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Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:41 am
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote:This is innnnnnnnneteresting: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... RUE&gid=10

By Eric Stoner, NFL Draft Analyst for DraftBreakdown, Rotoworld and Bleacher Report

Well, that's really different...

This might be a draft where it's impossible to call anyone a reach because nobody has any idea where anybody should be ranked! :)

I'm exaggerating, of course, but it's pretty clear that opinions vary widely on a lot of these players.

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:48 am
by mondry
Mothman wrote:
Well, that's really different...

This might be a draft where it's impossible to call anyone a reach because nobody has any idea where anybody should be ranked! :)

I'm exaggerating, of course, but it's pretty clear that opinions vary widely on a lot of these players.
I think a lot of the talking head analysts rely heavily on elite prospects making their job easier, especially at the QB position. It's easy to predict Luck, Rg3, Kalil, Megatron, Newton, etc type picks and this draft has very few players like that. With all the other picks so close, especially past the "top 15" there should be a lot of "surprises" this year just because some team will see enough of a guy to like him a lot and they may see enough "flaws" in other players that might be rated higher, to not be so high on them.

It's been said this is a "scouts draft" as in, a scout's really gonna earn their pay check this year or perhaps be out of the job, no easy picks.

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:58 am
by Mothman
mondry wrote:I think a lot of the talking head analysts rely heavily on elite prospects making their job easier, especially at the QB position. It's easy to predict Luck, Rg3, Kalil, Megatron, Newton, etc type picks and this draft has very few players like that. With all the other picks so close, especially past the "top 15" there should be a lot of "surprises" this year just because some team will see enough of a guy to like him a lot and they may see enough "flaws" in other players that might be rated higher, to not be so high on them.

It's been said this is a "scouts draft" as in, a scout's really gonna earn their pay check this year or perhaps be out of the job, no easy picks.
Good post. I think you're right about the reliance on elite prospects to make mocking the draft easier.

I think this really will be a "scout's draft" and a draft where we see more than usual how many NFL teams really look for who fits their plans rather than just who is the most talented player available.

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:30 pm
by dead_poet
Final PFT mock has us taking DJ Hayden at 23 and trading our 25th to Jacksonville (who selects Geno Smith) for unknown compensation.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ock-draft/

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:46 pm
by dead_poet
Washington Times has Vikes picking Cooper at 23 and Hunter at 25.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... edictions/

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:08 pm
by VikingLord
dead_poet wrote:Washington Times has Vikes picking Cooper at 23 and Hunter at 25.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... edictions/
Cooper falling to #23? I haven't seen a mock showing that since, well, ever.

Be a complete shock if it were to happen, and Spielman would not be able to pass that up. That would be an outstanding pick at #23.

I like the Hunter pick too quite honestly. Gives the Vikings 2 instant starters on offense who should both really help both AD and Ponder next year.

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:47 pm
by dead_poet
Last time a guard went in top 10 was 1997, when Chris Naeole went to Saints at 10. A guard WILL go in top 10 tonight. Book it.
Adam Schefter on Twitter

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:06 pm
by S197
Rumor is Davone Bess is on the trading block for a late round pick. Linked to the Browns and Vikings. Trying to find confirmation but I think this would be a good trade for the Vikings' WCO.

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:21 pm
by dead_poet
Good news

E.J. Manuel - QB - Player

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Browns, Bills, and Jets have all expressed interest in trading up into the bottom portion of the first round.

Presumably, these three teams all value a quarterback in the draft, but they don't feel comfortable enough in taking one with their respective top-ten picks. Instead, they would like to wheel and deal to work themselves back into the first round ahead of the Jaguars at pick No. 33. There's a strong chance that all four of Geno Smith, E.J. Manuel, Matt Barkley, and Ryan Nassib are available in the 20-32 range.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:14 pm
by John_Viveiros
dead_poet wrote:Washington Times has Vikes picking Cooper at 23 and Hunter at 25.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... edictions/
Wet dream!

[Sorry if there are teenagers reading this]

Re: Draft in April

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:25 pm
by Eli
If there's a projected run on QBs in the late 1st or early 2nd round, it could help the Vikings picking at #52. It would just mean more CBs, LBs and WRs left to choose. And if it means that they could trade down and score another middle-round pick, it could be a giant win for them.