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Re: Justin Jefferson

Post by VikingPaul73 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:08 am

No doubt this was a Slam Dunk A+ trade for Spielman. JJ is comparable in his rookie season to Diggs in his prime, he is younger, cheaper, and has a much better attitude

My only comment of caution is, will JJ become a head case with fame and fortune. It’s easy to have a great attitude as a Rookie when you’re new to the league and haven’t proven yourself yet . But what about 4 or 5 years from now when he is a proven star and has a fat contract ??? Will he still be happy in a run first offense ? Or will he start to demand the ball too???

Don’t get me wrong I’m not predicting this or anything - JJ appears to have a great attitude and he seems very genuine. I’m just cautioning that $$$ and fame often bring out the worst in people
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Re: Justin Jefferson

Post by 808vikingsfan » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 am

J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:03 am
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Ehhh, I'd be careful what you say. On Monday night vs the Bears, Justin Jefferson had 5 targets, 5 catches and 104 yards....on THIRD down alone
And ... 29 of his 42 receptions have gone for first downs. I realize that's not a 3rd-down stat, but it tells you he's not just picking up garbage catches.

PHP has brought this up many times, and it bears repeating. We need to remember that Justin Jefferson was not a starter for the first two games of the season. Yet he's got 762 yards receiving. As for being fed, Stefon Diggs pissed and moaned all last year when he got 94 targets, which by my math is almost exactly the same per-game rate that JJ is receiving this year. Meanwhile Jefferson has had 5 or fewer targets in 6 of the Vikings' 9 games, yet hasn't said a word about getting the ball.

I can't find anything not to like about this kid, or this trade. I mean, he's playing and acting like a veteran. This trade was a huge win for us. If Buffalo fans see it as a win for them ... well, good for Buffalo fans.
I stand by what I said. I'd trust Diggs over JJ in critical situations. I love JJ's hands and size, but 4 really good games in his career is not enough for me to ignore Digg's body of work. DIggs does it all. Possession, deep, over the middle. I would love for JJ to make me forget about Diggs. If JJ has a Moss type game vs Dallas, maybe I'll jump on the bandwagon. But for now, it's too early, for me anyway.

and TBH, I wouldn't care if JJ starts asking for the ball if he keeps getting open and Cousin's stops feeding him. Maybe not his rookie year, but when he gets established. If he's competitive, he will speak up. If you remember, it was Thielen that threw Cousins under the bus in 2019.
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Re: Justin Jefferson

Post by Pondering Her Percy » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:15 pm

808vikingsfan wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 am
J. Kapp 11 wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:03 am

And ... 29 of his 42 receptions have gone for first downs. I realize that's not a 3rd-down stat, but it tells you he's not just picking up garbage catches.

PHP has brought this up many times, and it bears repeating. We need to remember that Justin Jefferson was not a starter for the first two games of the season. Yet he's got 762 yards receiving. As for being fed, Stefon Diggs pissed and moaned all last year when he got 94 targets, which by my math is almost exactly the same per-game rate that JJ is receiving this year. Meanwhile Jefferson has had 5 or fewer targets in 6 of the Vikings' 9 games, yet hasn't said a word about getting the ball.

I can't find anything not to like about this kid, or this trade. I mean, he's playing and acting like a veteran. This trade was a huge win for us. If Buffalo fans see it as a win for them ... well, good for Buffalo fans.
I stand by what I said. I'd trust Diggs over JJ in critical situations. I love JJ's hands and size, but 4 really good games in his career is not enough for me to ignore Digg's body of work. DIggs does it all. Possession, deep, over the middle. I would love for JJ to make me forget about Diggs. If JJ has a Moss type game vs Dallas, maybe I'll jump on the bandwagon. But for now, it's too early, for me anyway.

and TBH, I wouldn't care if JJ starts asking for the ball if he keeps getting open and Cousin's stops feeding him. Maybe not his rookie year, but when he gets established. If he's competitive, he will speak up. If you remember, it was Thielen that threw Cousins under the bus in 2019.
Thielen also didnt cry his way out of town. Diggs on the other hand...did. Thielen looks like he gets along just fine with Cousins. You can also tell they are on the same page.

As for Jefferson, they showed the stat tonight....since week 3, Jefferson has the most yards in the NFL of any WR. And he's a "#2" on this team and a rookie and he's outperforming Diggs who is a #1 in Buffalo and gets a million targets a game. Jefferson is currently on pace to have a better year than Diggs has ever had as a Vikings. There is nothing "early" about it, Justin Jefferson has shown he's just as good or better than Diggs very quickly. And Jefferson hasnt even hit his prime. Diggs has about 3 years of relevance left.
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Re: Justin Jefferson

Post by RandyMoss84 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:52 pm

Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:15 pm
808vikingsfan wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:08 am


I stand by what I said. I'd trust Diggs over JJ in critical situations. I love JJ's hands and size, but 4 really good games in his career is not enough for me to ignore Digg's body of work. DIggs does it all. Possession, deep, over the middle. I would love for JJ to make me forget about Diggs. If JJ has a Moss type game vs Dallas, maybe I'll jump on the bandwagon. But for now, it's too early, for me anyway.

and TBH, I wouldn't care if JJ starts asking for the ball if he keeps getting open and Cousin's stops feeding him. Maybe not his rookie year, but when he gets established. If he's competitive, he will speak up. If you remember, it was Thielen that threw Cousins under the bus in 2019.
Thielen also didnt cry his way out of town. Diggs on the other hand...did. Thielen looks like he gets along just fine with Cousins. You can also tell they are on the same page.

As for Jefferson, they showed the stat tonight....since week 3, Jefferson has the most yards in the NFL of any WR. And he's a "#2" on this team and a rookie and he's outperforming Diggs who is a #1 in Buffalo and gets a million targets a game. Jefferson is currently on pace to have a better year than Diggs has ever had as a Vikings. There is nothing "early" about it, Justin Jefferson has shown he's just as good or better than Diggs very quickly. And Jefferson hasnt even hit his prime. Diggs has about 3 years of relevance left.
Damn Jefferson dropped that 3rd down pass that would have went for a first down but that is okay, he is forgiven, he played well overall
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Re: Justin Jefferson

Post by chicagopurple » Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:48 am

Diggs is a far smarter player.....He bailed on the current joke in Minny! JJ wont be far behind unless Ziggy gets rid of Zim/Spielman. What Top Tier player would waste their career in this mess?
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Re: Justin Jefferson

Post by Pondering Her Percy » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:16 am

chicagopurple wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:48 am
Diggs is a far smarter player.....He bailed on the current joke in Minny! JJ wont be far behind unless Ziggy gets rid of Zim/Spielman. What Top Tier player would waste their career in this mess?
A far smarter player huh? The same guy that chucked his helmet vs. GB a few years ago and it ended up costing us? Or the same guy that's currently in Buffalo and walked his way back to the line of scrimmage vs because he was whining because #1 (and most important to him) he didnt have the gaudy numbers and targets that night and #2, they were losing?? That guy? Yeah, sure sounds like the smarter player. He's even throwing a bitc# fit in Buffalo when he doesnt get his way.
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Re: Justin Jefferson

Post by chicagopurple » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:44 am

Its such a stereotype...yet seems to be a true one....that WRs are always the team Prima Dona's.
So many of the great WRs are high maintenance little flowers.....its an odd phenomenon for sure.
I can think of a few really tough great WRs that were work horses with a great attitude, but they mostly go back to the old days.
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