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Ron Jaworski talks about Manziel

Post by Tark10 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:45 am

Saw a Ron Jaworski segment on his opinion of Manziel transitioning his game to the NFL. It was not very promising. Jaws stated that he was a great college quarterback who would have difficulty making the jump to the NFL. He considered him a long term project and would not draft him till at least the fourth round. This should be a more interesting draft then in recent years.
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Post by frosted » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:48 am

I don't know about Jaws sometimes. He recently stated Joe Flacco was a better quarterback than Drew Brees.
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Post by Funkytown » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:55 am

frosted21 wrote:I don't know about Jaws sometimes. He recently stated Joe Flacco was a better quarterback than Drew Brees.
:shock:

...what?!
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Post by frosted » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:22 am

Funkytown wrote: :shock:

...what?!
Yeah in his QB rankings last offseason, Matt Ryan and Flacco were four and five and Brees was six.

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Post by Purpnation » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:25 am

frosted21 wrote: Yeah in his QB rankings last offseason, Matt Ryan and Flacco were four and five and Brees was six.

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I think maybe he meant who was playing better at the time? Idk, I have a hard time justifying that, but I also have a hard time believing he really thought Flacco was at any point better then Brees, I mean, really, he can't really believe that, can he?
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Post by Mothman » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:35 am

Purpnation wrote:I think maybe he meant who was playing better at the time? Idk, I have a hard time justifying that, but I also have a hard time believing he really thought Flacco was at any point better then Brees, I mean, really, he can't really believe that, can he?
I think he ranked Flacco one or two slots ahead of Brees when ranking the NFL starting QBs last offseason.

Jaworski knows a LOT about QB play but he's prone to overstating things and getting carried away with what he says when hyped up about how a player is playing at a particular time. When he's breaking down film or analyzing the performance of a particular QB, I think he's well worth a listen. When he's ranking QBs or speaking extemporaneously (ie; without preparation), he tends to go overboard.
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Post by KSViking » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:57 am

The more I see him, and read about him, the more I hope that the Vikings avoid him. I like Bridgewater and Bortles. Both have a lot of critics, and long list of things that would need to be improved to transition to the Pro game. Manziel just feels like the land mine in this years draft to me.
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Post by Purpnation » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:15 pm

KSViking wrote:The more I see him, and read about him, the more I hope that the Vikings avoid him. I like Bridgewater and Bortles. Both have a lot of critics, and long list of things that would need to be improved to transition to the Pro game. Manziel just feels like the land mine in this years draft to me.
Man, if Bridgewater fell to us I would FLIP. That dude just has 'it'.
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Post by Texas Vike » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:03 pm

I hope Manziel dives down the boards and we snag him in the 2nd. He already plays w/ a chip on his shoulder. That kind of disrespect would light a TX sized flame under his back side.
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Post by frosted » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:11 pm

Texas Vike wrote:I hope Manziel dives down the boards and we snag him in the 2nd. He already plays w/ a chip on his shoulder. That kind of disrespect would light a TX sized flame under his back side.
Yeah, I am in the minority it seems, but I believe he will be a good NFL starting quarterback.
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Post by Texas Vike » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:15 pm

frosted21 wrote: Yeah, I am in the minority it seems, but I believe he will be a good NFL starting quarterback.
The very divergent opinions on how he'll make the transition are to be expected. His style of play is somewhat unconventional for the NFL. I say somewhat because the definition of NFL QB is in flux and I think Manziel might be the next guy to redefine it. He might also not amount to much in the NFL--so hard to predict.
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Post by majorm » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:42 am

frosted21 wrote:I don't know about Jaws sometimes. He recently stated Joe Flacco was a better quarterback than Drew Brees.
Well, he's won just as many Super Bowls. That's all that matters anymore isn't it?
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Re: Ron Jaworski talks about Manziel

Post by VikingLord » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:55 pm

While I don't necessarily agree with Jaworski, I do agree that Manziel is far from a sure bet. He'll go in the top 5 almost certainly, but his game still has quite a bit of maturing to do before I'm convinced it will translate well to the pros.

With that said, his ability to play at a high level in college and rise to the challenge in big games suggests he has a good chance of making that transition. Still, I see Manziel as a fairly high risk pick. I hope Spielman doesn't trade up to get any of the top QB's in this year's draft (in either the 1st or 2nd rounds). There just isn't anything resembling a sure thing in this year's draft at QB, and if there is a little early run on them in the top 7, that should drop at least one bona-fide top-tier talent down to #8. Think AD... Maybe one of the two highly-rated OTs (could slot them in at guard to replace Johnson), LBs (3 legit prospects there actually), WR (Watkins would be killer in Purple across from Patterson), or who knows? Maybe even Clowney could still screw up enough to drop his stock to #8. Stranger things have happened.
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Re: Ron Jaworski talks about Manziel

Post by Laserman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:29 pm

Unless a team is dream reaching, I think manziel will slide down in the draft much like Brady Quinn, Aaron Rogers, Geno Smith, ect ect did. Too many lucky plays looked at by analyst as "Playmaking" against inferior College players just simply won't happen in the nfl. I wouldn't draft him and build a franchise around this guy
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Re: Ron Jaworski talks about Manziel

Post by Laserman » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:32 pm

Bridgewater's Throwing motion reminds me a TJack. He tends to flip the ball downfield with a High School throwing motion using his forearm and wrist instead of using the Shoulder. Not too wild about bridgewater. Just not a Pure NFL passer throwing Motion to my eyes
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