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I tried to add trades but lost all creativity after two. This Sh1t's hard. Compensatory picks also added in. Let me know what you think.

Round 1
Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M

Jaguars: Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida

Raiders: Trade #3 to MIA for picks 12, 42 & 52. Dolphins Select Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan

Eagles: Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon

Lions: Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU

Browns: Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama

Cardinals: Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma

Bills: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia

Jets: Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU

Titans: Bjoren Werner, DE, FSU

Chargers: Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama

Dolphins: *OAK* Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

Buccaneers: Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida St.

Panthers: Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou

Saints: Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M

Rams: Kenny Vaccaro, SS, Texas

Steelers: Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia

Cowboys: Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina

Giants: Dantone Jones, DE, UCLA

Bears: Arthur Brown, MLB, Kansas State

Bengals: DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama

Redskins: *STL* Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia

Vikings: Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

Colts: Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama

Seahawks: *MN* Manti Te'o, MLB, Notre Dame

Packers: Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina

Texans: DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson

Broncos: Alex Okafor, DE, Texas

Patriots: Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington

Falcons: Johnathan Banks, CB, Mississippi St.

49ers: Matt Elam, FS, Florida

Ravens: Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia

Round 2
Chiefs:*SF* Robert Woods, WR , USC

Jaguars: Johnathan Cypren, SS, FIU

Raiders: *CIN* Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU

Eagles: EJ Manuel, QB, Florida St

Lions: Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine-Bluff

Browns: *Supplimental Draft(

Cardinals: Eric Reid, FS, LSU

Bills: Justin Pugh, OL, Syracuse

Jets: Matt Barkley, QB, USC

Titans: Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky

Chargers: Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor

Dolphins: *OAK* Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise St.

Buccaneers: Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio St.

Panthers: Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech.

Saints: *Bounty Gate*

Rams: Kyle Long, OL, Oregon

Steelers: Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon St.

Cowboys: Kawaan Short, DT, Purdue

Giants: Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame

Bears: Kasheem Green, OLB, Rutgers

Bengals: Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon

Redskins: David Amerson, CB, NC State

Vikings: John Jenkins, NT, Georgia

Colts: *OAK via MIA* Margus Hunt, DE, SMU

Seahawks: Menelik Watson, OT, FSU

Packers: Eddy Lacy, RB, Alabama

Texans: Corey Lemonier, OLB, Auburn

Broncos: Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers

Patriots: Justin hunter, WR, Tennessee

Falcons: Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford

49ers: Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon St.

Ravens: Phillip Thomas, FS, Fresno St

Round 3

Chiefs: Jaime Collins, OLB, Southern Miss

Jaguars: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse

Raiders: Dwayne Gratz, CB, UCONN

Eagles: Robert Alford, CB, Southern Louisiana

Lions: B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary

Browns: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas

Cardinals: DJ Swearinger

Bills: Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech.

Jets: Jordan Reed, TE, Florida

Titans: Cornelius Washington, DE, Georgia

Chargers: Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern St.

Dolphins: Brian Winters, OG, Kent St.

Buccaneers: Jordan Mills, OT, Lousiana Tech.

Panthers: *SF* Akeem Spence, DT, Illiniois

Saints: David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose St.

Rams: Sean Porter, OLB, Texas A&M

Steelers: Giovanni Bernard, RB, North Carolina

Cowboys: Barrett Jones, OC, Alabama

Giants: Travis Fredrick, OC, Wisconsin

Bears: *MIA* Alvin Bailey, OG, Arkansas

Bengals: TJ McDonald, FS, USC

Redskins: Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UCONN

Vikings Tyraan Mathiau, CB, LSU

Colts: Sanders Commings, CB/FS, Georgia

Seahawks: Jordan Hill, DT, Penn St.

Packers: Leon McFadden, CB, San Diego St.

Texans: MN trades #99, 213 & 299 to HOU for #91 Vikings Select Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall

Broncos: Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse

Patriots: Xavier Nixon, OL, Florida St.

Falcons: Malliciah Goodman, DE, Clemson

49ers: Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina

Ravens: Brandon Jenkins, OLB, Florida St.

Texans(C): Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee

Chiefs(C): Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

Titans(C): Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M

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I can't see Spielman passing on Ogletree. I know the Vikes are emphasizing character players, but Ogletree's ceiling is too high to pass on.


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No minter in the first three rounds? i agree, we'd get ogletree if he drops. I do hope they get dobson and Matthieu


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I can't see Spielman passing on Ogletree. I know the Vikes are emphasizing character players, but Ogletree's ceiling is too high to pass on.


Not only can i see them passing on him. I am positive they will. He would be an outside backer in our 4-3 tampa-2 scheme. To put him at MLB would mean he would have to learn a completely different type of MLB than he did in Georgia's 3-4 scheme.

He's either an OLB here or an ILB in a 3-4 team like Baltimore.

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No minter in the first three rounds? i agree, we'd get ogletree if he drops. I do hope they get dobson and Matthieu


You know i felt like i was forgetting someone big. Cant believe i forgot about Minter.

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VikingLord wrote:
I can't see Spielman passing on Ogletree. I know the Vikes are emphasizing character players, but Ogletree's ceiling is too high to pass on.


Not only can i see them passing on him. I am positive they will. He would be an outside backer in our 4-3 tampa-2 scheme. To put him at MLB would mean he would have to learn a completely different type of MLB than he did in Georgia's 3-4 scheme.

He's either an OLB here or an ILB in a 3-4 team like Baltimore.


plus do we really want another headache player? its tough because he seems so good and a lot of talent but next thing you know he could be banned for life for something stupid


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I really appreciate an enjoy the classy, professional mentality our team has. It really does make a difference in my opinion when a team is professional on the field and not making dirty hits and letting their skill do the talking. I can't stand players and teams that get up in everyone's face after they make a decent tackle but still gave up a first down, or acting like they're superman because they score a touchdown but the team is still getting blown out. We have a class act, professional team here, and I don't wish to see them bring in any players that will counter act that attitude. BUT I ALSO I BELIEVE SOME TROUBLED PLAYERS WOULD DO BETTER HERE BECAUSE OF THE GREAT MENTORS THAT WOULD SURROUND THEM. So it's a tough call for me to say because some players change (Everson) and some players are always an issue(Harvin)


The difference with Griffen and Harvin was that the Vikings couldnt afford to lose Harvin. Griffen was a 4th round pick that had barely made the team. He had the choice of clean up your act or lose your job.

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i hate those showboaters that get all "fired" up after getting a stupid three yard game or tackle a game and make it seem like they saved the world and talk. Like when guys would tackle AP, as if they took down superman. well he is, but i mean come on.. he's already run for 150 yds and now you wanna talk smack. stupid. Classy is the way to go.


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i hate those showboaters that get all "fired" up after getting a stupid three yard game or tackle a game and make it seem like they saved the world and talk. Like when guys would tackle AP, as if they took down superman. well he is, but i mean come on.. he's already run for 150 yds and now you wanna talk smack. stupid. Classy is the way to go.


BJ Raji?

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he looked so pathetic. he should just keep dancing for state farm


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he looked so pathetic. he should just keep dancing for state farm


Tackles peterson for a 1 yard gain and he runs to the backfield shaking his finger like he actually made a difference.

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CaptainKirov wrote:
big deli Vike wrote:
he looked so pathetic. he should just keep dancing for state farm


Tackles peterson for a 1 yard gain and he runs to the backfield shaking his finger like he actually made a difference.


In a game where AD ran for almost 200 yards.

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big deli Vike wrote:
i hate those showboaters that get all "fired" up after getting a stupid three yard game or tackle a game and make it seem like they saved the world and talk. Like when guys would tackle AP, as if they took down superman. well he is, but i mean come on.. he's already run for 150 yds and now you wanna talk smack. stupid. Classy is the way to go.


I couldn't agree more. I thought I was the only one who got extremely annoyed when guys tackle AP and think they are the shizz. lol. It's pathetic. Makes it that much sweeter when AP smokes them shortly after.

I do appreciate a little cockiness, though. I can admit that. I do love the way the organization is changing things, BUT, a little cockiness never hurt. It pumps up the crowd and the team--and we all know how valuable that is in the Dome.

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big deli Vike wrote:
CaptainKirov wrote:
VikingLord wrote:
I can't see Spielman passing on Ogletree. I know the Vikes are emphasizing character players, but Ogletree's ceiling is too high to pass on.


Not only can i see them passing on him. I am positive they will. He would be an outside backer in our 4-3 tampa-2 scheme. To put him at MLB would mean he would have to learn a completely different type of MLB than he did in Georgia's 3-4 scheme.

He's either an OLB here or an ILB in a 3-4 team like Baltimore.


plus do we really want another headache player? its tough because he seems so good and a lot of talent but next thing you know he could be banned for life for something stupid


Yeah, drafting Randy Moss was just about the stupidest draft pick in the history of the franchise, riiiight? :roll:

Evaluating personality in a player is hard, and a huge amount of the hype around that stuff is spin by NFL insiders that want players to rise or fall. If you dig deep enough into most of the guys in the draft, you'll find problems of some sort. They're still basically kids. Stuff that most of us did as minors is stricken from the record. Stuff that a lot of kids did when they were 19 or 20 are long forgotten by the time they're 30. However, in pro sports, if you did something bad at 19, apparently you cannot tackle people + you are guaranteed to be a drunk.

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I don't see the Vikings trading with the Seahens. They've been raiding each other's free agent wire for years, especially after the Vikes stole Hutch from them with that poison pill contract (which was really a long time ago, and that grudge still comes up every year). Being a reasonable trading partner doesn't seem like it's in the cards quite yet.

I kind of see the Vikings sticking with that 25th pick, unless some team decides that they desperately need a player that won't slide past the end of the round and are willing to give the Vikings everything they want (which will probably be a steep price).

It's definitely pretty good work with this mock, I typically avoid doing the trades because that's impossible to really guess at. I don't totally like all the picks, and I think just putting a second round nose tackle in the middle won't solve the Vikings lack of a quality linebacker in the middle (when the Vikings have been a good defense, it's when they've had a middle linebacker that was good...I don't buy all that nonsense about Tampa-2 reducing the value of that position. EJ Henderson was a second round pick...when he was injured, their defense was noticeably worse for it). I probably wouldn't be happy if the Vikings drafted like this, but Patterson would probably settle me down pretty quickly. I can definitely respect the work that went into it...I've done a couple 3 round mocks myself, it's not easy to do it and sound reasonable about it (and make everyone happy).

I do think the Vikes should keep all their picks in this draft. They need quality players to push themselves over the hump and further into the playoffs, and the changes they made in free agency aren't much more than treading water.

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Yeah, drafting Randy Moss was just about the stupidest draft pick in the history of the franchise, riiiight? :roll:

Evaluating personality in a player is hard, and a huge amount of the hype around that stuff is spin by NFL insiders that want players to rise or fall. If you dig deep enough into most of the guys in the draft, you'll find problems of some sort. They're still basically kids. Stuff that most of us did as minors is stricken from the record. Stuff that a lot of kids did when they were 19 or 20 are long forgotten by the time they're 30. However, in pro sports, if you did something bad at 19, apparently you cannot tackle people + you are guaranteed to be a drunk.


no Onterrio Smith was, and Percy, unfortunately, was a pain.
Look at guys like stallworth and worse. Trouble
plus randy MOss never drove drunk or arrested for theft. The point is when there are as good or possibly better players that have character, so why bother


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Yeah, drafting Randy Moss was just about the stupidest draft pick in the history of the franchise, riiiight? :roll:

Evaluating personality in a player is hard, and a huge amount of the hype around that stuff is spin by NFL insiders that want players to rise or fall. If you dig deep enough into most of the guys in the draft, you'll find problems of some sort. They're still basically kids. Stuff that most of us did as minors is stricken from the record. Stuff that a lot of kids did when they were 19 or 20 are long forgotten by the time they're 30. However, in pro sports, if you did something bad at 19, apparently you cannot tackle people + you are guaranteed to be a drunk.


While it's true that sometimes taking a risk on a player with off-the-field issues can pay off, let's not just dismiss the flip side, which is that sometimes those issues become bigger problems and a risky pick doesn't work out. Sometimes players who show poor judgment at 19 or 21 continue showing it in the pros or their poor behavior escalates once they get the windfall of a huge signing bonus.

In the end, unless a player is a truly exceptional talent, the risk usually isn't worth it. Better to take a comparably talented player without character issues...


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In the end, unless a player is a truly exceptional talent, the risk usually isn't worth it. Better to take a comparably talented player without character issues...


I think that's overly simplistic. And, basically backward. More important to evaluate the level of risk than it is to just say a generic "risk" is worth it if the player is talented. I'm sure a lot of personnel guys spend a great deal of time asking each other and the coaching staff if they think they can handle a particular player's problems, which vary considerably.


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Mothman wrote:
In the end, unless a player is a truly exceptional talent, the risk usually isn't worth it. Better to take a comparably talented player without character issues...


I think that's overly simplistic. And, basically backward. More important to evaluate the level of risk than it is to just say a generic "risk" is worth it if the player is talented. I'm sure a lot of personnel guys spend a great deal of time asking each other and the coaching staff if they think they can handle a particular player's problems, which vary considerably.


It is simplistic but for once, I decided to be brief and not qualify my comments with further explanation. ;)

Of course each case is unique and should be evaluated on it's own merits, risks and potential rewards. All I was getting at was that if a team is looking at two players with comparable ability/potential and one presents much more risk but not significantly more reward, it probably makes sense to select the less risky option.


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You really can't know how these guys will end up. I'd rather them flame out with a guy that had a lot of talent than draft a nice guy who couldn't make it in the pros, though. At least with the talented guy, you might possibly get something out of the guy before he gets in trouble. And if the guy realizes that he's got to keep things in order off the field, and he's a model citizen, you've got a great player.

You get a nice guy that you reach for, well, maybe you could have just drafted that guy later. Or a reasonable facsimile. There's plenty of guys in every draft that know they can't match up based on their talent, so they do everything they can just to get themselves in the league.

The smart talent evaluators look a whole lot closer at the issues in a player's past, and usually go so far as to interview the parties involved to get the whole story. What you read in the media is often distorted, and two different people may take away two different things from each story. What most of us have read was what was in the media. In Ogletree's case, the media makes it sound like he's a "repeat offender" that "keeps doing the same stuff each year". If you read into it a little, you realize that it's not really the same stuff, it's different things and some of them are far worse than others. The big problem is the DUI, but even those things can be fixed by being in the right situation. Jared Allen had problems like that, too.

Even bonehead Onterrio Smith, whom the Vikings only wasted a fourth rounder on, produced far more numbers than nice guy Ciatrick Fason. If Smith hadn't pulled the Whizzinator at the airport bit, and Tice were a little more logical at the time, they might have even been able to deal Smith for a second or third round pick if they had pulled the trigger at the right time.

Most teams passed on Percy Harvin as well because his failed drug test made the rumor mill prior to the 2009 draft. It was completely true, but his real problems had nothing to do with his failed drug test (nor were Randy Moss's real problems, for that matter). You couldn't tell me that you could prove without a doubt that the problems that Randy Moss and Percy Harvin got into when they were in school were exactly what led them to arguing with their coaches later on. The root of their problem to the franchise was really because they were both among the, if not the, most talented players on their respective teams and they knew it. Their problems were egos. However, that's not a bad problem to have because it generally ends up with the Vikings trading that talent away for more picks than they originally drafted those problem children with. And while they played, both of them put up some really nice numbers and made the team competitive. On the contrary, the Vikings have drafted a fair number of really nice guys, or guys with injury histories, that ended up netting the Vikings absolutely nothing in the long run (and maybe only marginally produced while they were playing).

So basically, if I were to draft Ogletree, and he started off his career putting up beastly numbers of tackles and a fair helping of sacks and interceptions...then went on to argue constantly with Alan Williams and the Vikings were forced to deal him, chances are they might be able to get themselves a fair trade. However, if I drafted Kevin Minter, and after about 3 starts it became painfully obvious that he wasn't quick enough to play middle linebacker in the NFL, almost no team will even care. The only way you can screw up a "dangerous" pick is if the guy has serious substance abuse problems and it's a known problem. (For the record, I don't think Minter will fail. I think he's a very good pick and wouldn't be displeased if he were taken in the first.)

However, I'll one up all of that. I don't think Ogletree is maybe the best fit for the Vikings defense. Most folks think he's really a 3-4 backer, which is what he was in college. He's maybe not an ideal NFL-caliber inside linebacker. There are different attributes you look for between an ideal inside linebacker and an outside linebacker, even in Williams's Tampa-2. Te'o might be a better fit, even with his weird off-field issues (which are actually a lot less alarming than Ogletree's...repeat offenses are a little disturbing, but the guy might realize that his fun times ended up costing him millions on draft night). Arthur Brown might end up being the pick there, oddly enough. He's a little undersized, but he does the things that Alan Williams seems to want out of his linebackers and he's got the instincts that Brinkley didn't seem to have. Ogletree is unmistakably a gifted player, but maybe he's not the right player for the Vikings...and not because of his off-the-field issues. His reported weaknesses are ones that I wouldn't want to see out of a middle linebacker in a 4-3. He's all athlete, and sometimes doesn't break through blocks very well. His tackling form is kind of crummy too. Leading up to the Combine, I had seen Ogletree play and was impressed, but after his Combine numbers (which were very good, but didn't blow me away), I started having my doubts about the guy. I had a harder and harder time imagining him playing the middle in a 4-3...he very well may do so and do very well, but I have some doubts. You want a guy who is a sure tackler, with good instincts, that doesn't overpursue and can deal with offensive linemen that try and open gaps.

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