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Yup. And coming on the heels of one of the very worst officiating mistakes ever! He certainly solidified his top five draft status.
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What happened the play before? I didnt see it..
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The ref gave Michigan a first down on a measurement that was CLEARLY not a first down. The Wolverines ran a fake punt and came close to a first down. When the chain gang came out, the tip of the ball was a good three inches short of the chain, and the ref, for reasons known only to him, signaled a Michigan first down.
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Wowmmi will be interested to see his explaination.BGM wrote:The ref gave Michigan a first down on a measurement that was CLEARLY not a first down. The Wolverines ran a fake punt and came close to a first down. When the chain gang came out, the tip of the ball was a good three inches short of the chain, and the ref, for reasons known only to him, signaled a Michigan first down.
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Lol, I typed that from my phone... I will be interested to see if there is an explanation on that call. That's pretty bad when you can't even do a measurement correctly.PurpleMustReign wrote: Wowmmi will be interested to see his explaination.
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Are they allowed to come out early in Football?80 PurplePride 84 wrote: In 2014. He's only a Sophomore.
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It's a massive hit for sure, but Michigan didn't even block the dude. Plus, he leads with his helmet and looks like he could have seriously hurt the running back. I mean, the dude's helmet doesn't just come off - it *pops* off.
Clowney does that in the pros and it will be 15 yards plus a big fine. Not to say it's a bad play or he did it intentionally, but as impressive as it looks, it's not all that impressive.
Clowney does that in the pros and it will be 15 yards plus a big fine. Not to say it's a bad play or he did it intentionally, but as impressive as it looks, it's not all that impressive.
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I'll agree on the lack of blocking on that play. He had been pretty much double teamed and contained all day. The thing with him is it takes one play. In the Tennessee game he was kept out of the backfield all day and then on Tennessee's final drive he got the lone sack of the day and sealed the game.VikingLord wrote:It's a massive hit for sure, but Michigan didn't even block the dude. Plus, he leads with his helmet and looks like he could have seriously hurt the running back. I mean, the dude's helmet doesn't just come off - it *pops* off.
Clowney does that in the pros and it will be 15 yards plus a big fine. Not to say it's a bad play or he did it intentionally, but as impressive as it looks, it's not all that impressive.
On the hit we'll have to disagree. He hits him facemask to numbers. He came in low and was exploding up, that's what knocks the helmet off.
He's going to be fun to watch next season.
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The guy is an absolute beast! Would love to see him in a vikings Uniform but will never happen
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Disagree 100% with pretty much everything you said.VikingLord wrote:It's a massive hit for sure, but Michigan didn't even block the dude. Plus, he leads with his helmet and looks like he could have seriously hurt the running back. I mean, the dude's helmet doesn't just come off - it *pops* off.
Clowney does that in the pros and it will be 15 yards plus a big fine. Not to say it's a bad play or he did it intentionally, but as impressive as it looks, it's not all that impressive.
Look at the replay at ground level from behind the running back. Lateral quickness is off the charts. They didn't block him because they couldn't ... Clowney went laterally from tackle to A-gap in about a half a nanosecond. Straight sideways off the snap and then upfield. The left tackle missed him by five feet. One of the most impressive plays you'll ever see.
And it was not a penalty. He hit the dude smack in the chest. The force knocked his helmet about 8 yards.
Go ahead. I dare you.
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OK, I looked at it again after your assessment because I wanted to see if I was off the mark and I partially agree with what you're saying.J. Kapp 11 wrote: Disagree 100% with pretty much everything you said.
Look at the replay at ground level from behind the running back. Lateral quickness is off the charts. They didn't block him because they couldn't ... Clowney went laterally from tackle to A-gap in about a half a nanosecond. Straight sideways off the snap and then upfield. The left tackle missed him by five feet. One of the most impressive plays you'll ever see.
And it was not a penalty. He hit the dude smack in the chest. The force knocked his helmet about 8 yards.
Based on the post-snap movement of the blockers and even where the LT and the LG are looking pre-snap, it appears that neither the LT nor LG was assigned to block the RDE (Clowney) on the the play. Both fire out into the 2nd level of the defense and appear set to block the 2 nearest LBs on the play.
I think its safe to assume that someone was assigned to the RDE on the play as it appears the play is designed to go in that direction. The next logical choice is the full back. It appears he could certainly have at least impeded the RDE, but he instead flares wide to block the DB who is up at the line.
So after looking at it more, it appears the guy who was supposed to block Clowney on the play is the RG. He pulls and tries to get over to where Clowney is, but Clowney is so aggressive rushing up the field that the RG can't get there in time to even impede him. There was just no time.
So on that score I have to give Clowney credit. He explodes into the backfield without any hesitation and simply beats the RG to the spot. With that said, I can't give him full credit as had the LT, LG, or even the FB been assigned to him he likely would not have been able to reach the RB with such devastating force. He gets credit for an explosive play, but his ability to make the play in such spectacular fashion was significantly helped by the blocking scheme coupled with Clowney's willingness to sell out to crash into the backfield.
As far as the legality of the hit, it was a solid hit. But in the context of the modern NFL, that hit would draw a fine and maybe a flag. I've watched a lot less get flagged and fined, and IMHO Clowney would have drawn both in the modern day NFL.
As far as Clowney himself goes, he's an impressive player.
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Nah that stuff rarely gets called on a running back. If it were a QB or defenseless receiver I could see but RB's take those types of shots all the time. I can't even remember a time when someone was flagged for a helmet to helmet hit on AD.