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Post by IIsweet » Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:40 pm

Did anyone see DE Jayson Oweh's pro day at Penn State ???
6'5" 257
Long arms at 34 1/2"
Ran 4.36 :shock:
39 1/2" vertical
11'2" broad jump
6.84 3cone drill

Compared to JPP !!!!
There are questions with him, but holy smokes !!!! Apparently it is a very very deep OL draft.
A trade down, acquiring a 2nd rd pick makes a ton of sense this year...
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Post by VikingLord » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:30 pm

This is his writeup on the Walterfootball site:

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021JOweh.php

A couple of highlights from that:
In the shortened 2020 season, however, Oweh collected zero sacks or forced fumbles while making 38 tackles. He entered the 2021 NFL Draft having made four sacks in his last 18 games,
For the NFL, Oweh's best fit could come as a 3-4 outside linebacker, although he also has the potential to be a 4-3 defensive end. In a 4-3, it could make sense to rotate him a fair amount because offensive tackles who have a 50-70-pound advantage could wear him out, so keeping him fresh as a pass rusher and available to make an impact in the fourth quarter would require rotating him.
Team sources believe Oweh could go late in the first round or early in the second round during the 2021 NFL Draft. They say his track record and tape are that of a second-day pick, but because he is a workout warrior, they think a team could fall in love from his pro day and ends up taking him late in Round 1 or early in Round 2.
So based on that, he has a lot of potential as a situational pass rusher or pass rush specialist who unfortunately didn't put up the sack numbers in college to show that he can indeed do that consistently.

I wouldn't say Oweh is a player to avoid, but I would avoid him at pick #14, and I wouldn't consider taking him at all in the first round for that matter. In the first round (and especially in the upper half of the first round) you want an every-down player regardless of whether that is on defense or offense. Oweh probably isn't going to be that as a pro unless you put him at OLB. He'd be more intriguing there given his speed and athleticism, but unfortunately he hasn't played that position so drafting him high and putting him in at OLB would be a big gamble too.

I agree with you on moving back in Round 1. That makes sense, just not if the end result of that move ends up being a semi-productive situational pass rusher.
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Post by S197 » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:47 pm

Can you imagine a 250lb guy running you down at 4.3 speed...
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Post by Maelstrom88 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:55 pm

Definitely a physical freak who could be scary if he has a good coach and wants to put in the work.
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Post by YikesVikes » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:10 pm

VikingLord wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:30 pm
This is his writeup on the Walterfootball site:

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021JOweh.php

A couple of highlights from that:
In the shortened 2020 season, however, Oweh collected zero sacks or forced fumbles while making 38 tackles. He entered the 2021 NFL Draft having made four sacks in his last 18 games,
For the NFL, Oweh's best fit could come as a 3-4 outside linebacker, although he also has the potential to be a 4-3 defensive end. In a 4-3, it could make sense to rotate him a fair amount because offensive tackles who have a 50-70-pound advantage could wear him out, so keeping him fresh as a pass rusher and available to make an impact in the fourth quarter would require rotating him.
Team sources believe Oweh could go late in the first round or early in the second round during the 2021 NFL Draft. They say his track record and tape are that of a second-day pick, but because he is a workout warrior, they think a team could fall in love from his pro day and ends up taking him late in Round 1 or early in Round 2.
So based on that, he has a lot of potential as a situational pass rusher or pass-rush specialist who unfortunately didn't put up the sack numbers in college to show that he can indeed do that consistently.

I wouldn't say Oweh is a player to avoid, but I would avoid him at pick #14, and I wouldn't consider taking him at all in the first round for that matter. In the first round (and especially in the upper half of the first round) you want an every-down player regardless of whether that is on defense or offense. Oweh probably isn't going to be that as a pro unless you put him at OLB. He'd be more intriguing there given his speed and athleticism, but unfortunately he hasn't played that position so drafting him high and putting him in at OLB would be a big gamble too.

I agree with you on moving back in Round 1. That makes sense, just not if the end result of that move ends up being a semi-productive situational pass rusher.
257 for a RDE isn't unusual. His weight surely doesn't equate to being rotational. His issue is that he is still raw as a prospect. He has explosive speed but it doesn't always equate to getting to the QB. The sack shortage isn't really that big of a deal. Also adding .15 on to all times would be a smart decision. I think he would run a 4.45 at the combine vs. pro day.
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