The thing is, it doesnt matter what other fanbases want or think. I can tell you right now, if Shanahan had the choice between Stafford or Cousins he'd take Cousins 10 times out of 10.StumpHunter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:32 pmYou would think the 9ers fans would be all over trading for Cousins, especially since they were wanting to give up a ton for Stafford before he went to the Rams and Cousins is arguably a better QB and fits Shannahan's system well.Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:43 amThe Lions are set up very well in about 3 years IF they draft well. They got a steal here and it speaks well of the new administration. The Rams gave up two firsts to get Goff and 2 firsts to get rid of Goff. He's a 4 first round pick QB Stafford is an upgrade but I'm not sure by how much. Their defense got gashed vs. GB so I'm not sold on them either. They may not be the best team in their division let alone the league and all those thin drafts will catch up with them. They are 33 million over the cap I believe, their LT is ancient, and I heard their LG is set to be a free agent.
Emphatic no's from every 9er board I have suggested it on. Guys who were pounding the table for Stafford don't even want to give up a 2nd for Cousins. Kind of embarrassing that we are going to pay 76 million over 2 years for a QB no other fanbase wants for 56 million over 2.
I agree with CV that anyone that thinks Stafford is some elite QB doesnt have a clue. Matt Stafford is the biggest loser in football in terms of career win/loss. What's everyone's response? "Well he was on the Lions his entire career".....okay? Stafford was also on some teams that were plenty good enough to make a run. The 2014 Lions had a top 3 defense in the NFL. He also had Calvin Johnson to throw to his entire career who is a future HOFer. Yeah the Lions had some really bad teams but let's not dismiss that they never had any good ones either. You could make the same argument for Cousins and say "well he was on the Redskins for a large portion of his career". And let's be honest, the Redskins never had a roster like the 2014 Lions did. Especially defensively. In the last few days the amount of tweets I've seen that said "Stafford is a winner" makes me wanna puke. He's literally the exact opposite of that. Yet the media has surrounded Cousins with so much hate which then trickles down into Vikings fans or just football fans in general...yet Matt Stafford gets all this praise, when he's started 61 more games than Cousins and has literally done much less than Cousins ever has.
I get that Cousins isnt some superstar. I get peoples frustrations with him at times. But this is exactly what annoys me about the Kirk Cousins argument in general. Like WHY does that man receive so much hate? Cousins looked like he was going to be a savior for Washington as RGIII continued to spiral out of control. Then when that disgustingly dysfunctional franchise continued to franchise tag him year after year like they "had a plan and knew something nobody else did", the media then went to find stats to cherry pick, tallied up his monday night record, tallied up his record vs. .500 and above teams, etc. Then he gets a big contract from the Vikings and is just suppose to take them to the SB because the year prior they were almost there and he didnt. Even though any football fan that just thinks that's how the NFL works is you just add one player and fill one hole and SB bound here we come is just an idiot.
And what was Washingtons master plan for not holding onto Kirk Cousins? Alex Smith? Dwayne Haskins? Case Keenum? Oh yeah....4 years later and they dont have jack shi* for a QB. They were just starting fricken Taylor Heinecke in a playoff game.
Bottom line is, the Vikings signed Cousins a year too late. We signed Cousins past the point of our peak along with an OC that was....just terrible in every facet. By the time our offense recovered from the Flip debacle, this defense was already on it's downhill slide. And here we are. Just 4 years ago we are the #1 defense in the NFL. And in 2021, that has practically flipped and we have a solid offense and a bad (more-so depleted) defense.
The Rams just completely mortgaged their future (literally) on the biggest loser in football (also literally). Giving up TWO first rounders and a 3rd. That can literally put a dagger in your football teams future. The Vikings simply paid Kirk Cousins and that contract (that everyone seems to continue to complain about) has yet to cost us any major players on this roster or prevented us from signing players in free agency. Nor did we lose any draft picks in the process. The Rams took a MUCH worse gamble on Stafford than we did on Cousins and in my opinion, it was for a lesser QB.