Jose State program that didn't generate a lot of national attention in 2013 but clearly is valued by NFL scouts, as evidenced by the fact that 35 scouts representing 25 NFL teams attended the Pro Day.

Fales, who out-played Fresno State's Derek Carr in a highly anticipated showdown November 29 that ended the Bulldogs' then-undefeated season, ranks as one of the more intriguing second-tier quarterbacks in the 2014 draft class. He struggled early with illness at the Senior Bowl but improved each day in Mobile and was at his best during the all-important Wednesday practice. His reputation as a gamer only improved this Wednesday, as well, as he showed impressive accuracy throughout the throwing session.

While Fales' ball placement is worth noting, the reason he's viewed as a second-tier prospect rather than a potential first round candidate is that he lacks ideal arm strength. Fales relies on anticipation and accuracy to be effective -- traits which could lead to success in a traditional West Coast Offense-based scheme but may not cut it in other, more aggressive vertical passing attacks.

Fales' highly accurate passes left scouts impressed but it was the speed demonstrated by his former receiver, Jones, that could wind up having a greater impact on draft day.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl- ... te-workout

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Fresno QB Derek Carr vomited last night and went to the hospital for treatment and IVs, per source. But plans to go thru w pro day in full.

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Fresno QB Derek Carr vomited last night and went to the hospital for treatment and IVs, per source. But plans to go thru w pro day in full.

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Nerves, maybe?

Good for him to push through. Good luck, too!

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Nerves, maybe?

Good for him to push through. Good luck, too!


Apparently, it was a virus:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... talization

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NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport reports that Carr spent Wednesday night battling a stomach virus. He was throwing up, and was treated with an IV. Carr was, however, able to keep every meeting that he had planned prior to the workout, and the quarterback still intends to throw on Thursday.

"He will be ready," a source told Rapoport.

"I'm doing fine and I feel a lot better than I did at about 5 a.m. this morning," Carr told NFL Network on Thursday morning.


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Didn't know where else to put this, but here's a link to to PA interviewing Zimmer and they talk about Bridgewater's pro day. Interesting quote from Zimmer:

PA: With Bridgewater and that reportedly uneven pro day. Any word on what happened to him that day?

Zimmer: You know Paul, honestly I wasn't even there that day, and I know that it was reported that I was, but I have not seen the workout. Obviously I've talked to Norv and those guys and from what Norv's told me it wasn't anything like what is being reported


http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/audi ... 8ac5fe8d7e

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Zimmer: You know Paul, honestly I wasn't even there that day, and I know that it was reported that I was, but I have not seen the workout. Obviously I've talked to Norv and those guys and from what Norv's told me it wasn't anything like what is being reported


Hmm. Very, very interesting.

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Norv is at Carr's workout today:

http://nflspinzone.com/2014/03/20/norv- ... s-pro-day/

Edit: Apparently, Rick Spielman is there too, as are representatives of the Raiders and Jaguars.


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Tweeted impressions of Carr's pro day workout from NFLN's @PaulWBurmeister

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— Not a trace of wind inside Bulldog Stadium here. Warm but not hot. Ideal conditions for a QB to show off.

— 30 throws into workout, ball hasn't touched the ground. Looks sharp.

— The no-hitter won't happen. 43rd pass underthrown and hit the ground.

— Carr's workout over. Sharp and consistent throughout. 60 passes and I don't recall a real bad throw. He did very well.


Fresno Bee sports columnist Marek Warszawski (‏@MarekTheBee) tweeted:

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— Derek Carr showed too much arm strength on some of his deep throws.
— Derek Carr completed 56 of 63 passes during pro day workout. Most incompletions were overthrows on deep balls.
— Derek Carr completed 46 straight passes in pro day workout before a drop.


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Rob Rang's take on Carr's pro day: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl- ... -bad-throw

He also talks about WR Davante Adams and TE Marcel Jensen, who apparently had good workouts.

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NFL.com has a blog dedicated to pro days:

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

You can get Burmeister's take in a video clip at the link above. He was asked to compare Carr's workout to Bortles' and his response was interesting.

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All 32 NFL teams were represented at Fresno State’s pro day on Thursday inside Bulldog Stadium, where quarterback Derek Carr took center stage to showcase his skills in front of such notables as the entire Oakland Raiders coaching staff (including head coach Dennis Allen), Minnesota Vikings general manager Rick Spielman and offensive coordinator Norv Turner.

The Raiders met with Carr this morning before the pro day workout.

Carr managed to execute what Turner said was “an outstanding workout” despite spending part of Wednesday in the hospital.


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Norv Turner, on Derek Carr's pro day:

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“Obviously, he was very impressive today,” Turner said per Associated Press. “He came out and showed he has a strong arm, very accurate, he made all the throws. He had a heck of a workout.”


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And Bridgwater looked awful :lol:

He sure did.


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Big arm guys will always look great in their pro day. It's partially the reason Mayock and the scouts were "wowed" by JaMarcus Russell. I think even Kyle Boller threw the ball 65 yards from his knee (and was subsequently drafted in the 1st). Problem is you put on the pads, have four 300lb guys bull rushing you and this happens:



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Johnny Manziel wearing helmet, pads during pro day

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NFL Media senior analyst Gil Brandt was able to wrangle Manziel prior to his workout, and asked him why he made the decision. Manziel's response: "Isn't the game played with them on?"


A source told Breer of Manziel's decision to throw in pads: "Because anyone can throw in a t-shirt and shorts."

Scouts will no doubt appreciate the move, and it's not a bad idea, necessarily, for Manziel to do something to set himself apart from the other quarterback prospects in the draft.

"Scouts will love it," an NFC scout not assigned to Manziel's pro day told College Football 24/7 via text message. "Just something no one has ever done before."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... on-pro-day

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With all the caveats needed applied here about pro days, Manziel has been really impressive today.

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Manziel 61-of-64: 1 drop, 1 low miss, 1 out of bounds.

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Interesting: McShay/Polian in agreement that Johnny Manziel has stronger arm than Blake Bortles or Teddy Bridgewater.

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‏@greggabe Analysts are talking Manzi's arm vs Bortles. My take.. Manziel's is good. Bortles is average

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Damn “@RichCimini: Manziel is slinging it. Bill Polian says Manziel's deep ball reminds him of Jim Kelly. #nyj”

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‏@greggabeThey are saying that last throw was 60+ yards, it wasn't it was 55. Threw from 40, caught at 5


Some GIFs of his throws and more "live" observations: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2008 ... highlights

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@CSimmsQB Impressive workout by Johnny football. He is a very natural thrower. More impressive than bortles and bridgewater throwing the football

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Jon Gruden: “Steve Young is who I see when I watch Johnny Manziel’s tape. Lot of common ground: size, speed, playmaking ability and upside.”

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Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel unleashes a 60-yard bomb to cap off his pro day, and celebrates with his teammate, wide receiver Mike Evans.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-p ... ith-a-bang

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ESPN's Ron Jaworski said he was very impressed by Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel's workout.

In fact, Jaworski called it "magnificent" and believes the quarterback's stock will go up after this pro day. Jaworski has been one of Manziel's toughest critics, even saying he would not select the quarterback in the top three rounds of the draft. However, that changed immediately after the workout, as Jaws revealed he would use a top three round pick on Manziel and mentioned he loved that the Aggie wore pads and a helmet while throwing.

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ESPN's Ron Jaworski said he was very impressed by Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel's workout.

In fact, Jaworski called it "magnificent" and believes the quarterback's stock will go up after this pro day. Jaworski has been one of Manziel's toughest critics, even saying he would not select the quarterback in the top three rounds of the draft. However, that changed immediately after the workout, as Jaws revealed he would use a top three round pick on Manziel and mentioned he loved that the Aggie wore pads and a helmet while throwing.



Aw, Jaws…. too funny. Just admit it. You said those things just to get some attention and to boost ratings.


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I have watched the Big 4 Pro Days, Teddy did not inspire me. Bortles puts too much air under his passes, and has a lot of floaters. Carr's pro day was ok I wasn't really wowed by him. But Manziel? Jesus H. christ on a pogostick, I am completely sold on this Kid, He had great velocity on his passes, Accuracy at short, mid, and long range. I was mouth agape watching his Pro Day. I will admit I was not big on Johnny and thought he would be another Tebow, his proday yesterday completely changed my mind. I would trade up for him if I was a GM, he just has it.

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Mayock talks Manziel: http://www.sports790.com/onair/the-prop ... -12200032/

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Thanks for the link. That's good, level-headed analysis from Mayock. I enjoyed listening to it.


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Mettenberger, who had surgery on Jan. 2 to repair his left knee, threw nearly 125 passes and made every throw while wearing a helmet and shoulder pads -- the new trend started by fellow prospect Johnny Manziel last month.

The 6-foot-5, 224-pounder moved in the pocket and threw on the run at times. And he consistently showed off a big arm that many analysts consider to be among the strongest of this year's draft prospects.

Naturally, Mettenberger showed some signs of fatigue with a few mistimed throws. But observers said he threw even more balls than quarterbacks usually do. And his arm strength remained intact through the workout.

"I thought he did outstanding. Almost miraculous," said LSU offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, the longtime former NFL coach who directed the workout. "Thirteen weeks after surgery, to come out here and throw more than a hundred balls and complete 90-plus percent of them...




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 QB Zach Mettenberger dined with four Vikings officials following his Wednesday Pro Day.

A league source told beat writer Ben Goessling that OC Norv Turner was "calling out routes" he wanted Mettenberger to throw by the end of his workout. Per Goessling, the Vikings are "believed to be high on Mettenberger," who is a classic, big-armed pocket passer in the Troy Aikman-Philip Rivers mold. Turner was Aikman's coordinator in Dallas, and Rivers' head coach in San Diego.

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Georgia quarterback Aaron Murray threw at his pro day on Wednesday morning, five months after tearing his ACL, but as CBS Atlanta reporter Robbie Rosenhaus told Vikings play-by-play guy Paul Allen on his show this morning, the Vikings only had a scout there. General manager Rick Spielman and coach Mike Zimmer were both at the team facility during the Vikings' offseason workout on Tuesday, and the Vikings have draft hopefuls in town on Wednesday and Thursday for their top-30 prospects event. They've typically been sending Spielman, Zimmer and Turner to meet with quarterbacks after their pro days, and though the Vikings could still schedule a private workout with Murray between now and the draft, their approach to his pro day might indicate he's not as high on their list as other quarterbacks. Then again, we're in that time of year where teams are doing their best to conceal their intentions, and it's always possible the Vikings are trying to do that with Murray.


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Georgia quarterback Aaron Murray threw at his pro day on Wednesday morning, five months after tearing his ACL, but as CBS Atlanta reporter Robbie Rosenhaus told Vikings play-by-play guy Paul Allen on his show this morning, the Vikings only had a scout there. General manager Rick Spielman and coach Mike Zimmer were both at the team facility during the Vikings' offseason workout on Tuesday, and the Vikings have draft hopefuls in town on Wednesday and Thursday for their top-30 prospects event. They've typically been sending Spielman, Zimmer and Turner to meet with quarterbacks after their pro days, and though the Vikings could still schedule a private workout with Murray between now and the draft, their approach to his pro day might indicate he's not as high on their list as other quarterbacks. Then again, we're in that time of year where teams are doing their best to conceal their intentions, and it's always possible the Vikings are trying to do that with Murray.


http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikin ... n-qb-items


In other words, there's really nothing to be gleaned from the Vikings choice to send a scout to Murray's workout instead of Zimmer, turner and Spielman all attending it themselves. ;)

Thanks for the link though!


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I glean that Spielman is a horrible judge of QBs!!!


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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl- ... ng-workout

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For a prospect who was a four-year SEC starting quarterback and holds numerous school and conference passing records, Georgia's Aaron Murray still has a lot to prove. And on Wednesday at the school's on-campus pro day, he checked a lot of boxes for NFL scouts, most importantly throwing well with his surgically repaired knee.

Murray completed 48 of 54 passes outside on the Bulldogs' practice fields, showing he could throw the entire route tree and that the knee injury wasn't a concern. He suffered a torn ACL in his left knee last November and rehabbed vigorously to be walking without crutches by the NFL combine and looked natural in his movements on Wednesday -- a remarkable recovery in less than five months.

Murray's 54-pass script was run by former NFL quarterback coach, Terry Shea, and was designed to show a myriad of different throws with the former Bulldog quarterback moving, planting and showing full range of motion with his knee.


More at the link.


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