Certainly possible but there's still a good amount of QBs that are likely to be taken ahead of him on day two. I think Grappolo and Mettenberger are two of them.Mothman wrote:Since so many people seem to think Murray will be a good pro, how likely is it that he will actually be a day 3 pick? I would think a team that believes his injury won't pose long term problems might draft him on day 2, maybe even in round 2. After all, if you think the guy is a potential franchise QB, why wait and hope he lasts until the 4th round or later?
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I would group all three of them together and think that they have as good of chance of all making it as Carr does.S197 wrote: Certainly possible but there's still a good amount of QBs that are likely to be taken ahead of him on day two. I think Grappolo and Mettenberger are two of them.
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Well Jim is asking how likely it will be that he even lasts until the third day. I agree that all are around the similar tier (my choice being Mett) but it only takes one team to really like a certain player so who knows.Purple bruise wrote: I would group all three of them together and think that they have as good of chance of all making it as Carr does.
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S197 said, "Well Jim is asking how likely it will be that he even lasts until the third day. I agree that all are around the similar tier (my choice being Mett) but it only takes one team to really like a certain player so who knows.[/quote]
I have a hunch that Murray will be "that guy" that a team jumps up into the 2nd round and takes him. He and Brees remind me a whole lot of each other.
I have a hunch that Murray will be "that guy" that a team jumps up into the 2nd round and takes him. He and Brees remind me a whole lot of each other.
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Film Room: UCF's fast-rising Blake Bortles not elite QB
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200000 ... t-elite-qbI believe we should pause a bit before anointing Central Florida's Blake Bortles as the next great franchise quarterback. Now, I know I might be the dissenting voice on his potential based on the buzz that is building in his favor, but I believe the tape reveals a good, not great, college player. That doesn't mean that I can't see a handful of teams viewing him as a future starting quarterback, but I didn't see an elite player when I studied the tape. Here are my thoughts on the fastest-rising prospect in college football:
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I have a hunch that Murray will be "that guy" that a team jumps up into the 2nd round and takes him. He and Brees remind me a whole lot of each other.[/quote]Purple bruise wrote:S197 said, "Well Jim is asking how likely it will be that he even lasts until the third day. I agree that all are around the similar tier (my choice being Mett) but it only takes one team to really like a certain player so who knows.
I have the same hunch. It wouldn't even surprise me if he was taken ahead of someone like Garappolo or Mettenberger. It think it just depends on how teams rate these guys and how they believe they'll fit into the team.
Anyway, thanks for all the feedback on my question, fellow Vikes fans!
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Thanks for the link. I always enjoy reading Brooks' thoughtful, detailed takes on players.dead_poet wrote:Film Room: UCF's fast-rising Blake Bortles not elite QB
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UCF's Pro Day streaming live today at 11 a.m. CST: http://www.jaguars.com/live/
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Bortles reportedly to throw around 1 p.m. CSTdead_poet wrote:UCF's Pro Day streaming live today at 11 a.m. CST: http://www.jaguars.com/live/
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I don't watch a lot of pro days, but it was very "meh" by my eyes. Some wobbly passes, he missed a few, not great placement on a few completions and more overthrows on deep routes than I would've liked to have seen. I don't know what I expected, but I was underwhelmed. I'll be curious to see what the "experts" say about it.
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Pelissero:
I had Bortles at 41-of-50. Six of the misses deep. Several overthrows.
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Right now on ESPN, Todd McShay says Blake Bortles is now his top QB in the draft over watching him live over Teddy. Jaws agrees.
@AlbertBreer on TwitterOne coach at Bortles' Pro Day texted that he did a "nice job" ... "Drove the ball down the field, accurate in the pocket and on the run. Coach added that Bortles was a little stiff, but overall looked better than Bridgewater. Said BB showed his strength today.
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http://www.startribune.com/blogs/56735627.htmlAccording to NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock, who covered today's workout, Bortles was satisfactory. And that’s a step up from Mayock’s level of disappointment with Bridgewater’s shaky and inaccurate effort on Monday.
“I thought [the workout] looked like it was supposed to look like,” Mayock said of Bortles’ pro day. “When you’re talking about a 6-foot-5, 229-pound quarterback, he’s athletic, and that’s obvious. … I thought it was really solid from every perspective. … Really good arm strength. I wouldn’t say elite, but I’d say really good. I think the word for this kid is `potential.’ Young, he’s got a lot of work to do and I can see that on tape. But what I saw out there is he’s potentially a franchise quarterback.”
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Thanks for all of the above, dead_poet, especially your own impressions.
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I saw this on my phone:dead_poet wrote:I don't watch a lot of pro days, but it was very "meh" by my eyes. Some wobbly passes, he missed a few, not great placement on a few completions and more overthrows on deep routes than I would've liked to have seen. I don't know what I expected, but I was underwhelmed. I'll be curious to see what the "experts" say about it.
ESPN - Blake Bortles had outstanding pro day, likely to be 1st QB taken in NFL draft, says ESPN's Ron Jaworski
And then I read your opinion, and I was confused. You posted some positive thoughts from a few experts, but did any of them come away "underwhelmed" as you did? I'm actually curious. "Outstanding" and "meh" are very conflicting views! I suppose reality is somewhere in between... I'm just shocked you didn't come away with something more positive, especially after reading that other comment.