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Post by RandyMoss84 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:49 pm

Why do we always run on 3rd and long? It usually never works :wallbang:
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Post by RandyMoss84 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:53 pm

Great defense!!!
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Post by RandyMoss84 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:12 pm

It is unbelievable that Vikings pulled out wins at Lambeau and Solider Field which is very tough stadiums to win in, I am very proud of our Vikings today and congratulations to Cousins on his first Monday Night win! :smilevike:
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Post by Maelstrom88 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:21 pm

Very nice road win. Cousins, Jefferson, the pass blocking, and defense deserve praise tonight. Special teams... not so much. Zimmer still has this team playing hard. That's to his credit. Skol :beerock:
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Post by RandyMoss84 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:27 pm

Maelstrom88 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:21 pm
Very nice road win. Cousins, Jefferson, the pass blocking, and defense deserve praise tonight. Special teams... not so much. Zimmer still has tgis team playing hard. That's to his credit. Skol :beerock:
I have been very impressed with the defense in the 2nd half, Bears only got what 84 total yards in the 2nd half?
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Post by Maelstrom88 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:32 pm

RandyMoss84 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:27 pm
Maelstrom88 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:21 pm
Very nice road win. Cousins, Jefferson, the pass blocking, and defense deserve praise tonight. Special teams... not so much. Zimmer still has tgis team playing hard. That's to his credit. Skol :beerock:
I have been very impressed with the defense in the 2nd half, Bears only got what 84 total yards in the 2nd half?
Always impressive when you outperform your opponent that much in the second half.
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Re: Vikings-Bears Game Day

Post by 808vikingsfan » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:09 am

RandyMoss84 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:12 pm
It is unbelievable that Vikings pulled out wins at Lambeau and Solider Field which is very tough stadiums to win in, I am very proud of our Vikings today and congratulations to Cousins on his first Monday Night win! :smilevike:
I don't know about anybody else, but I don't give any weight for these so called "road" wins. What's so hard about being on the road, in empty hotels, in empty stadiums? There is no home field advantage this year.
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Post by RandyMoss84 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:12 am

I just checked, Bears only had 14 yards in the 2nd half!
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Post by RandyMoss84 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:13 am

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Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:09 am
RandyMoss84 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:12 pm
It is unbelievable that Vikings pulled out wins at Lambeau and Solider Field which is very tough stadiums to win in, I am very proud of our Vikings today and congratulations to Cousins on his first Monday Night win! :smilevike:
I don't know about anybody else, but I don't give any weight for these so called "road" wins. What's so hard about being on the road, in empty hotels, in empty stadiums? There is no home field advantage this year.
It does not matter, a win is a win so enjoy it!
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Post by VikingPaul73 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:17 am

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Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:08 pm

With Drew Brees legitimately hurt (broken ribs, nearly collapsed lung), yeah, I can see New Orleans completely falling apart this season.
We will see. Remember they went 5-0 with Teddy last year. I'm not predicting that with Winston, but I'd be shocked if they don't at least go 3-4 the rest of the way and get to 10 wins (they are currently 7-2)
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Post by Maelstrom88 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:42 am

RandyMoss84 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:12 am
I just checked, Bears only had 14 yards in the 2nd half!
Crazy. Looking like we keep Zimmer after all.
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Post by chicagopurple » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:16 am

Dont drown on the Purple Kool Aid folks, The Bears are a horrible team. No OL, no QB, and a ravaged secondary.
Cousins looked better then his usual self.
The OL struggled to establish any run game until the Bears lost their star defender.
Too many stupid penalties that would have cost us the game against an even mediocre opponent.
Special Team play was inexcusable.
Why waste a full minute of game time at end of first half in a close game? Lame coaching decision there.
We are likely good enough to beat the next 3 BAD teams on our schedule.....then lose to the quality teams later in season....thus assuring that Spielman doesnt get any high draft picks which is not important since he wouldnt make smart picks anyway.
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Post by J. Kapp 11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:20 am

Rhodes Closed wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:08 pm
With Drew Brees legitimately hurt (broken ribs, nearly collapsed lung), yeah, I can see New Orleans completely falling apart this season.
I could see them falling off, as well.

Somebody on NFL Radio said it well this morning. A quarterback's personality off the field is usually a predictor of what kind of player he'll be on the field. If he's organized, calculating, a solid citizen off the field, he'll probably be detail-oriented in his preparation and methodical in his play. If he's wild and unpredictable off the field, he'll probably be a gunslinger on the field who relies less on preparation and more on talent.

Then the guy said, "I've been around Jameis Winston since high school. He is the latter."

It's a good point. Winston is a wild card off the field, and an even wilder card on the field. Yes, this is New Orleans, with the great and god-like offensive guru Sean Payton as his coach. And yes, Teddy Bridgewater thrived under Payton last year. But look at who Teddy is. Very mature, very detail-oriented, very smart ... exactly the same as Drew Brees from a personality standpoint. So he flourished in Payton's system. Do we really think Jameis Winston, given his history, is going to be THAT? I don't. I think they're in for some rough times with Winston.

And if they go with Taysom Hill at QB, that's fine by me. I think he's great as a gadget player, a change-up. But is he an NFL starting quarterback? I think if he were, they wouldn't have signed Bridgewater last year, and they wouldn't have signed a guy with 30 picks and 10 other turnover-worthy throws this year. Hill is a running quarterback who is just good enough at throwing the football that you have to play him honest. But if he's in there every down, his throwing inadequacies will get exposed.

If we keep playing solid football on offense and get our special teams in order, I believe we'll beat the Saints.
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Re: Vikings-Bears Game Day

Post by VikingLord » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:47 pm

I'm a little late to this thread but I wanted to throw in my observations of last night's game.

- Bears front 7 gave the Vikings OL all it could handle. Cook tried inside, outside, and sometimes both and the running lanes closed down quickly for the most part. Still, I wasn't looking for the Vikings OL to push the Bears DL around as much as I was looking to see if they could give as much as they got, and for the most part I did see that. Even in pass protection I thought the OL did a solid job. Cousins had some time and as a result was able to find his receivers to keep drives going. Vikings had some costly holding calls, although I disagreed with at least 2 of them. The only one I agreed with was the one on Dozier where Cousins took off for what was a 1st down. The other two were borderline, but the Bears got the calls.

- Cousins continues to show that if he has the threat of a running game and can work off the play action, plus he gets decent pass protection, he can make the reads and the plays necessary to win games. He made some nice throws. That first TD pass to Thielen was money. I don't blame him for the INT. He made a nice read and the throw was on, but it popped out of Thielen's hands for some reason.

- Cook is one tough runner. He didn't get much room to roam, but he consistently banged defenders around and got a lot of tough yards after contact. It was interesting to see the Bears jawing at him late in the game. Instead of jawing back, he should have just pointed at the scoreboard. I was worried when the family jewels got roughed up on that one run, but thankfully not a serious injury.

- Lastly, but not leastly, Justin Jefferson. Yes, Thielen pulled in the two TDs, but Jefferson was punishing. The scary thing about Jefferson is he's going to get even better. The guy has an excellent work ethic and wants to be one of the best. I could see him eclipsing Moss's rookie Vikings record of 4 100 yard games by a few games yet this year.

- Defense was solid, but it's hard to evaluate them given how bad the Bear offense is. The Bears don't have a legit RB. Patterson is decent, but he's just not really a RB. Still, I thought the Vikings played solid football in the front 7 all night. They played in the Bear backfield a lot and controlled the flow up front, plus got consistent pressure both from their down lineman as well as from various blitzers coming from a variety of angles. They didn't allow Foles to get comfortable.

- I thought the secondary played pretty well. Smith should have had 2 INTs. I'm still waiting to see the DBs anticipate a little better and get their hands on more passes, but the tackling was good and the effort was superb. Still, with all of that if Foles threw a slightly better ball late we'd all probably be wondering how the Vikings lost another game late by a single point. The secondary still has a ways to go before anybody can take this team as a serious playoff contender.

- As shaky as the secondary can still be at times, it's not the Achilles Heel of the 2020 Vikings. No, that designation goes to the special teams. Kickoff returned for TD against? Check. Muffed extra point try? Check. Allowing big punt return near end of a close game? Check. On the bright side, the offense looked horrific to start the year and has turned it around. The defense looked horrific to start the year and they're in the process of turning it around. So there is hope that the special teams can yet turn it around and at the very least not be horrific.

In sum, the Bears are a really bad offensive team with a solid, if unspectacular, defense. It was a Monday night road game, though, at a place where the Vikings normally struggle and they got the win. They look like a team that has grown considerably throughout the year and is on the right track, however, so I'm far more optimistic about their future than I was at the bye.

I'm not going to predict playoffs or winning streaks just yet, however, because I'm still not sold on them. I want to see that they don't put in another Atlanta-like performance now that they've got some wind in their sails and might be tempted to sit back and relax a bit on the back of their recent success. I no longer think they are a 5-win team. I now think they have a good chance to be an 8 or even 9 win team, but if they keep improving and keep turning in consistent performances, I'll up that further.
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Re: Vikings-Bears Game Day

Post by Frozen Rope » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:57 pm

VikingLord wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:47 pm
I'm a little late to this thread but I wanted to throw in my observations of last night's game.

- Bears front 7 gave the Vikings OL all it could handle. Cook tried inside, outside, and sometimes both and the running lanes closed down quickly for the most part. Still, I wasn't looking for the Vikings OL to push the Bears DL around as much as I was looking to see if they could give as much as they got, and for the most part I did see that. Even in pass protection I thought the OL did a solid job. Cousins had some time and as a result was able to find his receivers to keep drives going. Vikings had some costly holding calls, although I disagreed with at least 2 of them. The only one I agreed with was the one on Dozier where Cousins took off for what was a 1st down. The other two were borderline, but the Bears got the calls.

- Cousins continues to show that if he has the threat of a running game and can work off the play action, plus he gets decent pass protection, he can make the reads and the plays necessary to win games. He made some nice throws. That first TD pass to Thielen was money. I don't blame him for the INT. He made a nice read and the throw was on, but it popped out of Thielen's hands for some reason.

- Cook is one tough runner. He didn't get much room to roam, but he consistently banged defenders around and got a lot of tough yards after contact. It was interesting to see the Bears jawing at him late in the game. Instead of jawing back, he should have just pointed at the scoreboard. I was worried when the family jewels got roughed up on that one run, but thankfully not a serious injury.

- Lastly, but not leastly, Justin Jefferson. Yes, Thielen pulled in the two TDs, but Jefferson was punishing. The scary thing about Jefferson is he's going to get even better. The guy has an excellent work ethic and wants to be one of the best. I could see him eclipsing Moss's rookie Vikings record of 4 100 yard games by a few games yet this year.

- Defense was solid, but it's hard to evaluate them given how bad the Bear offense is. The Bears don't have a legit RB. Patterson is decent, but he's just not really a RB. Still, I thought the Vikings played solid football in the front 7 all night. They played in the Bear backfield a lot and controlled the flow up front, plus got consistent pressure both from their down lineman as well as from various blitzers coming from a variety of angles. They didn't allow Foles to get comfortable.

- I thought the secondary played pretty well. Smith should have had 2 INTs. I'm still waiting to see the DBs anticipate a little better and get their hands on more passes, but the tackling was good and the effort was superb. Still, with all of that if Foles threw a slightly better ball late we'd all probably be wondering how the Vikings lost another game late by a single point. The secondary still has a ways to go before anybody can take this team as a serious playoff contender.

- As shaky as the secondary can still be at times, it's not the Achilles Heel of the 2020 Vikings. No, that designation goes to the special teams. Kickoff returned for TD against? Check. Muffed extra point try? Check. Allowing big punt return near end of a close game? Check. On the bright side, the offense looked horrific to start the year and has turned it around. The defense looked horrific to start the year and they're in the process of turning it around. So there is hope that the special teams can yet turn it around and at the very least not be horrific.

In sum, the Bears are a really bad offensive team with a solid, if unspectacular, defense. It was a Monday night road game, though, at a place where the Vikings normally struggle and they got the win. They look like a team that has grown considerably throughout the year and is on the right track, however, so I'm far more optimistic about their future than I was at the bye.

I'm not going to predict playoffs or winning streaks just yet, however, because I'm still not sold on them. I want to see that they don't put in another Atlanta-like performance now that they've got some wind in their sails and might be tempted to sit back and relax a bit on the back of their recent success. I no longer think they are a 5-win team. I now think they have a good chance to be an 8 or even 9 win team, but if they keep improving and keep turning in consistent performances, I'll up that further.
Good summary VL
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