I know that "sounds good" as an explanation for the lack of QB's drafted in Rick's tenure, but I am not going to believe that you believe, deep down (to paraphrase) that "Rick simply ignores contingency plans at the position".S197 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:28 pmI fail to believe it was some sort of coincidence we saw no value at the QB position over the last decade. The more logical conclusion is his strategy is to simply ignore or discount any sort of potential or contingency plan drafting strategy at the position. Despite our tremendous lack of continuity at QB.
I don't think there is a GM at any level of football that feels that way. As well, GM's do not work in a vacuum so you are saying by association that the majority of "speaking" members of our draft process feel the same way.
I don't see it that way.
VL about nailed it IMO, in that we've had historically between pick #18 on down in the 1st round in the past several years, maybe in Rick's tenure. Didn't we move up for Ponder? Anyways IMO it's VERY difficult to get your "franchise QB" playing those cards. I really think it's that simple. Low-first-round teams like the Pats have taken plenty of swings at it over the past 10 years.
Now if you want to make the argument that we should have jumped on someone after the first round to get a better backup than a Mannion type, I'm pretty sure our staff has done all kinds of analysis on the success of that approach in getting an above-average QB, even for a backup role. It's just not that probable that the earlier pick you do it the better, not that it's impossible. I would guess they also figure, somewhat correctly, that the rules have changed the past few years and that starting QB's get hurt less often nowadays. So having Mannion vs. Hurts sitting the bench probably does not make a huge difference to our staff.
So I see it as "Rick" playing the odds over the years. It's frustrating, sure, but if we keep picking 25th in the first we are going to have to make a heckuva move to get into the top 5 any given year. Is our staff and ownership gunshy about ever doing that? Probably. I'd love a long-term solution at the QB position, but I am OK admitting we are playing the cards we've been dealt, for the most part.
And holy cow the way folks are talking about Stanley in this thread you'd think he uses a walker when he plays. Mobility may not be a huge part of his game but c'mon, he could probably learn to move as much as say Rothlisberger has over the years (not that he has Ben's talent).